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morphius 04-20-2002 12:18 AM

What is there to say the world has problems and not all of them can be solved, and priorities are imoprtant, sometimes it takes a revolution.....Sometimes the path is hard..............

Danny 04-20-2002 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by morphius
What is there to say the world has problems and not all of them can be solved,
But why bother mentioning them here?

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priorities are imoprtant,
Not here, they're not, because we have only two options: Sign or Don't Sign. You haven't suggested anything better to do, so shut up.

Surfacing 04-20-2002 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by Danny
Ooo, can I have a go?
[list=1][*]Warped sense of priorities[*]Slipknot[*]Homophobia[*]Selfishness[*]Belief that there is something wrong with being Sensitive[*]A really annoying Avatar[/list=1]

You asked for it... ;)

The only 2 you got right were, homophbic, and slipknot, as for everything else there just your opinions, And being Homophobic and listening to slipknot are not problems.

morphius 04-20-2002 12:28 AM

You said there were more important things too.

Danny 04-20-2002 12:35 AM

You did say that you would never help a stranger who was in trouble. And you took the term "sensitive" as an offense... :S
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Originally posted by Surfacing
Being Homophobic and listening to slipknot are not problems.
They've already reached Epidemic proportions...

Statikk HDM 04-20-2002 12:42 AM

Whaling is good. It creates jobs. It sounds fun. Whale probably tastes excellant. Other nations just skirt around zone restrictions. Let's make it totally legal. Hey, if everyone else gets in on this lucrative action, everyone should have a crack at it. Whales are espendable and not important to a lot of people. Ever see this on someones resume: I petioned for the sake of whales? No one will brother anyway. In congress I guarantee if this was brought up, their would be 5 dewy eyed save everything people and everyone else would think" Whaling+campaign donations+Reelection. Slaughter the whales!" and shoot it down like a wounded duck. And what would happen to the precious, precious ecosystem if the blue larded tippycanoe whale became extinct? Jack squat, thats what. 99 percent of all species are gone, who says whales matter?

Surfacing 04-20-2002 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by Danny
You did say that you would never help a stranger who was in trouble. And you took the term "sensitive" as an offense... :SThey've already reached Epidemic proportions...

You just miss understood me on the sensitive topic. And so what if i did'nt want to help a complete stranger, just cause you would and i would'nt does not make me bad. And yes slipknot are Epidemic, unlike most of the stuff you listen to.

Disgruntled Intern 04-20-2002 12:53 AM

hmmm wouldn't it be nice if we could put certain forum members on Ignore?
*glares at Statikk*

Statikk HDM 04-20-2002 01:59 AM

What? You like whales, I don't. And Greenpeace is a crappy organization that uses dirty tactics and is involved with ecoterrorism. ALF and ELF anyone? Same with PETA.

Danny 04-20-2002 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Statikk HDM
Whaling is good. It creates jobs. It sounds fun. Whale probably tastes excellant. Other nations just skirt around zone restrictions. Let's make it totally legal. Hey, if everyone else gets in on this lucrative action, everyone should have a crack at it. Whales are espendable and not important to a lot of people. Ever see this on someones resume: I petioned for the sake of whales? No one will brother anyway. In congress I guarantee if this was brought up, their would be 5 dewy eyed save everything people and everyone else would think" Whaling+campaign donations+Reelection. Slaughter the whales!" and shoot it down like a wounded duck. And what would happen to the precious, precious ecosystem if the blue larded tippycanoe whale became extinct? Jack squat, thats what. 99 percent of all species are gone, who says whales matter?
Moron. Saying stupid things about sensitive topics doesn't make you interesting, you know...

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Originally posted by Surfacing
You just miss understood me on the sensitive topic. And so what if i did'nt want to help a complete stranger, just cause you would and i would'nt does not make me bad. And yes slipknot are Epidemic, unlike most of the stuff you listen to.
That's because I listen to what's good, not what's popular, but that's for a different argument, so let's not get sidetracked.

