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Pirfsich 04-13-2016 03:36 AM

Nice!
So we have a good chance that it's correct :D

Connell 04-13-2016 03:38 AM

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Tweets have been sent, btw i cant take credit for these solutions. They were done by my friend Panda who is a Witness Wizard

I can't see why that solution wouldn't work, so awesome! :) Am I right in thinking that circles don't appear in the actual Witness game? I couldn't find any mention of them online when looking up the rules.

(Offtopic: I really want this game now though. Shame Wii U is neglected as always)

EJ Prime 04-13-2016 03:39 AM

Yeah the red circles don't appear anywhere so I don't understand what their mechanic is.

(offtopic response: really? Wii U seems like the perfect platform with the gamepad.)

Pirfsich 04-13-2016 03:41 AM

That's nice cross-promo, indeeed, but not for 37€. Sorry, Jonathan. Maybe soon.

I didn't see circles either. Probably just a distraction which we sucessfully ignored.

Connell 04-13-2016 03:42 AM

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Yeah the red circles don't appear anywhere so I don't understand what their mechanic is.

(offtopic response: really? Wii U seems like the perfect platform with the gamepad.)

How bizarre, well I hope we have our basis covered with both of those solutions. They fit every other mechanic!

(offtopic response response: exactly what I was thinking! And whilst looking beautiful it's not overly graphically demanding, or at least it could be run at 720p 30fps with lower resolution textures and still be a damn good game. Strange. Anyway. that's enough of my moaning. Ha.)

Acaeris 04-13-2016 03:43 AM

Greetings, been watching for a bit, first post. What if the idea is the extend the colour separation logic to all colours? The problem with this is that the green and white cannot be separated though.

EJ Prime 04-13-2016 03:44 AM

Umm guys, have we ever seen this response before?

Pirfsich 04-13-2016 03:45 AM

Yep, this unlocked a piece of the puzzle.

EJ Prime 04-13-2016 03:46 AM

oh okay good because my phone just autocompleted that input and I thought I had accidentally cheated somehow lol

Connell 04-13-2016 03:48 AM

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Greetings, been watching for a bit, first post. What if the idea is the extend the colour separation logic to all colours? The problem with this is that the green and white cannot be separated though.

Welcome and thanks for joining the hunt!

EDIT: Damn I thought Pirfsich meant we'd unlocked this piece of the puzzle so I deleted loads of stuff thinking it was done. Haha. I'll endeavour to re-write what I wrote.

On the off chance we haven't got it right, part of the rules of the sun pieces is:

There will be times you see the sun puzzles paired with multicolored squares, which you would separate as normal in most cases. These multicolored squares are okay to share a space with the suns. If the suns are black or white, however, they can only occupy the same space as squares of the opposite color.

For example: black squares must be grouped with white suns, and white squares must be grouped with black suns.


Does this mean that the multicoloured suns can't be grouped with white or black squares? It doesn't state that, it just states that if suns are black or white, they have to be with their opposite coloured squares.

The full rules for the sun pieces can be found on this page, in case we missed anything. With regards to the circles, I think it would be quite unfair for them to insert a whole new mechanic without giving us the rules for it though:

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/the-witness/Puzzle_Types The sun rules are about halfway down.

(I think that's roughly what I wrote before)

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Umm guys, have we ever seen this response before?

Yeah, that's the response we got on the first day we found Ed's Twitter profile and we entered numbers found throughout his tweets. That's what first unlocked all the pieces to appear.

Pirfsich 04-13-2016 03:51 AM

EDIT: Oh wow, big misunderstanding there. I should quote the source, if I answer a question here, sorry!

Connell 04-13-2016 03:57 AM

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EDIT: Oh wow, big misunderstanding there. I should quote the source, if I answer a question here, sorry!

No worries, I do it all the time when I reply quickly! I should have clarified before getting excited :p

Acaeris 04-13-2016 04:10 AM

I think I've solved it bar separating the green and white pairing and the black and purple pairing that's impossible. I will add a picture of my solution in a sec.

Added. I don't have Twitter so someone else will need to send it.

Connell 04-13-2016 04:17 AM

It looks good but I think a stipulation of the sun pieces is they have to be separated into pairs at the minimum:

"Suns must be separated into pairs if they’re the same color, but can be grouped with other pairs of suns if they’re all different colors.

For example: in a 2x2 grid with four orange suns, two pairs of suns have to be separated by the line you draw. But in a 2x2 grid with two orange suns and two pink suns, it’s okay if all four share the same space. Just remember, the number of same-colored suns in the same space can’t exceed two."


So according to those rules, for all intents and purposes our suns can all inhabit the same space. The only possibly confusing part of the sun rules is the following part which I previously posted:

"There will be times you see the sun puzzles paired with multicolored squares, which you would separate as normal in most cases. These multicolored squares are okay to share a space with the suns. If the suns are black or white, however, they can only occupy the same space as squares of the opposite color.

For example: black squares must be grouped with white suns, and white squares must be grouped with black suns."


I don't know if that applies to our puzzle.

