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Nate 01-23-2017 09:24 PM

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But Abe can chant with a stitched Mouth. So this Theory don't really works.

Poor quality control (8th question down).

horiZon 01-24-2017 02:39 AM

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I’ve always hated the disconnect between the ending of AE (“but we knew there had to be more of us out there … and we were gonna find ‘em”) and the events of MO (schlepping around in nameless industrial microbusinesses to get a can of tuna).

Despite its fairly minimal addition to the story, AE established this sense that Abe and co. were getting organized and preparing to fully take on the industrialists, with Abe assuming the role of their guide. But that never came through into the story of MO, and that’s just another strike against MO.

In MO Abe freed also the Mudokon Eggs. So he really freed 'em. He also wanted to free Sam! But they needed to cut it out. :(
As long as Sam isn't free, they can't raid the Magog Castel. Sam is the only hope they have for living on.
So my hopes are on, she appears maybe at the end of Soulstorm?!
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Poor quality control (8th question down).

Who wants to be the 3rd one explain it to me in this Thread? Seems like once isn't enough. :P
[Love u, Nate!]

@Topic: So the ARG is down now, maybe this Thread get's
some more love.

If i look at the Picture, it seems to be the Story before Abe raids to the Brew Factory. Maybe they put so - SO much more in into SS. Exodus maybe is just a piece of Cake to it. :3

OWI_Pete 01-24-2017 02:55 AM

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Maybe they put so - SO much more in into SS. Exodus maybe is just a piece of Cake to it. :3

Was going to reply to this with something about how much extra thought is going into Soulstorm but then I got distracted thinking about cake.

OWI_Pete 01-24-2017 03:10 AM

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It is indeed a possibility. Peter from OWI has said (basically) that the Quintology doesn't matter anymore.

Nope, never that it doesn't matter, that would be silly. Just that it was a plan that never got finished and, although we still have the option to do that, we also have an opportunity to go in a different direction and, perhaps, make a different kind of quintology (or sextology or whatever!). Ideas evolve and grow, my personal opinion is that it would be crazy to restrict that potential for new and exciting things for the sake of making games that we first spoke about 20 years ago.

Of course, we'd love to be able to make all the games we've got ideas for.

Edit: Apologies for the double post :/

Manco 01-24-2017 03:17 AM

It’s cake baked by Glukkons, it’s probably bad for ya.


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That's not bad in terms of organization. Yet, it seems like they have no tangible connection with the Spirit of 1029, based on how the ARG makes it feel like Abe and co. are completely in the dark about Molluck's other business ventures (among them a vertical monopoly in the creation of Soulstorm Brew). It seems like Ed plays the role of a whistleblower who caught wind of Abe's escapades (through Magog On the March, perhaps?), and figured he'd be the perfect guy to topple the whole thing.

This gives me the impression that Spirit of 1029 is a loosely-organized group of a few (likely ex-slave) Mudokons, each of whom were "employed" somewhere along the Soulstorm Brew production process. This would allow them to collaborate to complete the puzzle (almost like WikiLeaks). Tapping into long-distance communication would certainly help, and Ed seems particularly tech-savvy (although how our friends at the Monsaic Lines are getting any intel is another story).

This is probably on the mark. The whole “exposing bad stuff happening” angle is probably a play on the Glukkons stitching eyes shut in AE – they didn’t want anyone to find out, but there’s a mole in the system. Ed and the Spirit of 1029 are likely inside Necrum, but I wonder if they have people in the Brewery itself? In AE most Mudokons didn’t seem to know what the bones were being dug up for.

It reminds me less of Wikileaks and more of the animals rights activists who record footage of bad practices in slaughterhouses and farms. Just on a much more sadistic scale.

V_O_T 01-24-2017 03:21 AM

@OWI_Pete, As mentioned above, a Magog on the march PR move would be amazing. Just drop the hint when you can for us ;)

horiZon 01-24-2017 04:06 AM

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Was going to reply to this with something about how much extra thought is going into Soulstorm but then I got distracted thinking about cake.

The Cake is a lie !
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Of course, we'd love to be able to make all the games we've got ideas for.
Well, a Movie would be great too ! :)

Xavier 01-24-2017 04:12 AM

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Nope, never that it doesn't matter, that would be silly. Just that it was a plan that never got finished and, although we still have the option to do that, we also have an opportunity to go in a different direction and, perhaps, make a different kind of quintology (or sextology or whatever!). Ideas evolve and grow, my personal opinion is that it would be crazy to restrict that potential for new and exciting things for the sake of making games that we first spoke about 20 years ago.

Of course, we'd love to be able to make all the games we've got ideas for.