Surfacing 04-20-2002 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Danny
Moron. Saying stupid things about sensitive topics doesn't make you interesting, you know...(1)

That's because I listen to what's good, not what's popular, but that's for a different argument, so let's not get sidetracked.(2)


1) I never said i did


2)I don't judge bands by popularity, I listen to From Zero for Christ sakes!.

Danny 04-20-2002 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
1) I never said i did
Look at who I was quoting. I was talking to Statikk, not you.

Statikk HDM 04-20-2002 03:10 PM

Gee, thanks for calling me a moron. I see why everyone wants you to be a moderator or master of the world or whatever. It is because you are temperate. If you don't have anything to say except quote me and call me a moron, why are you posting here. Tell me why I should give a shit about the "majestic" whale.

Danny 04-20-2002 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Statikk HDM
Gee, thanks for calling me a moron. I see why everyone wants you to be a moderator or master of the world or whatever. It is because you are temperate.
They want me to be Mod because I'm just all-round great... :D

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If you don't have anything to say except quote me and call me a moron, why are you posting here.
It needed to be said.

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Tell my why I should give a shit about the "majestic" whale.
Why do you try so hard to be controversial? You should give a shit about the whale because they've never done anything to people, and yet people have driven them almost to extinction. It's about time Humans stopped wiping other species off the planet and grew up a little as a society. Starting with you.

Statikk HDM 04-20-2002 07:58 PM

Yeah. Whales never did anything for me but they never did anything TO me. Besides,if everyone hunted them now before the populations were stable their would be no whales, or money creating whaling businesses. I wonder how many whales are left now? I'm guessing not enough to start a competitive business.

Sl'askia 04-20-2002 08:19 PM

Whales are an importent part of the food chain, they are at/near the top of it. If they all go extinct, there will be a population explosion of the food they eat (ie plankton, small fish, etc), which would lead to them consuming all the of their food sources and then the whole chain collapses.
On a related subject and it serves as a good example, in an older topic someone said they were having a major deer problem in their area. Now...wolves and a couple of other preditors normally keep the deer population in check. But guess what? Humans drove out/killed all the deers natural preditors and the deers population exploded.
Due to their ignorence, humans now have to cull the deer to keep them from 'eating' them out of house and home themselves. If they hadn't gotten rid of the preditors to begin with...they wouldn't have to!
Same thing will happen if the whales go extinct....
And remember...whales reproduce at a much slower rate then fish, lobster and other aquatic life. (same with Sharks BTW) They can't recover their numbers as fast...

Sydney 04-20-2002 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Statikk HDM
Yeah. Whales never did anything for me but they never did anything TO me.
You seem to value something on whether or not it has done anything for you. I've said this before, but that's selfish. These whales are just as much of a living being as you are. They have a brain like us, they think, experience emotions, etc. Might does not equal Right. Simply because we can exploit them is no reason to exploit them, unless you're a pleasure-seeking, heartless opportunist.

CNN.com posted an article today on whales, it covers the number of whales killed by collisions with ships:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/04/20/wha....ap/index.html

Surfacing 04-21-2002 12:14 AM

Statick, we know you hate whales, so stop ruining this for people who care about things other than them selfves. There is no point in arguing with us it's not like you can make us hate whales as well and it's not like we can make you like them, so stop.

Jacob 04-21-2002 12:41 AM

Stat...your the breed of guy that makes me look at guys in general and think 'Ugh...how vile.' Your probably never going to get married with a attitude like that (Unless you marry some...like...ugly, country bumpkin called 'Ursela'). Although i don't like Greenpeace cos it reminds me of that hippy...Swampy. Who was so very vile. I dont like hippies...they dont shave and they look awful...also, they are too fussy.

