No such thing as Ghosts. Its pent up energy, like telekinesis. Sometimes if the person who died, died in a horrible way, causing alot of traumatisation then the energy will stay in the house/room. Causing un-pleasantness to the person. This is one of many theories of corse.

There is no such thing as Negative Energy. Well, I suppose it depends on your definition. Some kinds of energy are Vector, in which case negative energy would just be energy going the other way... You've been watching too much Sci-Fi, my friend. They're always making up things like this when they need something ominous-sounding...

My grandfather once told my dad (when they were like 20) not to go on this road trip with his friends because he had a funny fealing.

The next day they found out that all dads friends died in a car crash!!! :(

Spooky huh...?

I dont belive in ghosts myself, but i have noticed some wierd stuff...

Two years after my granfather died (exactly on the same day) we where at my granmothers house sitting at the table and suddenly the clock started to ring... It rang about 14 times and it wassen even time for the clock to ring!

Also Id say that im a bit phycic myself... I can prodict stuff, stuff like "exactly" what someone is going to say, and whats going to happen... Not alwas, cuas i do get suprised allot;).
Can sence stuff like...humm... Example: I can think something like "My sis is going to come out of her room and walk up to me and ask something". And then a few minuets later she dose. Though that example hassent happend, but stuff like that.

Thats why I say it is scientific. There scientists out there who are testing these theories. I got the negetive energy idea from a documentery film I saw a while back. A fellow class mate did a research project on ghost and he brought in a video to view to the class. In that video they were talking about negetive energy. But of coarse it was only a scientific theory. It wasent written in stone or anything like that. I think it was just interesting! I do believe that spirts or ghost can exist. But not how we view them through the media but more like a copy of our selves but invisible to the naked eye. Kind of like your reflection within other demensional realities.

It has been proven that there are 12 seperate demensions. we exist in the 3rd. ;)

You weren't listening. Negative Energy isn't a Scientific Theory, it's something that Sci-fi writers made up to sound sinister. In reality, Negative Energy is very mundane...

Also, you're wrong. There are 11 dimensions. And we exist in all of them. How could we exist in one dimension? Have you never heard of sideways? If we only existed in one dimension, there would be no sideways, no up or down, no future or past... There would only be forwards and backwards. Stop trying to pretend you know a lot about science...

Actually, i also have heard of different Dimensions. And that we live in the 3rd.

I agree with that...he does act like that.

if I'm not mistaken there are 11 dimensions (taking that entirely from danny) and we only perceive three.

Yes, but we do experience them all.

Oh, by the way, the 11th Dimension is very thin, but very long, and contains lots of tiny 1-dimensional Universes...

my friends grandma had dreams and stuff of the number 1111 and she wudd always wak up from them at 11:11... pretty wierd huh? well that wasnt the end of it... my mom took her to the deli once and she (my friends grandma) tried to get a lotto ticket with # 1111, anyway, they were all sold out of that # so the next day wen my friends granma checked the winning #'s guess which # won, thats right 1111! wierd, huh?

"To Be a God"
 

(Kaku 45-49).

This comes from the book HYPERSPACE by Michio Kaku. It is non-fiction theoretical physics. I repeat, this book is not Sci-Fi. I just started reading it. It also supports the theory of 10 dimensions. It mentions nothing about an 11th or 12th, but it is copyright 1994, so the theory may have changed since then.

NOTE: ...= I left something out of the article.
Anything in {} are my own words that I added to add clarity.




EDIT: I read a little further in the book, and it does mention the possibility of an 11th, and even as high as a 26th dimension.

The 11 Dimensions thing is a new theory. My mum's partner Bill heard a radio programme about it. Bill is into that sort of thing... Anything practically useless, he's your man...

You don't have to get mad at him he was just saying what he thought to be the truth.;)

Well I've never had a ghost encounter before, but I get de ja vu a lot. Sometimes two or three trimes a day, then not again for a couple of weeks or months, then again and again, then another off period for a while and so on.
Also, I read a lot about mythical creatures. I do think there's a chance that big foots exist, since they've only been seen in areas that people rarely ever go (such as high in the Tibetan mountains). I do believe in some psychic abilities, because there's no evidence against them and so many stories of similar cases with different people. Also, it's a known fact that we can only use around ten percent of our brains. What can the rest of it do? Also, something freaky and unexplained are all the cattle mutilations that took place in Texas and New Mexico over there in the states during the seventies. Wonder who pulled them off and cleared up all evidence of them, inlcuding foot prints, hair, tools, displaced shrubs, the lot!?!

