Well holy shit, what are the chances:

from your URL:

http://i.imgur.com/Q0ZU4MR.png

NA-ZZ-TSO-ZZ

http://i.imgur.com/tJf0Cnz.png

At what point do we say this isn't a coincidence?

I really hope I'm not pushing us the wrong route, even though we hardly have a route currently, but the way it's hyphened, along with the letter pairings is strikingly similar.

I must admit, I'm skeptical. It's such a random connection; how would they ever expect us to know that? (Of course, we have some extremely intelligent forum members! :p ) and still; what does it mean? neither /mouse nor /sheep are directories on the soulstorm/ed site, nor is na-as-tso-si

EDIT: all those inputs return generic responses from the message box also.

Just thought about going on the OWI site and seeing if they have a page dedicated to the natives and industrial like they used to, but alas nothing. Do we chalk this up as a very, very bizarre coincidence, or look deeper?

The only thing I can think of from "mouse sheep" is Meep. Ed is a Meep herder confirmed?

mouse+sheep=meep lol. I checked urls, MO's pages and other previous methods and there's nothing. Probably not the right path but funny coincidence and something to consider.

I feel weird at the thought of this being a coincidence. Maybe by tomorrow, Ed will make another tweet and we'll know if we were right?

Before we completely dispel the idea, it appears Navajo was used as a code in WWII... this might be worth further investigation...

http://teacherweb.ftl.pinecrest.edu/...II/navajo2.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_talker

Guys. The word for mouse is "NA-AS-TSO-SI". Double mouse is "NA-AS-TSO-SI-A-YE-DO-TISH", which means millimeter. I put the word millimeter in the search box and got "***DON'T BELIEVE THEIR LIES***" twice in a row. New clue or another generic answer?

So let's say that the Navajo theory is right, then Mouse and Sheep appear to be the words we received. This could lead us to Meep, but what do we do with this info?

The way the navajo code works is that the first letter of each navajo word's literal English translation forms a word, e.g: One way to say the word "Navy" in Navajo code would be "tsah (Needle) wol-la-chee (Ant) ah-keh-di- glini (Victor) tsah-ah-dzoh (Yucca)." NAVY.

So so far we have:

Dibeh (Sheep) and Na-as-tso-si (Mouse)

Which would give us M,S in a sequence (If they're using this in the same way the navajo code talkers did in WWII)

OR it's just a coincidence. Still a possibility. It just seems too coincidental that both phrases fit into a native language that was once used as a code.

Interestingly, they have a word for "Mud";

has-clish-nih

That is a known generic answer, however it might be worth clicking a few more times to see if it's specific to that response.

If this is all right it would explain the bzzz's and zz's because it was traditionally over radio.

It would explain why it didn't fit into any of the traditional methods of code we'd been using. I did speculate earlier they could be using a new cipher or code system, and that fits into that. So, it's a possibility we have our new basis for the codes.

But what do we do with it?

EDIT: I've found a website that you can enter things in Navajo code and it will spurt it out into any means imaginable (E.G Morse code, caesar cipher, binary) I'd hazard a guess the guys behind the ARG have been using a similar tool.

You have to input the Navajo code in all capitals for it to function.

http://cryptii.com/navajo/select

The fact that a website even exists that allows for Navajo to be used alongside binary and morse and caesar cipher would say to me that (with a bit of hesitation) we've found our next code system.

IIRC, Lorne was at least partly inspired by some Native American tribes when designing the muds and the Grubbs, so it's not entirely unsurprising that the ARG would utilise Navajo.

With respect to Mouse and Sheep - it's possible that they're not meant to be comined into Meep, but rather are a reference to Ratz and Meep.

Also, what happened to the idea of each puzzle having its own thread?

Good idea Nate. Piece 3 now has its own thread.

Edit: Ed just tweeted KLIZZIE which gives G with the Navajo cypher.

https://twitter.com/edmudokon/status...727796736?s=09

We now have S M G with the Navajo code but I think the dashes, stars and bzz are meaningful as well

What about putting SMG or Meep in the little box on the soulstorm site?

I agree. I definitely now think the Navajo code is the right cipher to be using, however I believe the bzz's and the asterisks are the key on how to implement it. There seems to be a specific amount of buzzing in each tweet. I still feel like this puzzle may have potentially been solvable from the first tweet about dibeh, given that the box changed to a "?" on the site.