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Gee, thanks for calling me a moron
Im sure if you shared your opinions with your 'friends' (If you have any.) that'd they'd grace you with the words 'Moron' and 'Dick' also. Also...aint you, like a bible basher? And if so...doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that you shouldn't treat animals wrongy or something...i dont know alot since i have a life...but still. Also, i dont understand why hunters just dont go and hunt humans? I dont mean like a brutal thing. But like something America would do. Like, for a execution. And they'd say "If you can get to here...without been killed, we will let you free." And then they let the convict go in a deserted woodland, to get to a certain point. While Hunters hunted them. Humans would serve a good challenge. Also, it could be transmitted to Tv...And presented by the one and only moi!!

Danny 04-21-2002 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
I dont like hippies...they dont shave and they look awful...
I shave...

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also, they are too fussy.
Don't know where you got that one from... Hippies are famously unfussy...

Jacob 04-21-2002 07:07 PM

Swampy doesn't and he is fussy

Danny 04-21-2002 08:02 PM

Who's Swampy?

Jacob 04-21-2002 10:08 PM

Dont u remember him, like 5 yrs back or sumat, he was this parasitic hippy and he was really gross and ugly looking. I used to watch the stuff he was on so i cud bitch...

Statikk HDM 04-22-2002 11:35 PM

Will the real Swampy Marsh please stand up, please stand up
 
Swampy Marsh worked on what could be called nickelodeon's magnum opus:Rocko's Modern life!!!!! Long live swampy marsh!!!

One, Two, Middlesboogie 05-25-2002 02:07 PM

WHOO-HOO!
 
To get back on topic... SUCCESS! For the time being, anyway.

Just got this in my email:

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The Fisheries Agency of Japan failed again at this year's meeting of the International Whaling Commission to end the 1986 moratorium on commercial whaling despite building a larger than ever bloc of votes bought with promises of overseas development aid. The usual group of eastern Caribbean countries plus western African nations Benin and Gabon, Pacific island nation Palau and even land-locked Mongolia voted in lockstep
with Japan, with only a couple of surprise abstentions from St. Vincent and the Grenadines breaking the grim pattern.

Nevertheless, the Japanese-bought voting bloc was not large enough to revive commercial whaling. In what can only be seen as a bitter retribution, Japan blocked the small non-commercial traditional whale quota assigned to Arctic aboriginal peoples in Russia and the United States - the first time in the history of the IWC that this quota was blocked.

See the Greenpeace whales site at:
http://whales.greenpeace.org
for more information.

Thank you to the thousands of people who wrote letters to Japan, to countries who were selling their vote, and to stiffen the resolve of anti-whaling nations. Thanks also to everyone who signed our picture petition against whaling and encouraged friends and colleagues to join the Global Whale Action Team. In part because of your effort, the plans of the Fisheries Agency of Japan have been defeated for another year and the whales have been given a brief reprieve.

In a few weeks our whale campaign will begin discussing next steps. The Fisheries Agency of Japan continues to buy more votes, and unless they are stopped, it is only a matter of time before the ban on commercial whaling is overturned.

We welcome your suggestions on the next steps forward. Please join in the discussion at:

http://act.greenpeace.org/1022278096

Danny 05-25-2002 09:58 PM

I got that, too. I heaved a sigh of relief as I read it...

Surfacing 05-27-2002 05:14 AM

Form filled :)

Statikk HDM 05-28-2002 09:23 PM

Someone brought up predators. Well, I ask you, what the hell is going to mess with a pod of friggin' whales, the biggest animals on earth. And with the wolves, they don't take a lot of deers and it is not as though they arwe on the verge of extinction. Populations are exploding and seasons on them will soon be opened. In fact not only are wolves and coyotes no longer on the endangered list but their is a movement to take them off the threatened list. So the wolve argument is like a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Nuke the whales for Jesus.

Statikk HDM 05-28-2002 09:25 PM

Oh and don't give money to those eco gestapos, PETA and Greenpeace. They ave hundreds of thousands of dollars to eco terrorists but less than 800 dollars to humane societies. Your money goes to the scum of the earth, eco terrorists and the like, if you give them money.

Danny 05-28-2002 09:57 PM

You really are a dickhead, aren't you?

Jacob 05-29-2002 06:55 PM

Damn, Danny beat me to it!!