Ive only heard that there was 12 demensions. Like in the 12th demension you would be abel to take a sphere and completly turn it inside out or minipulate it. Thats what I heard from my friends father who is doctor that is really good with math and phisics. Now I don't know if it's true or not. But the way he explained it to me sounded correct. So it's just a theory! Thats all. :fuzblink:

Reply to what The Shrink said about bigfoot...and to other belivers!
 

THE SHRINK! Dont take this personely!!!!!!! Its to everyone how belive

Big foot!? Oh dear... How can ONE harry thing survive for hmmmm.... Over 300 hundred years (thats how long peaple have belived in it). And you do need about 400 of them to survive and not die out... not two (wich is impossible sence there kids cant make more bigfoots with each other..). And there aint 400 monkey things running around in Brittish Colombia - Washington.

Well the Indians belived in it... And millions of kids belive in santa (yell you can see what i mean)... Do i smell dubble crossing goose ;)??

The Indians also told that story to the whitemen... Whas it to see how dum we where? Or to scare uss away?

Hmmm... How come the only place we ever go to happens to be bigfoots hideout? Just becuas we dont have heatseeking cameras in Lochness, must mean that it exists.
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But its not we who dissbelive this unlikely possebiletty, that proves the nonexistens of things... Its you guys who do belive that have to proove it!

Its like trying to proove the nonexistans of god to a beliver...

Oh, yes. Dont take it personaly! I hate it when i make someone sad or angry with my sarcasm.

But yes... get real proof, and il belive you...(not fake footprints or rubbersut photos!!!)

Well i hope ive given you a few things to think about

hmmm. no thats pritty much it. Do reply folks!

--Dark Xinos

Umm... Who are you talking to, and who are you talking about? I don't think anyone's got mad at anyone yet, in this thread... Are you sure you've posted in the right topic?

Not true. Incest is well documented in nonhuman species. If there were no recessive hereditary disorders in the family, it could conceivably survive for centuries with a very small number of individuals.

How many kids do you know who honestly believe in Santa? I mean really believe... Add to that the fact that most of them are little kids, who (let's face it) know very little about the world in general...

Quite so... But then, any evidence we provide will be dismissed as forgery, so what's the point?

Not quite. There is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of God, whereas there is considerable evidence for creatures such as Yetis, or the Lock Ness Monster.

This isn't sarcasm. This is just an argument...

Told you so...

Don't flatter yourself... ;)

Im quoting Danny now...
and that would leed to missshaped and handicaped kids... and there not gonna survive without help.
Anyone under 6-8 that have parents with a sence of humor
Says who? Catch a live one and let any sientist, or whoever is needed to confirm... I can prove that there are squirrels if everyone else forgetts it.
Lochness? I wonder why they had a camera with them that is worse than anycamera you can find. hmmm... any details ya like to hide?

I meant the infrared camera thing, etc...

No you dident! I, said it first and YOU quoted ME, AFTER I said it.
Dont lie now.

Finaly something we can agree on. Yes, I do like to take honor for what I do... but when i read it later i do regrett it. Seriusly!

Do you know anything about heredity? Incest does not necessarily lead to deformities. Only if there is a recessive genetic disorder in the family which, if I am not mistaken, I mentioned in my last post...

It's not the cameras that are poor, it's the water that is incredibly murky. Visibilty down there is a matter of metres... Do some research before trying to be sarcastic about something...

Okay, let me explain what I meant here, since it has clearly gone straight over your head. I said:You then said:I then said:By this I meant that I had predicted that you would dismiss any evidence provided as forgery. Clear now?

You know there is evidence of the existance of God if you think about it for a while. The evidence is all around you. It is nature it's self. It is the Universe and everything within it, that is God. God is not man nor a woman sitting in the clouds shooting lightening bolts down to punish us. God is the very essance of the Universe. In other words the nature of the Universe. That is why I believe God is eternal and that he never had a beginning nor will have an end. He just is. That view of God makes more sense to me than an old man sitting in the clouds. So if he is like I described him, then that means he is like everything, which means that he would be like us in his image. We as the humen race don't know much about our universe and how everything works. We only know our theories which are sometimes correct. But there are still questions remaining and that is "why?"