Edit: Apologies for the double post :/

My point exactly, I don't want you guys to be restricted by ideas that were communicated years ago. I just want cool stuff :D

Also is that the Spirit of 1029 logo in your avatar?

Vlam 01-24-2017 04:30 AM

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Nope, never that it doesn't matter, that would be silly. Just that it was a plan that never got finished and, although we still have the option to do that, we also have an opportunity to go in a different direction and, perhaps, make a different kind of quintology (or sextology or whatever!). Ideas evolve and grow, my personal opinion is that it would be crazy to restrict that potential for new and exciting things for the sake of making games that we first spoke about 20 years ago.

Of course, we'd love to be able to make all the games we've got ideas for.

Edit: Apologies for the double post :/

I call a spade a spade.

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Lorne’s original vision was to create a series of five videogames, the Oddworld Quintology, with each game introducing a new hero who would join the existing band of revolutionaries on their journey to put an end to the exploitation of cultures, people and the natural world by profiteering capitalists. It would culminate with five heroes in the consumer metropolis, but it would start with a hapless laborer in a third-world meat factory: Abe was a layperson in every way.
http://www.oddworld.com/oddworld-history/



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make a different kind of quintology

Thus this isn't the Oddworld Quintology (as defined by Lorne Lanning) anymore. I don't mind: I'm just saying.

kjjcarpenter 01-24-2017 04:31 AM

I understand what Vlam's saying. Essentially, we should have another term to refer to the new canon.

Varrok 01-24-2017 04:35 AM

What about just series?

kjjcarpenter 01-24-2017 04:37 AM

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What about just series?

Not Oddworldian enough.

How about the Oddthology?

Varrok 01-24-2017 04:43 AM

Just call it series. Please.

OWI_Pete 01-24-2017 04:46 AM

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@OWI_Pete, As mentioned above, a Magog on the march PR move would be amazing. Just drop the hint when you can for us ;)

We've got a lot of ideas around this and I hope you'll be very happy with them when we're finally able to show you all...

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Also is that the Spirit of 1029 logo in your avatar?
I don't know, is it? How did that get there?

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Thus this isn't the Oddworld Quintology (as defined by Lorne Lanning) anymore. I don't mind: I'm just saying.
So we're essentially agreeing - this isn't that quintology. It might not even be a quintology. Maybe we'll go for six or seven or even more throughout the arc of this story. It's my opinion that the most important thing is telling the story and getting more games out there. I don't really care what terminology we use for doing that.

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What about just series?
Well, there's a common sense idea that fixes a lot of communication problems, huh? ;)

Xavier 01-24-2017 04:46 AM

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Not Oddworldian enough.

How about the Oddthology?

The Great Oddventure

Please don't

STM 01-24-2017 04:48 AM

The Oddnibus.

kjjcarpenter 01-24-2017 04:48 AM

For the record, quintology is an erroneous term applicable only to Oddworld. It's actually pentalogy.

OWI_Pete 01-24-2017 04:53 AM

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For the record, quintology is an erroneous term applicable only to Oddworld. It's actually pentalogy.

Well, now you're just being pODDantic.

Xavier 01-24-2017 04:55 AM

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I don't know, is it? How did that get there?

Dude, the SPIRITOF1029 Mud activists have been infiltrating your account. Change your password now!

Manco 01-24-2017 04:58 AM

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For the record, quintology is an erroneous term applicable only to Oddworld. It's actually pentalogy.

Let’s just keep it as the Quintology even if it’s no longer 5 games. Then if pedants try to correct it we just start making grammatical errors and odd puns at them.

kjjcarpenter 01-24-2017 05:01 AM

But we already have five games?

Abe's Oddysee > Abe's Exoddus > Munch's Oddysee > Stranger's Wrath > New 'n' Tasty

does this not mean that the series is complete???????!!

Varrok 01-24-2017 05:01 AM

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Dude, the SPIRITOF1029 Mud activists have been infiltrating your account. Change your password now!

I think it's just a hole in forums' security due to being really outdated. OWI_Pete's password is safe with me.

Manco 01-24-2017 05:03 AM

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But we already have five games?

Abe's Oddysee > Abe's Exoddus > Munch's Oddysee > Stranger's Wrath > New 'n' Tasty

does this not mean that the series is complete???????!!

