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Kaimana 07-06-2002 06:24 PM

Souled Out , you amaze me. That is very good. and yes that is very possible. In regards to the hibernation we see the same thing in insects manly because they have a Exoskeleton, but that does not prevent them from freezing to death so in return they freeze themselve into a state of suspended animation. and now you mention a fish doing something very similar. that is very impressive.in regards to the cloning just because a creature is frozen in stead of being in a sanitation secrement it does not mean that DNA is wasted. so yes the Vykkers can still use the bodies for cloning. however there is a time period in wich the DNA if not kept cold and safe can be lost

BTW Souled Out you just might make a name for yourself dont you think guys. very Good.

Xavier 07-06-2002 06:30 PM

to clone you need more than DNA I think.
no? it would be a bit to simple to regenerate a race only with only DNA

Kaimana 07-06-2002 06:35 PM

Oh im sorry i should have been more specific. While cloning you will need these things 1) DNA 2) a host to implant DNA into to produce specimen. the host usually has a similar leniege to the specimen3) and of course you need to fill in the DNA code. to do this you need to take a code from another specie. the reason why you fill in the gaps is because the code is lost over time.

so usually whatever you do the clone will have some sort of mutation in the DNA because the gaps had to be filled. This is only if much time has past.

Danny 07-06-2002 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by ODDBODD
i wonder how high a meech is
Depends on what it's been taking...

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Originally posted by souled out
currently there is one type of fish (in iceland??) that is the size of a quarter in length. it produces an oil naturally that prevents ice crystals from forming. it is coated in this secretin and can sucessfully be frozen and unfrozen as many times as you want and as long as you want (within the lifespan of a fish). this is an "induced hybernation" as opposed to cryogenic freezing. this is an "induced hybernation" as opposed to cryogenic freezing. this would mean that they could preserve the animals fora little while in ice but what would the point be. we dont use the oil for much because of how little you could get. one quart would take a couple thousand fish and who would harvest them all. currently there are not other types of fish that can be "adapted" to secrete this oil. ice would be a be a way to preserve the dead flesh but live animals is a much more painstaking task. and water is cheaper than formaldahyde i believe.
"One type of fish" "not other types of fish"? In fact, almost all amphibians that hibernate also possess this natural antifreeze in their blood. Biochemists are currently working on a way to introduce this into humans, so that we can be successfully cryogenically frozen. It is quite feasible that Vykkers have successfully done this.

Abe the legend 07-07-2002 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
Hmph.

Back to the topic,

I think there are Meeches somewhere on Oddworld. If there wasn't any left, there would be no need to introduce them in AO.


I think there was a point to introduce them as it shows how evil RuptureFarms was:fuzvamp: :fuzcool: .

I also think there are some meeches left hiding where no industrious person would go(then again sligs just break in any holy land eg monsaic lines).:fuzgrin:

Xavier 07-07-2002 08:15 AM

well yeah it make sence.
just to show what the industrie had done: killing a whole race of creatures

Wil 07-07-2002 08:27 AM

I'm sure if there are Meeches left, there would be not only no industrial forces around but no native Mudokons or anything, becuase they seem to think Meeches are extinct as well.

Which makes we wonder if it would make a good aditional story-ette to have the Meech Weirdo in Abe's Exoddus be upset that there are no Meeches left. I think not, but it could have been interesting at least.

Xavier 07-07-2002 08:39 AM

the only thing I can say is that 1 of the 3 weirdos allways look a bid bad maybe that's why

Wil 07-07-2002 10:23 AM

The one that's slumped on the ground, cross-legged? True, but I figure that one the be the Paramite-guy.

Xavier 07-07-2002 10:30 AM

bigger image:

http://www.oddworld-fr.com/banque_images/0167.jpg

so the guy sitting is the paramite one
I think it's the meeche one

Wil 07-07-2002 10:36 AM

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so the guy sitting is the paramite one
Like I explained in The Oddworld Quiz topic, nothing's concrete. It's only what I've been able to make out from their head dresses. Spines for Meeches, tusks for Scrabs and facial fingers for Paramites.

BTW, nice pic.

Xavier 07-07-2002 10:51 AM

I think the 2 who stand are the Scarb and Paramite
but yeah nothing is sure.

BTW: thanx, I got a poster of it in my room

scrabinator 07-07-2002 11:22 AM

I think that I remember reading (but I might not have) that some meech's may still exist in some underground caves in Necrum.:fuzconf:

Xavier 07-07-2002 11:29 AM

well in each non visited place there can be still left some meeches, no one knows.

In fact I don't want to see meeches again in the quintology, but I want to see them in a other oddworld game

dark_xinos 07-07-2002 11:44 AM

On your pic Xavier. What is that critter that looks like a seehorse with legs?

Yeah, I think Meeches exist. That would explain why the rummors of squeek are existing. I think Meeches are water animals. From judging by the picture of the Meech, in the beginning of AO, there head look like a hammer shark. And there pink to. Bright colors (example, pink) is a warning to other animals saying that there poisonous. So they might be a poisonous sharklike critter.
But in that case Squeek probebly wont be a meech, sence Munch is already a water critter. But still, five heros means some's bound to be the same.

Edit: No whait. He dosent look like he can swim.

scrabinator 07-07-2002 11:53 AM

I think that Squeek will be a completely new creature that we've never seen(or a kinto slave).:fuzwink:

Danny 07-07-2002 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by dark_xinos
Yeah, I think Meeches exist. That would explain why the rummors of squeek are existing. I think Meeches are water animals. From judging by the picture of the Meech, in the beginning of AO, there head look like a hammer shark. And there pink to. Bright colors (example, pink) is a warning to other animals saying that there poisonous. So they might be a poisonous sharklike critter.
Have you seen the proper production pic, or are you just talking about the Meech Munchies poster? I assume you haven't seen the proper picture, as it doesn't look in the least bit aquatic or brightly coloured...

Besides, you can't use the advertisement posters to judge appearences - the Scrab one is bright green, for odd's sake...

Xavier 07-07-2002 04:52 PM

that thing in water?
no no no

http://www.oddworldian.net/creatures/meech01.jpg
here is the pic Danny talked about

molluck2 07-08-2002 06:20 AM

yoopy i am back!
people in case you've didn't notice i've made a poll here,so please vote!o.k?:fuzemb:
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Xavier 07-08-2002 06:31 AM

you have allready 15 votes, that's pretty much for a poll in the general discution.

molluck2 07-08-2002 06:37 AM

then that's o.k.
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Wolfpac 07-08-2002 07:47 AM

Well I'm the Dope who vote "No"
Why because the Meech was only put in to show how bad the Gluckons/Vykkers are. By causing a creature to go extinct it show us how ruthless they really are. Meeches are only scapegoats. Look the killed Gluckons to only one; what makes you think they would miss Meeches. So face it people Meeches are dead, so deal with it.

molluck2 07-08-2002 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Wolfpac
Well I'm the Dope who vote "No"
Why because the Meech was only put in to show how bad the Gluckons/Vykkers are.

that maybe,but still!there are meeches on the other continents and there are some meeches on mudos(maybe they're just hiding in those places where no one will look for them,or something like that!)
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