1. They are Vegans, not Vegetarians. So don't call me a moron, I didn't call you one. I simply used the term to describe people who thought like that. I didn't realise you did...

2. Don't try the old "I don't understand what you're saying" trick... You're not fooling anyone...

3. I don't know your friend, no. Is there something wrong with her? Is she lactose-intolerant or gluten-allergenic? Does she come from a poor family? If there is no other reason, then it is laziness. You can't live on Salads...

4. Yes I do.

5. Lambs have the right teeth and digestive system. Unlike you, I believe Biologists, instead of thinking I know better...

6. Of course you can't just eat meat. By "Militant Carnivore", I meant those people who think it is their Moral Right, nay, Duty to eat meat...

2. No, I really don't know what you are talking about! Explain what you meant. So don't think everytime I say "what I don't understand" does not mean anything. Why do you get so aggresive about it?

3. I know you can't. Some people do and try to.

4. No you don't if people evolve from eating meat. I don't even know. People do slaughter food and territory sometimes based on ingorance and sometimes hate. There's alot of issues. Those are choices, we did'nt evolve from those things. People choice to slaughter. Some people want peace.

5. No, I asked WHY do lambs eat veggies while lions eat meat? Why don't lions eat veggies and lambs eat meat. Why were lions made to eat meat and why not vegetables.

Do you go the whole hog while you eat, oh righteous veggies(pun intended)
 

Well, how vegetarian are you? I'm aware that a lot of them go here, so I wondered: Do you eat fish and or other seafood? If you do, isn't that a little like slaughtering "innocent" livestock? Do you eat dairy? I knew someone who will not touch it, because it makes the animals slaves and sometimes the cows are treated with bovine growth hormone! Have you ever "eaten a carcass", you know, succumbed to temptation and partaken of animal/ Anyone ever slip meat or meat products into your food as a joke(albeit a twisted one) I'm sorry for being inquistitive and nosy but inquiring minds need to know!

I know that iron deficiency leads to anemia, and that some symptoms of the disease are pale skin and hair falling out. I know many vegetarians, and the "average" one does not get the symptoms you described.I said "on average", there will always be exceptions for individuals. Statistics are formed through research.No offence taken. Like I said, I know many vegetarians and they all look healthy to me. I am naturally pale, meat or not. My skin is susceptable to burn so I wear sunscreen.

I don't eat meat of any kind, meaning no fish or chicken either. I do consume dairy products, as I've yet to be convinced that it is inhumane to milk cows. Of course it gets complicated and there are many ways you can look at it. I only eat the eggs that our pet hen lays. "Succumbed to temptation"??? No, the very smell of cooking meat makes my stomach churn. It's repulsive. I ate meat when I was younger, before becoming a vegetarian.

LOL, *starts to sing the odd couple music!*

DA DUM DI DUM DA DUM, DUM DA DUM DUM DI DUM DUM!

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!! that's true!

Mets jummy, so il eat it.

Yay!!!!!!! No it isn't!

I'm a vegitarian, and I tell you, do *I* look like a ghost? No? Well, there you go then!
Infact the only reason I look pale at this point in time is because I have flu, but thats not the point.
- DH

Danny, please stop. If your only trying to make fun of Dubya, than just say so. I really don't give a flying %#&$ what you say about him.

2. Oh, sorry. I thought I had made it clear. It's hard to think of a way to make it any simpler... Ok, let me put it this way. You know that we need certain things from foods, right? Carbohydrates, Proteins, Lipids, Vitamins, and Minerals, etc. Now, Meat contains some of these things. However, everything that can be obtained from meat can also be obtained from other food sources. Clear?

4. People choose to eat meat as well. That doesn't make any difference.

5. That question means nothing to me, because I do not believe that Lions and Lambs were "made" at all. I believe they evolved. You believe God created one. Therefore, this point has no future, so there is no point in even attempting to explain it...

6. No. For health reasons as well as ethical reasons. Do you know how much waste is pumped into the sea? When you eat a fish, you are chowing down on other people's used condoms...

7. Yes. Like Sydney, I have yet to be convinced of its cruelty.

8. I didn't become vegetarian until I was about 7 or so (I forget precisely). So yes, I have eaten meat (or whatever colourful metaphor you wish to assign the activity). However, I no longer see any temptation in eating meat. Foul stuff... [I did once eat a piece of Bacon fried in Beer, for curiosity's sake. My justification is that it no longer really deserved to be called food, let alone meat... Anyway, it was disgusting, so I won't be doing that again...]

Well, I didn't want to mention it... ;)

I honestly had no idea anyone would take offense at that. I wasn't making fun of anyone, I was just showing everyone that I was aware that I was using an Americanism, as I am irritated when other English people do it. I have nothing against Americans at all (in general - don't start me on Dubya)...

On the subject of vegetarians looking like ghosts...

I have never met a vegetarian or vegan who looks like they have mal-nutrition.
I haven't met many people who look like they have mal-nutrition.

Yay!!! Sometimes it is!


I'm a meat-eater. I'm healthy. I'm not fat. That's not true that vegetarians live longer than meat eaters. There was this dude who was highly healthy in eating fruits and vegetables. Doctor said he was healthy. He dropped dead. Can you explain that?

Like I said before..NO COMMENT! Bwahahahah!

LOL, Yuck! homer simpson fan aren't we?;) You can be the next Martha Stewarts.

My dictionary defines "vegetarian" as "a person who eats no meat, and sometimes no animal products (as milk, eggs, etc.) . . . ."

I think that it is a reasonable and logical perspective that veganism is a subset of vegetarianism, which also includes ovo-lacto-vegetarianism, lacto-vegetarianism, etc. According to this perspective, it is true that some (or most, if you prefer) vegetarians eat all foods except meat. But not all.

