I was pretty aware of that. You've been rather dickish as of late.

You only joined last month, what counts as "late"?

Well, you apparently thought my first Stranger picture was "badass", but I guess that was just an off day for you. Or it was sarcasm and I was too dumb to pick up on it.

Nepsotic is a nice guy, in fact (liberal and really buying the darker AEHD thing).

Somebody can't take a joke.

See, now I know you're trolling.

Were you joking, or being a dick? Make up your mind and then I'll react.

What do you think?

Hm...a little o' column A, a lot o' column B?

FennecFyre, Nepsotic is only a poseur.

Guys stop being cunts.

Potoogirl, this is very good arts, your expressions are pretty damn g-rEEh

See STM couldn't even finish his sentence.

Yeah, that might work out for people in OT, but not so much here. Those rare people who come up with an idea for an artistic piece and put effort into realizing it generally expect feedback, either positive or negative, but constructive all the same. Generic banter isn't really done here.

Fennec, try not to take any of it too seriously. This is basically the core attitude on OWF nowadays, which I find pretty sad (it doesn't really create a good image of a community gathered around a game they all like), but the majority consider it a camaraderie of sorts. Don't be discouraged from continuing making art (the pieces you shared before are pretty incredible) and sharing them here.

I'll be honest. When I first saw these lines, I found them a bit... condescending, maybe? But after that, I saw how it was elaborated upon and how everyone was very grown-up and receptive for the criticism SB provided, followed by further tips from others. So I'm kind of proud of all of you right now.

I will admit that I probably shouldn't have risen to the bait. No harm done.

And yeah I like a pat on the head as much as the next person, but if anyone sees ways that I can improve, don't hesitate to tell me. This is what I want to do for a living after all, so I'll need to get better and grow a thick skin sooner or later.

Doing an Oddworld-related art trade with someone on dA, they had me do their steef cub FC and some fuzzles:
Mostly looking for feedback on the lines and shading on this one, I'm not sure if I like it or not. Yes I completely half-assed the background.

E: @Vlam Thanks for the posrep but it's a girl steef so it's kinda supposed to be effeminate.

D'AWWWWWWWWWW

This art is pretty good! I found the criticisms put forwards by Slog Bait and Vyrien to be particularly helpful for my own work. I hadn't ever heard the term "chicken scratching" but it's definitely an artistic flaw of mine. It's great to see your art improve from picture to picture, Abe in the latter comic looks much more "mudokon" than the mudokons you'd drawn previously, keep up the good work!

Alright, so, this one took me a while to form a cohesive critique mostly because im distracted

The lines are still weak, HOWEVER, they're already looking better than they did when you started this thread. So, you're heading in the right direction and there's not much I can say for the time being except for: keep experimenting. This picture looks like it should have either had thicker lines with varying line weights, or should have been completely "lineless" with a heavier emphasis on form and textures.

You know those really annoying sphere and cube and what not practice paintings and drawings etc? The ones with a heavy focus on the values along it's form? Do those. Lots of those. Do one from life, do one from a flat reference outlining what values would go where, do two from different light sources, then do a bunch from memory until it's beat into your brain.

And I definitely would like to see a couple pieces from you focusing entirely on lineart. I don't just mean an outline of a figure, I mean using lines to tell the story behind the picture. Give the lines a life of their own. Make them bold, but not blocky. Try to focus on one of those before the other but have fun with it because I can tell you really want to improve and I KNOW if you keep on how you're going you'll have work of a high enough quality to consider yourself a professional illustrator.

No, that wasn't flattery nor was it an exaggeration. I've seen people at half your skill level turn into amazing artists and illustrators within months.

You definitely need to learn how to handle fabric, and the steef's facial expression is a little disappointing given your previous steef facial expressions. It falls flat, the steef looks like their gazing aimlessly instead of at the sky/the fuzzle on it's head like I pressume you wanted. I think some clouds or "birds" in the distance would have helped populate the image a little more.

The fuzzle on the right side of the swing looks squashed, and the swing looks like it's floating. Magical swings? Hell yes. It would have been more effective if you had shown tree branches coming in from some direction, or more trees in the background, or even half ass playground equipment, etc... There are loads of ways that problem can be remedied.

