I don't really mind what they make, as long as they make something.

What about an Abe statue crafted from faecal matter?

I give a big thumbs up to that.

I was about to choose Stranger's Wrath 2 because I still want to know what happens after the ending (fucking Sekto got away) but in the end I went for Squeek's Oddysee. I want to see the damn quintology finished!

I'm pretty sure if anything is picked that's not AE HD the next game they make has the potential to be Dark N' Edgy. It all depends on how they go about it.

I ended up picking Sligstorm because I've always liked the idea for its storyline. It has the potential to be something amazing and unlike ME, SO, or AE HD, you won't have to play any previous installments to understand everything that might happen in game. It'll probably end up being like SW (in terms of an offshoot storyline) except set in a more familiar (or as close to familiar as you can fucking get in these games) part of the world.

It can give us a chance to explore more of the industrial side of Oddworld in a way AO, AE, and MO couldn't. With each new game we're pretty much guaranteed new content. With Sligstorm I also feel like it will catch more peoples' attention. You can have the dark and edgy and it work for the story that's being told, and considering the plot? Yeah, I can't see it being advertised as anything but dark and edgy.

And I'm pretty sure it would end up having a lot of elements that stood out in the first few games that gave Oddworld it's charm. If they chose to go 2.5D I see it playing similar to however New 'N' Tasty will, but if they go the full 3D route I can see it alternating between 3rd and 1st person like in SW but I don't think there will be nearly as much platforming unless they introduce a way for sligs to jump or the main character learns to climb. Plenty of sneaking around regardless. Don't want to get culled.

Also sligs are really cool and fun to play as and I'm totally biased because of it

It'd be interesting to see just about anything that isn't a remake, really. Especially because Lorne is still on board and it isn't just some random company picking up the franchise.

I can live with an Exoddus remake, but only if it expands the story and tests certain technologies (say, completely remake the cutscenes as an experience foundation for new games).

Even before we've seen new old things though? That's what fans have been waiting a decade for.

Not really.... fans want what they want. When people say "Oddworld" they think Abe, ect. Oddworld is the Oddworld games, not some game that doesn't even have 'Oddworld' in the title. Let's be fair, Stranger's Wrath was new and that practically killed off the Oddworld series for a decade. I'm not saying Stranger's Wrath was the cause of Oddworld being killed off. But after the unsuccess of Munch's Oddysee they shouldn't have made a 'new' game, they should've recovered by making another Abe Oddworld game.

You're the one who needs to fuck off. Go start another forum called the 'Fangus Klott Forum' (that has a nice ring to it) Oddworld needs Abe and/or Munch sequels. That's what the fans have been waiting for for years. Not some stupid game that's hardly and Oddworld game. Fangus Klott isn't Oddworld, I think you need to accept that. If you're not already interested in the universe of Oddworld why are you here? If you want to play some 'dark and realistic game' or whatever it is then go play Call Of Duty.

I agree with other people that Munch should be given another chance. Sure, MO wasn't the best game. But that deosn't mean Munch isn't a good character, we've barely seen him, and the reason people think Munch is a bad character is because of his first game.

Agreed.

So are you dissapointed that they've made SW HD, MO HD and are making Abe NNT?

The fans have been waiting a decade for a new installment to the series, not remakes of the old things.

They didn't want to start seeing the old things UNTIL HD remakes started happening. If OWI and JAW want to move Oddworld forward, they need to take the time to start making something new rather than focusing entirely on remakes. Luckily, the only thing left to remake after AO is AE, so even if they go with the popular vote and just make AE HD next, we know they're going to start working on something new immediately afterwards.

I, personally, can wait on AE HD because I want something new.

Nostalgia is nice and all, but there is a point where it gets to be too much.

We can sum up Pupbuddy's post as follows:

God, Abe fanboys piss me off. If the Oddworld universe was limited to Abe, and all new games featured Abe I would become very bored. He's a great character, sure, but he isn't what makes Oddworld.

I get more the impression of:

Now you guys are just being gross.

That's what I'm saying. I want installments to the series. I don't want some Fangus Klott game, that's not part of the series. Read what I'm saying and responding to before making a comment like that.

Not really.... Read what I am saying and responding to before trying to be a funny man. I don't think my opinion is the best, unlike most people on the Oddworld Forums, I just want to continue with the proper Oddworld games, the Quintology, ect. Not waste time with this Fangus Klott.

I'm not an "Abe fanboy" as you so put it. In fact I seem to be one of the only ones here who like mUnch, so don't tell me that Oddworld is limited to Abe. I just want to progress with the Quintology not waste even more time making some Fangus Klott thing, that has hardly anything to do with Oddworld.

Read what I am saying and responding to before making a comment please.

Uh huh. :P

P.S. Sorry for double posting, I was going to edit my previous post and paste this in but I forgot and pressed 'Send.'

To keep this on an Oddworld topic, what next?

Munch's Exxodus, Hand Of Odd, SligStorm or Squeeks Oddysee?

Out of those what would people decide?

I did read your post??

It's very vague and what I got out of it was "WANT MORE HD REMAKES".

No, that'd be stupid, there's only one more game to make a HD remake. :P

I'm saying I don't want to waste time on Fangus Klott and want to get straight on with the Quintology, ect.

EDIT: I see where you got that impression now. When I said "new old things". What I meant by that was because Fangus Klott would be considered "new" so Abe, Munch would be considered "old" so I meant I wanted "new old things" as in new things of Abe and the Quintology, ect.

Both of your points are correct. I'd like Exoddus HD, however.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Like, really?
I'm sure you're an expert on Oddworld's financial crisis.
He was hardly a character, he was basically just a copy/paste of Abe, but ten times as annoying.