You are within your rights, of course, to consider veganism as completely different from vegetarianism. But I think what you call a "misconception" is actually a difference of perspective as to the structural hierarchy of dietary preference, and I don't think that people who hold that perspective are "morons." Consider also the possibility that some people who hold misconceptions are perfectly intelligent people that haven't taken a particular interest in a subject and aren't as well-informed.

Electricution, over-dose, bus, AK-47, Socom, rail gun, metiorite, vacuum, cats, hyaenas, alien abduction, stick insects, vampire bats, boredom, he thought he was going to sleep but it was only a euphamism, a trouser-releated accident, he watched an ITV 'documentary' with the suffix 'From Hell', Xbox deficiency, a trajic F9000 Anti-Gravity Racing League accident.
Need I list more? (please say yes, that was fun!)



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Hmm, I suppose you have a point there, Doug.
This is how I see it,
Dietary habits
- Vegitarianism - A dietary habit in its own right
-- Veganism - A subsection of the Vegitarianism dietary habit but...but...Damn your stable logical arguments! I'm not used to attempting to dis-prove logical arguments in topics which Quorhisha contributes to!

You're a healthy meat eater - good for you. But statistically, vegetarians do live longer than meat eaters. Gluk's already answered the later part of your paragraph.

Cmon now...no meat?
 

God created us as (some word I can't remember)avores, so, I eat meat..

Re: Cmon now...no meat?
 

1. That is completely subjective.

2. Omnivores is the word you're looking for

3. Because of your omnivority you have a choice of whether or not to eat meat

Kay, let me refraise that....

I eat meat. ;)

I apologise if my terminology was wrong, Doug. I was pissed off because I have had this discussion several times over the past few weeks, and there's alway someone who confuses Vegetarianism with Veganism. And they are generally morons, although that may just be coincidence...

As for what Quorisha said: Well, Sydney and Tom have already taken care of that...

Yeah statistically. And it's statistically that black teens get pregnant more than white teens (this was in the Essence magazine), and It's not a fact. Just like that veggie thing is not a fact.

Gluk, I would like if you would not call me by my real name. Please respect that.

Fine. I only assumed (you don't like me doing that, do you) it was ok to call you by it because you mentioned that you didn't like your forum name.

Statistics don't become invalid simply because the results cause you discomfort.

Lol!...
 

Well I a Vedgie and am teased about it. But its strange cos like syd said all my friends stink!!!!!!

urrgh
 

i never knew about the breath smelling of rotting meat thing:sick:
i think i might ease of eating so much dead animal..

Re: urrgh
 

Puhlease, don't listen to him. I eat meat and I don't stank and My breath spells minty fresh! Rather have meaty breath than garlic crap fresh from garlic juice which takes a long time to brush out of your mouth even if you include mouthwash! :D

Your breath can stank from vegetables also not just garlic and onions.

Exactly!

And eating meat........... yummmie!

Re: Re: urrgh
 

Of course it would seem that way to you, as you're used to the foul stench of meat breath.Come on, is that your best defense? :rolleyes:

Re: Re: Re: urrgh
 

Nope, your wrong I just keep myself clean!:D

Edit: It would be true if I just eat meat and don't care about my self but I don't eat just meat and I do take baths and care for myself. I eat vegetables, fruit, meat, etc. I like to be open-minded and try out everything.:D

Yep, is "foul smell of rotten flesh" you best one? I mean, my grandma can do better!:D Your just upset because it's true.:rolleyes:

Right Pinky, I'm jealous because I'm doomed to suffer from vegetable breath for the rest of my days. I wish I could have minty-fresh meat-breath like you.

Yeah, I wish I have minty fresh garlic vegetable breathe like you! Bwahaha. Do you believe in toothpaste? You can brush you teeth after you eat meat and the smell will go away. How can you judge when you don't even eat meat?

Do pardon me, I wasn't aware that passing judgement was reserved only for those of us who consume meat. Thank you for enlightening me, and please accept my apologies.

Ok that may be true but your a smoker right? well non smokers live longer than smokers, i'd rather be a meat eater than a smoker any day, also you said something about meat causeing bad breath? What on earth do you think smoking does? All that tar and that just plan bad smell from smoking gives you a horrific breath not to mention what it makes your cloths smell like.

This topic is about eating meat, not about smoking. I don't recall ever encouraging people to smoke cigarettes.

Nah, I was kidding that last post. Thanks for apologizing. I can't eat just meat. I have to have something else with it.

So was I Pinky. :D

Try looking at the Hunzacuts, the Georgians, the East Indian Todas, or the Yucatan Indians, to name but a few. They are famous for their longevity, due to a diet high in raw foods and low in protein, and all suffer from hardly any degenerative diseases and living for up to one hundred and twenty years. And that's just the documented stuff. There are plenty of real old people appearing the same age as you or I who carefully guard the secrets of longevity, but who are only too happy to share the benefits of an animal-free diet.

Also, consider races such as the Eskimos, Laplanders and Greenlanders, whose average life expectancy is between thirty and forty years and who live in a diet extremely high in animal protein. The Arctic explorer Svenson was impressed by the hardy eskimos and their diet of meat, so much so that he went home and tried it himself. Unfortunately he cooked his meatand became so seriously ill he would have died had he not stopped. Modern day Eskimos have begun to cook their meat as a result of contact with 'civilisation'. The diseases of civilisation have soon followed.

TALIBAN - eats, shits, attracts flies
CONCLUSION - must be killed

COWS - eats, shits, attracts flies
CONCLUSION - must be killed!

hmm
 

other animals eat meat,so why don't we think about that when we talk about being vegterians?:fuzblink:

Re: hmm
 

We have already discussed this.

just eat it..... it tastes good!