EDIT: Navajo has words that mean "STAR", "TWO STARS", (the asterisks) "LINE" (the hyphen) and "INTERFERE" (the buzzing?) I don't feel confident about that being their intention, as the "Na-sa-tso-si" tweet used ZZ's to obscure standard letters. I just thought it was worth potentially noting.

Both appear to return generic responses.

EDIT: On a side note, I believe there's been 21 scrub photos submitted to OWI. Nearly there guys!

What about the word Klizzie?

It literally translates to English as Goat, and was used in the Navajo code to represent the letter G.

I'm wondering why most of the navajo translations are animals. Is Ed trying to hint on something related to the oddworld fauna?

I was thinking that, but I think it's more likely it's the letters we should be focussing on. The code was originally all about using random Navajo words like Goat, which would sound weird to people listening in, but you took the first letter of it to form a phrase.

I think most of the Navajo translations in general are animals because, well, it's a native language, native cultures pretty much are based around nature and animals (not to generalize). So that's their frame of reference. Besides, in Oddworld cannon there are no Goats, nor anything I can think of like it.

Anyone have any idea for the bzzz sections? I've been bashing my head over it all morning.

The only thing that pops to mind are bees xD

Which remind me of Elum and his honey problem:

From the Wikia:

I wonder if Ed likes honey? :p

Nice find on the Navajo clues! I was stuck trying morse code and anagrams for ages, which must be wrong- but even if sheer coincidence, still got something interesting.

Ed's tweets I looked at were;

bzzbzzzzz* ** - dibeh -

I took the bzzbzzzzz to represent morse code, .- or 'A'.
Then, the '. .. - dibeh -' to represent E I T dibeh T

So overall letters being a,e,i,t,d,i,b,e,h,t

For the 'na-zz-tso-zz' tweet, I assumed the '-zz-' indicated blank letters, so na_tso_. This gave nothing, but in reverse is _ost_an. I put this through a crossword solver and the only result was 'postman', so I added these letters to the sequence from the previous tweet, which gave;

a,e,i,t,d,i,b,e,h,t,p,o,s,t,m,a,n

So as I said, I was playing with anagrams for various relevant words and noticed the 'banished to' someone mentioned some posts back. But here's the funny thing- you can rearrange this sequence, using every single letter once, into 'mate banished to pit'

So there I was assuming 'pit' was referring to the Necrum mine, and that there's another mudokon other than Ed to discover. Oh well never mind! :goof:

na-as-tso-si - -

— ed (@edmudokon) April 8, 2016

Finally another clue from Ed. Still baffled. So it definitely is Na-as-tso-si, but what about the hyphens? Does this indicate that they are unaware that we figured out the Navajo code, or that the hyphens are important to the other tweets. This one's getting a bit crazy for me, I can't see a pattern in the hypen and asterisks placements in the tweets.

Posts that contain these "bzzbzzzzz* **" sequences gave us Navajo words that can be extended with "-yazzi". This alters SMG to LMK.
(We aren't really closer, but it may help...)

Well noticed. I wonder if that is what they were trying to point out?

Well, by highlighting the only one that can't be interpreted in multiple ways they might be trying to hint us. But this whole SMG and LMK thing doesn't really make any sense to me..

Edit:
This might be interesting:

na-zz-tso-zz = M
- dibeh - = O L L
- - klizzie = U C K

But it's just playing with letters.

Is it possible the bzzz's are Navajo words that got lost whilst he was sending them to us, and the amount of letters is accurate, with the asterisks representing how many hyphens there are. E.G:

bzzbzzzzz* ** - dibeh -

— ed (@edmudokon) April 7, 2016

This Navajo word would have 9 letters, and 3 hyphens at various places

Believe it or not, the only Navajo word in the standard alphabet that fits this bill is... Na-as-tso-si, which we know gives the letter M The next tweet:

bzbzzbzbzzz**- - klizzie

— ed (@edmudokon) April 8, 2016

11 characters with 2 hyphens, again only one word that fits that bill this time it's NASH-DOIE-TSO which gives the letter L, as it's literal translation is Lion. Hopefully it's not a coincidence that there are only 2 Navajo words that fit those bills. And it still doesn't explain what the hyphens in the actual tweets are doing.