Digressing to form again, I'm noticing you're shying away from using dark-darks and light-lights. Don't be afraid to go all out with shading. Just remember, no matter what, you can always fix your mistakes with art. Period. Get really dark where a figure should be casting a shadow, or where light wouldn't be touching at all. Get really bright (not in this specific picture lmao) where the light is hitting an object head on.

Also, a fun fact you'll learn when you study form: Shadows are usually highly saturated and contain the complimentary colour of the objects main colour. I'm noticing for the most part you're keeping things about the same level of saturation all throughout. I can see some slight variation in the colours used, but it's not enough to give a "natural" feel.

I think that's it for now. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

Thanks as always, Slog! Good advice.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/449a0ec4...1cxo1_1280.png
Conspirators conspiring.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/659e870c7...1cxo1_1280.png
Stranger demonstrates the ancient and venerable art of BEATING A MOTHERFUCKER WITH ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKER.

Uhm, wow that is... that's happening O:

The problem with the Steef: it looks "static".

One day I'll be able to draw action poses well. Today isn't that day.

Yeah I can't stand those still drawings.

Yeah, I really like the poses of the characters except Stranger. Stranger himself looks a bit off

What you’re missing from those drawings is a sense of motion and weight. You communicate this by creating a flow in your figures’ poses – the technique is often referred to as a ‘line of action’.

http://i.imgur.com/tNDXdXf.jpg

You're all right, Stranger came out looking a bit stiff. I was using the original meme image as a reference, but I definitely could have exaggerated it a bit more.

Thanks for the tip, Manco!

What's the original meme behind this?

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...therfucker.jpg

I thought it was funny.

I think it would benefit your artwork, if you redrew just the Stranger's left arm. It's not exactly like it is on the photo, where it works with the curve rather than against it.

I mean this:

http://i.imgur.com/v8K8aGH.png

That arm seems to have bolder lines, I'm guessing you did notice something was off about it, right? :)

That arm actually was giving me quite a bit of trouble, as a matter of fact. I think I put the outlaw's ankle too far away from Stranger's head (compare it with the original picture), so I had to stretch his arm out and mangle his wrist a bit to make up for it. The bolder lines were an attempt to help the arm stand out from the body behind it.

I don't know if I'll have time to redraw this any time soon, but thank you for the advice, and I'll pay more attention to action lines next time!

Next time just draw a decapitated steef. No arms; no problem.

Do you mean amputated

Maybe he means just drawing the head.

The head should be more tilted back.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/b96febc3...s1cxo1_540.png
The first of several stupid fanspecies.

The slox is cousin to the sleg and slog, though smaller in size than both. It is a nocturnal scavenger, subsisting off anything it can find, and compensates for a lack of brute strength and bite power with speed and agility. Like slogs, they lack optic organs, but have well-developed senses of smell and hearing, as well as primitive heat receptors along their jaws. Sloxes are generally solitary, and usually not regarded as a threat unless one is injured, drunk, or both, but in the rare occasions they band together, they can become dangerously clever pack hunters.

Sloxes are commonly found in the Mongo Valley, where they frequently hunt creatures such as chippunks, fuzzles, and thudslugs, and raid the garbage dumps of settlers and outlaws alike.

Cool stuff! :)
I see there are a lot of critics in this forum.
One simple tip I can give is to mirror your image every so often. It's a wonder how quickly your eye gets used to an image and you don't notice things.

Fennec's stuff was awesome, luv the Stranger and lady steef! And I too want that mug. Aside from the aruing and criticism I
Learned a lot in this forum, I free hand some and also have trouble with smooth and natural movement

Thanks, Guinea and Gunnr!
http://67.media.tumblr.com/7835e01c4...1cxo1_1280.jpg
Need opinions/feedback real quick. Does this look like Stranger at all to you guys? I wanted to bring out his face markings a bit while keeping to his original color scheme, but I'm not sure if I succeeded. Official art is there for comparison (and for luls because he looks utterly disgusted with what I've drawn).

Stranger has more muscles.

In terms of color scheme , I meant.