Acaeris 04-13-2016 04:21 AM

It's physically impossible to keep the two greens together while separating others without blocking your own path. So it's either one of the earlier solutions or that one.

... Oh wait.

What if the colour pairing is actually there through virtue of the ones it's impossible to separate (i.e. white with green and black with purple)?

... Still leaves us with the previous solutions or the one I have. *shrug*

Anyway, that's my lunch hour done so I'll keep for fingers crossed and check back later.

Xavier 04-13-2016 04:32 AM



You guys are missing the... tri?

I suggest you tri harder :tard:

Connell 04-13-2016 04:35 AM

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You guys are missing the... tri?

I suggest you tri harder :tard:

Ha, just saw that.. Something to do with 3?

EJ Prime 04-13-2016 04:40 AM

http://wordfinder.yourdictionary.com...that-start/TRI
List of words beginning with TRI

Connell 04-13-2016 04:44 AM

https://twitter.com/edmudokon/status/720231071250587650

Pirfsich 04-13-2016 04:47 AM

trigger?

ODDREN 04-13-2016 04:48 AM

He wrote TRI... with three dots.
It's TRIPLE, no?

Connell 04-13-2016 05:07 AM

It has to be triple or 3 of something, but how does that relate to the puzzle?

Perhaps there is 3 solutions, or 3 different puzzles? Triple grid...

Xavier 04-13-2016 05:12 AM

http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/ed/trigrid.png

Yay, it's been a wile since I found something :D

Connell 04-13-2016 05:14 AM

My phone doesn't like the URL so I'm going to embed it as an image: http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/ed/trigrid.png

Xavier 04-13-2016 05:19 AM

Fixed it for you

ODDREN 04-13-2016 05:19 AM

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http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/ed/trigrid.png

Yay, it's been a wile since I found something :D

As we say 'same egg, different angle' :)
So we have now IQ puzzle with triangle of certain color as an answer. And what it will be? Hint to another JPG link?
REDTRIANGLE?
BLUETRIANGLE?
GREENTRIANGLE?

Pirfsich 04-13-2016 05:56 AM

I put the RGB codes above the tris. Maybe you can find a pattern with multiplying/adding the single colors etc.

14250

IThoughtIHadAGoodJob 04-13-2016 06:03 AM

First off, I finally think I have a chance to contribute. You guys are way too good. :D

I took the trigrid into photoshop to check the codes on the colors. The only triangles that have identical colors are the green and purple ones, as indicated in my attached image. I noticed that both colors included "1029" in their code. The only other color to include "1029" is the reddish purple triangle (circled).

Not sure if this is even helpful, but hey...

Pirfsich 04-13-2016 06:08 AM

1029 is the number of the RuptureFarms factory and it has appeared throughout the ARG a few times, it could be a hint...

The Hexcode from the two colors are 291029 and 102910 and the red in the top right is 501029 if this is useful for any of you.

IThoughtIHadAGoodJob 04-13-2016 06:12 AM

been plugging in variations of all those numbers, as well as "Rupture Farms" into the message box and the soulstorm/ed/ url but haven't found anything yet :/

Xavier 04-13-2016 06:15 AM

Not sure where you guys found 1029 in those colors but remember this code was used to unlock the first Piece:
0451-1138-1029-2739

Two of those numbers weren't used elsewhere in the ARG. Maybe they help here?

Connell 04-13-2016 06:42 AM

Mr. Blow has to be fooling round with us:



Pirfsich 04-13-2016 06:44 AM

This counts as a double post, right? :D

He reacts way too eager to not be involved in this.

EJ Prime 04-13-2016 06:45 AM

Trigrid image with the RGB codes converted into hex codes

Connell 04-13-2016 07:15 AM

Is it possible the 2 puzzles interlink in some way? They both have the same amount of spaces / triangles. Perhaps it will give us some information about the red circles?

EDIT: Ed tweeted a solitary G earlier... A, B, C, D, E and F all appear at the start of the at least one HEX code for a colour on the grid. Is it possible our mystery triangle has G at the start? and then possibly some variation of 1029?

Xavier 04-13-2016 07:56 AM

There we go, wiki updated...

Acaeris 04-13-2016 08:44 AM

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Is it possible the 2 puzzles interlink in some way? They both have the same amount of spaces / triangles. Perhaps it will give us some information about the red circles?

EDIT: Ed tweeted a solitary G earlier... A, B, C, D, E and F all appear at the start of the at least one HEX code for a colour on the grid. Is it possible our mystery triangle has G at the start? and then possibly some variation of 1029?

No, it's not. HEX (base 16) doesn't go up to G because you only need 6 extra characters from base 10 (the A, B, C, D, E and F you mentioned)

Connell 04-13-2016 09:05 AM

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No, it's not. HEX (base 16) doesn't go up to G because you only need 6 extra characters from base 10 (the A, B, C, D, E and F you mentioned)

Thanks for clarifying. I have no knowledge of base 16.

Xavier 04-13-2016 09:53 AM

I think the "g" was to help us find trigrid.png. Well it was that tweet that made me find it anyway.

Paul 04-13-2016 10:36 AM

I don't think I would have solved any of this, its fascinating though :D