EDIT: I think this is a coincidence. It still produces gibberish, as the full string of letters from all his tweets in order would be msmlgm which doesn't produce anything from any methods.

OK, I think I’ve got it!

We have three Navajo words confirmed: dibeh, klizzie, and na-as-tso-si. We’ve also had four tweets in various configurations. If we look at them all:

This was our first hint towards the use of Navajo. Also note the placement of the asterisks, the dashes and the buzzing.

This is obviously an obscured na-as-tso-si.

Asterisks and dashes again in a similar arrangement to previous. We also get our second clear Navajo word.

There’s those dashes again, and the unobscured Navajo.

I think that this is all supposed to be one string that’s been broken up into several messages, with different parts missing or obscured each time. I think the punctuation is meant to hint at the placement of each word in the full message.

In two cases, we have one long obscured part followed by two asterisks, and then followed by two dashes. In one case, there’s a word between the dashes, and in another there’s a word after the dashes.

Now look at the second obscured component (bzbzzbzbzzz). If we assume each buzz is a syllable, then this matches the number of syllables in na-as-tso-si. I think these are one and the same.

I think the full unobscured message is meant to be:

na-as-tso-si ** - dibeh - klizzie

Ignore the punctuation, and we have:

M S G

Aaaand here’s where it leads: http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/ed/msg.jpg

Edit: I’m pretty sure the green symbols are a jigsaw of some sort, stitching them together now to see what comes out.

Amazing work Manco :D Now, what do we do with the photo!

To think we only had 1 letter switched around. I even realised in my last post that the initial tweet's "bzzbzzzzz" had the same amount of letters as na-as-tso-si. That was such a bizarre way for them to communicate the order in. I think I must have tried smg.jpg and mgs.jpg and mgms.jpg about 100 times, but not that. Ha, so close! Glad we're getting somewhere.

EDIT: It looks a bit like a pigpen cipher, something I came across researching Navajo.

https://lobestir.files.wordpress.com...-pen-lower.png

Okay, I might be completely off, but the picture kind of looks like it has some sort of visual Morse code in it. The dashes, the slashes, and the dots sort of resemble it, but I tried decoding it and... Well, I'm just awful at decoding Morse. I notice there seems to be two kinds of dots, though.

Dash: -, Slash: /, Dot: ., Long Dot: ;

- / ;;-;
/ . .. . / . .. ..
--- / -- (Looks upside down?)
>;. ;;; > ; ;; ;;.
>; .. . > . .. ..
/ ---/ (Upside down)

Both of the upside down ones have the dashes and slashes changed, so maybe it's supposed to be read backwards?

Edit: Literally in the time writing this someone else figured it out. XD

Here’s how the stitched together version appears:



Edit: If it’s pigpen then I make it out as:

T O G E T H E R

Edit2: Clearer version:

Is that "> E (something) O > N O F" ?

Wait I think it is pigpen, which would be TOGETHER

EDIT: Manco you speedy shit. Ed also Tweeted "Together" yesterday. Together with what?

soz double post again plz dnt infract meh

We’ve had “together” before:

t́o̗͞g̛e̴̤̝̻̗̤t̵̫͔̗̦h̢̫̲̩̞̖̰e̖ͅͅr̴͇

— ed (@edmudokon) April 6, 2016

So what does it mean?

TA-BILH is the Navajo word for together. Doesn't come up as a .jpeg on the site though.

EDIT: The picture bears a striking resemblance to Ed's profile picture? Perhaps we have to combine them "together"?

Just tried the profile picture but it doesn't seem to display anything. But perhaps it is combining images?

Together has been mentioned a few times by Ed, it was previously assumed he was referring to working together to get the screenshots:

maybe we have to work together. we need more.

— ed (@edmudokon) April 5, 2016

Does this have another meaning that we aren’t seeing, or was this just a diversion while we wait on enough screenshots coming in?

notice the numbers
14 15 19 19 10 16
in the picture

EDIT : (or maybe the first is 415 and 3 at the end)

Where abouts are they? I can't see them.

I don’t see any numbers, can you point them out?

Edit: Keen eye rzil! They’re on the left of the grey horizontal bar in the middle.