Sure you can say that I am completely wrong because it doesant say that in the Bible but you have to remember that the Bible was written over 2000 years ago and the humen race was not as advance in understanding everything around us. So they wrote the Bible in that manner of myth like. Those events took place but they took place in a different manner which humens cannot truely understand. So we wrote it in that manner. So this makes me believe that ghosts and the peranormal and God are real. And that it's not a fake.

Ask any athise how the Universe was created and they will say the Big Bang. But then ask them what made the Big Bang. And they will say something scientific like atoms being pulled apart or something like that. But then you ask them what created atoms or the energy that created the atoms which started the Big Bang. They won't be abel to answer you because they don't know. But it is God who did it all. Look at the beginning of the Bible "Let there be Light!" Hint the Big Bang.
This is just my theory of coarse. But it makes complete sense if you think about it for a while.

You started this paragraph with the sentence "You know there is evidence of the existance of God if you think about it for a while." You then proceeded to tell us exactly none of that evidence. Try again...

Ah yes, the Bible is a load of bollocks. Glad we agree on something...

Wrong. I would say one of the following:

1. The Big Crunch of the previous Universe.
2. A ripple in the Cosmic Foam.
3. We don't really know, but theories suggest (see 1. and 2.).

No it doesn't. It's blatant plagiarism of just about every non-fundamentalist christian alive, and it isn't any more likely when you say it than it is when they said it...

Paragraph one:

1. Oh yeah?
   
2. You mentioned the word 'evidence' but you didn't mention any evidence.
   
3. Yeah, I know that much!
   
4. The view of God not existing makes more sense than God existing.
   

Paragraph two:

1. I wouldn't say that you are wrong because it doesn't mention your theory in the Bible. I would say you were wrong for lots of other reasons. Namely, all the evidence which suggests that there is no God.
   
2. No it wasn't.
   
3. I agree that the Bible is based on myth and such but I belive the writers belived it.
   

Paragraph three:

1. I see what you mean. I won't correct you until I find out how it works myself.
   
2. Why should the atoms have been created? Things don't need to be created to exist.
   
3. I want some evidence.
   
4. I said I wanted evidence!
   

Correction: There is no evidence either way. The burden of proof is on the Believer, as (by definition) it would be impossible to prove the nonexistence of God. The evidence does point to the Big Bang Theory, to Evolution, etc, but there is no clear evidence against the existence of God.

I still don't believe in him...

But what I am trying to get at is what created the Big Bang in the first place. You just can't get something from nothing. And as for Cosmic foam or other demensions that proves my theroy too. God created that too. If you relate religion with science you will be surprised on the similarities. Like in creation the Big Bang. Well the Bible mention that as Let there be Light. It's dark then suddenly it gets light. Well I am pretty sure that the Big Bang made a lot of light. I believe there is sort of a hidden messege throughout the bible that we are finnally discovering through science. And I think that is incredible.

Yaaaaaa god?
 

I could be whrong here, there wasent nothing...there was dust, and particles, the big bang is an explotion that...exploded, when
all that spacecrap pile got to big (its enoth with one peace of sand that slowelo overe billions of years poled a smaller peace of sand to it... and so on and so forth... untill you get a trumendos pile...) and then when all of thoose wierd cemicles gather...well, the results was a Big Bang... and it will happen again, see. Sientists have a theory (that they have proven, even though some peaple dont belive OFCOURSE) that says like the universe is , and then i getting sucked together, and then it will compress again and CABLAM!! everything will be flung out again... and start all over again.

Q: I dont belive in big bang becuas there wassent anything to make and explosion. I belive that "god" created adam and eve
and we humans DID NOT EVOLVE FROM PRIMEAPES.
Arent I right?

A: Ehhhh... Did you read this in a magazine? Was it a tv or radio comercial that you missunderstood? Did you're parents tell you? Did you have a bad teacher in daycare? Wherever you got it from, there is now proof of this god thingy exists... some jerk just maid it up to get money via tha church (possebilety). And gods suposed to be good right? What did god prevent for our sake, he? War? Suffering? High Xbox prises? Whoooohoooo! Go god! I worship you're mercy on uss humans! Naaaaaaa. My apinion: GOD = BS

This topic finally went into a fight between God and non-God believers. It took longer than I expected... oh well.

Regarding science, that is my opinion: all our theories about the way the universe works are limited by our very limited nature of being humans.

Studying the universe, Reneé Descartes once said: "God is an unnecessary variable in my equations." That incredibly arrogant afirmation was said by a seventeen century man, who knew nothing about integral and diferential calculus, or Einstein's atronomic theories, or quantic physics, and didn't have any sort of technological devices available to support his researches. Nowadays, he is still considered one of the most brilliant men of his time.