Lorne never said there would only be one Quintology…

Nod’s Oddysee confirmed

ndvr 01-24-2017 05:04 AM

Odd Wars saga
- Episode I: Meaty Menace
- Episode II: Attack of the Sligs
- Episode III: Revenge of the Glukkons
- Episode IV: A New'n'Tasty Hope
- Episode V: Magog Cartel Strikes Back
- Episode VI: Return of the Abe

and some spinoff Episode VII: Gabbit Awakens

kjjcarpenter 01-24-2017 05:05 AM

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Odd Wars saga
- Episode I: Meaty Menace
- Episode II: Attack of the Sligs
- Episode III: Revenge of the Glukkons
- Episode IV: A New'n'Tasty Hope
- Episode V: Magog Cartel Strikes Back
- Episode VI: Return of the Abe

and some spinoff Episode VII: Gabbit Awakens

Episode VIII: The Last Meech

Xavier 01-24-2017 05:07 AM

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But we already have five games?

Abe's Oddysee > Abe's Exoddus > Munch's Oddysee > Stranger's Wrath > New 'n' Tasty

does this not mean that the series is complete???????!!

We're actually in the second Quitology:

Abe's Oddysee > Oddworld Adventures > Abe's Exoddus > Oddworld Adventures II > Munch's Oddysee > Munch's Oddysee GBA > Stranger's Wrath > New 'n' Tasty

And I'm not counting the HD versions :p

Varrok 01-24-2017 05:07 AM

Another spinoff: An Odd One

kjjcarpenter 01-24-2017 05:09 AM

Guys, look, I'm just holding out for STRANGER 2: SEKTO STRIKES BACK

ndvr 01-24-2017 05:23 AM

So, OWI always told us that Soulstorm will be more darker than original... Will it be THAT Dark?

Varrok 01-24-2017 05:24 AM

We can only hope.

Manco 01-24-2017 05:29 AM

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So, OWI always told us that Soulstorm will be more darker than original... Will it be THAT Dark?

The marketing so far has very much hinted at a darker tone, but it’ll be difficult to say for sure until we see trailers and gameplay footage. ARGs tend to have a slightly creepy vibe to them which might be influencing our perception of the game.

Oddworld has always had plenty of humor though, and Lorne Lanning has talked in the past about using entertainment to get a message across, so I doubt they plan to cut that out of the series.

e: dangit I didn’t notice your attachment, nice work

ndvr 01-24-2017 06:07 AM

BREAKING NEWS!!!
Seems like our hacker team managed to get first alpha gameplay screenshot of this "darker" game:

P.S.: Just joking. Please don't get mad guys

Varrok 01-24-2017 06:48 AM

I love it! Finally OWI understood our needs!

...oh, it was a joke? :(

Vexen 01-24-2017 09:13 AM

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So, OWI always told us that Soulstorm will be more darker than original... Will it be THAT Dark?

How can a reimagining of a game that has explosive farts in it be dark?

ndvr 01-24-2017 12:32 PM

Hackers also found promotional image of BigFace! But for some reason he's called GiantDad GiantFace in this game... Well, after all, the Legend never dies.
They also got few phrases from his speech script:
"Git gud, Scrab"
"What are you? Slig?"
"What spirit rings you got, bithc?"

P.S.: Why there's no HD/HQ pics of BigFace?!
God, I'm having way too much fun from making this quality images.

Nicky Ali 01-24-2017 12:34 PM

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How can a reimagining of a game that has explosive farts in it be dark?

I'd like to believe that OWI are taking that as a personal challenge

Slog Bait 01-24-2017 12:39 PM

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How can a reimagining of a game that has explosive farts in it be dark?

Consider this: the whole reason why those farts were possessable and explosive in the first place is because brew was made from the bones and tears of mudokons. Abe was basically possessing what remained of the mudokons' spirits that helped make the brew.

All you've got to do is add a little bit of body horror or screaming and those explosive farts turn way dark way fast. ;)

TheParamitePie 01-24-2017 12:43 PM

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Consider this: the whole reason why those farts were possessable and explosive in the first place is because brew was made from the bones and tears of mudokons. Abe was basically possessing what remained of the mudokons' spirits that helped make the brew.

All you've got to do is add a little bit of body horror or screaming and those explosive farts turn way dark way fast. ;)

Wow when you put it that way it really does make it a lot darker...

ndvr 01-24-2017 12:49 PM

And before I got banned, last image (I promise!).

Seems like there was first version of "darker" than New'n'Tasty game, but it was eventually scrapped and the only thing which left was this image. Thanks God they scrapped it.

Manco 01-24-2017 01:10 PM

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Consider this: the whole reason why those farts were possessable and explosive in the first place is because brew was made from the bones and tears of mudokons. Abe was basically possessing what remained of the mudokons' spirits that helped make the brew.

All you've got to do is add a little bit of body horror or screaming and those explosive farts turn way dark way fast. ;)

Immediate reaction: jesus

But after thinking on it, even that wouldn’t dispel the fact that there’s a gameplay feature based entirely on toilet humor.