Looking at this example, we can think a little about the limited knowledge we have of the universe. If God exists or not, we will only be able to tell in a far future, when we become ready to experience it. Meanwhile, we have to keep our minds wide open, and, as Carl Seagan said, maintain an skeptic methodology to analise the world, and express our profound admiration on each new discovery.

I have an annoying feeling that this reply doesn't make a minimum sense at all...

New Threory...off the top of my head, thought of it in literally 5 seconds. God is Lucifer!!

God creates man, but then man turns on God doing the whole non-believing crap, God then falls from heaven, to get back up in Heaven God then does good things to the world, people dont believe it, God then does bad things, people then say 'Its the Devil' etc. etc. , God then gets labelled as the Devil while people believe in nothing...Lucifer exists...but Lucifer created the world. Poooor God.

um...I saw in this show a tape was rolling and somthing harry and HUGE ran into the trees.it was scary

yAAAy Monkey Costumes!

God gave us a free will to live. God is not the cause of all the problems within our world it is us that is the problem. It is the choices we make as an indivdual where we have our problems in this world.

If God were to control us we would be like drones or robots doing the same thing. Thats what makes us unique, The very fact that we have our individuality is a gift from the Almighty himself. Period!
;)

God gave us free-will due to Lucifer dancing around him going:

# Give 'em free will, free will, free will. Give 'em free will, free-eee-eeeeee will!! #

We owe the great Lucifiel!! So...WORSHIP MY DADDY!!

This may be a bit off topic but, what is Cosmic Foam?

That's what's put on space ships so they can bump into each other and not break. Very useful for playing bumper-ships!

No. Its becuas we have brains! The rteson where not like drones is cuas were not Borg;). We were dum at first, but we evolved to be smarter. Paramiteabe, tell me what made YOU belive in god.

It depends on what theory you subscribe to.

Oscillating Universe: The Big Crunch of the previous Universe.
Cosmic Foam: Ripples causing Bubbles to arise.
Other Theories: I don't know enough about them to say.

Yes. So?

No. If the Cosmic Foam Theory is correct, then the Cosmic Foam has always been there, or has never been there, depending on your point of view - Time is an internal thing, and so outside the Universes, there is none...

The short answer is, yes, you are wrong. Before the Big Bang, there was nothing. Not only that, but there was no Space or Time in which there could be anything. Unless, of course, you believe in the Oscillating Universe Theory, but even then, you're still wrong...

Then why does he get so pissed off when we use it?

How does he get pissed off?

Paramiteabe, and you other god fans, awnser me this PLEASE

You say that nothing can exist without being created.
And therefor God mustof created it.

No think about those two things a cupple of times and awnser: WHAT CREATED GOD? nothing exist without a GOD creating stuff. There for a GOD must have created a GOD. And that can make you're mind spin for a time...
So, therefor. God must of just suddenly existed, cuas nothing was there to create him. So, why cant the universe just be created like that.

EDIT: Know i guess you might awnser me with some possible replys...

1. No, it dossent work that way. God just exists.

A: Whell what can I say. "No it dossent work that way, the Universe just exists"(?). Its not a good awnser.

A COMMENT TO THAT LAST POINT WE BOTH CAN SAY TO THAT: Your just saying that cuas you cant think of anything better.
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Paramiteabe said: "God is nither a man or woman." Yet you address god with "he"?!
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2.
Q:Whell if the Universe pops out of no-where, why cant god?

A: Whell in that case we dont have dont have evidence to belive in nither of them.

Edit: Paramiteabe said: "God is nither a man or woman."
R: Yet you address god with "he"?!

Does this have to turn into another religeous TOPIC!


I sure as hell have had encounters with ghosts but it's to hard to explain what happened...but scince my little experience i've believed in ghosts.

Very good point, Xenos.

Something related to the thing about God's creation:
Recently, a COE church I pass on my way to school put 'GODISNOWHERE (Now read it again)' on its advertising board. When it is read again, it supposedly reads 'GOD IS NOW HERE' but I thought Christians were in the belif that God is omnipresent and therefore was everywhere all the time.

Maybe that means God, apparently, WAS created.

Something doesn't add up ... Damn zealots, always changing the stories.

zealots!? What do they have to do with this? Xelnaga.

Or did you just say that as a funny line?