Like STM said, they'll already have most of the assets required. Plus, I think redoing the first few games is a great way to get the series back up in it's feet.

Okay man, everyone have its own opinion but honestly - blaming Fangus Klot and calling it "some game" is uber-ignorance.
Look at Stranger's Wrath. Seriously? THAT game made Oddworld Series back on good path. What Im saying is that completely new titles - spinoffs are sometimes key to make series better. Fangus could be the same in terms of making Oddworld a little bit more mature after too much humour. Oddworld is (as we know) mega-big as planet. If games in that universe are sometimes funny and more humoristic - series should have also more dark-mature titles to be enjoyable for more people. And, what is most important - Oddworld have that possibilities.

I can't vote because Fangus isn't up there.

The more I think about it, the more I realize I'm way more interested in spinoffs than I am in the quintology. The Abe games were good but I don't really care for knowing much about it after MO? SO or ME might change my mind, but that's to be seen.

Why people are interested in other stories than quintology? Because Oddworld is so big - only your imagination is the limit. And, what was nice surprise - Stranger proved that spinoffs can also be good as stand-alone titles without Abe or Munch and make Oddworld Series more interesting and mysterious. After (for example) Stranger - you start to think what else is going on Odd planet and what stories are going to be told.

i'm indifferent to those 3 cos it's unlikely i'll ever play any of them. the versions of each released by OWI still work fine for me. (though in fairness playing the abe remake will be tempting, even if i reckon i'd get bored of it in like 10 minutes)

if there was the initial option of doing something new (such as squeek's oddysee or munch's exoddus) then of course i'd be disappointed that they chose ports and HDisations and remakes, but new stuff wasn't really on the table.
It is on the table now though, and it'd be totally lame if the opportunity was lost so they could retread old ground

I voted for Munch because I just fucking want to see Abe's story continued already.

Sligstorm is second to last

This saddens me greatly.

I was shocked to learn that people actually voted for mobile games.

Bear in mind Sligstorm has even less information about it floating around the Internet than Fangus. Fangus has some screenshots and early animation tests, plus a magazine entry or two. Sligstorm has even less.

Re: the Fangus debacle on the last page, I chose Fangus as my preference for the next game because I feel it's a really interesting concept that, like Stranger, would fit into the Oddworld series while approaching with a unique take on a genre - I want to see how Oddworld interprets Eastern European culture and incorporates a character driven mad by rabies into that world.

The Quintology is the core story of Oddworld, but it is far from the only story. I think of all the Quintology games deserve the largest budget/teams/development to really craft something that tells that story in the best manner possible, and I think it's worth waiting for Lorne's self-funding ideas to fully develop before they do that.

Something Phylum mentioned before was that a small team couldn't make a game with the necessary visuals. I think to an extent he's underestimating how well a small team can execute unique aesthetics, but if you take his point to refer more to the size and scope of a Quintology game his comment makes more sense. Side projects like Fangus are a great place to explore smaller (but no less interesting) stories and environments while playing with tech and game design on a smaller level - they've mentioned bringing the Stranger engine up to date to build games with, for example.

I want to see Fangus first, because I like the smaller stories and because I want to see the Quintology return with all the fireworks they can throw at it.

Dem iPads man, dem iPads...

Logically AE :HD would be the way to go for them. As they will know what to do and will have a really set up base game to grow from. I wish I could tick very box, but realistically AE HD will be the next thing I see coming. Now, I would love a slig storm or fangus Klott game as much as the next, but the fact they are showing this means that JAW are open to these titles and are willing to make them. So, either way, what ever comes out, i will be buying. The more moolah they get, the more games they will make. Wrap up the old then publish the new.

I do see these titles seeing the light, and I'm certain they will come out in the future. Plus, when new n tasty comes out, we will be giving them a butt load of feedback so they can focus on what we want and make better games in the future.

I think something new is needed in between New 'n' Tasty and an AE remake. While I voted for Munch's Exoddus, I'm starting to think Sligstorm might be a better idea for a next project.
Reason being, it doesn't -seem- as large a project as something like ME, or Fangus, or HoO. In my head it seems like a game that would play similarly to AO or AE. And, if that were the case, they might be able to use the same engine they already have running for New 'n' Tasty.

This is all just a result of speculation into what kind of game Sligstorm would be, though. If we're talking about what I actually want to play next, it's Munch's Exoddus for sure.

If they do sligstorm I'd love to see it reimagined in 3D and moved away from the AO style game. When I was writing a slig-based game in Java similar to AO/AO and I encountered the serious problem of fucking boring levels.

Well, that and inexperience with more complicated projects.

And data loss, which eventually killed the project :(

Sligstorm would probably be dull in 2D. It would at least need to be significantly different from the style of gameplay in AO/AE to be fun.

Why do you say that? We barely know anything about it.

Yeah, because AO and AE were boring with a stupid level design in 2D. Good thing we got MO :)

Not to mention, the sound design was awful.

Stranger's Wrath didn't really get Oddworld back on a good track, becasue it left the Quintology, which is what people wanted to see, especially after Munch's Oddysee. I want to see more of the Quintology, which is what fans have been awaiting a decade for. Something new and interesting. Why, at the first opportunity to finally do something new for Oddworld, would people want to see a brand new game? The Oddworld series is the Quintology mainly. The spin-off games are good, but we should see more of the Quintology first. (Also, I'm not blaming Fangus Klott for anything. :P And compared to the original Oddworld games which loads of people know, they'd probably see a game called 'The Brutal Ballad Of Fangus Klott' and think that it is "some game". That's what I meant.)

That's what I mean. I think that they should do a bit of the core story of Oddworld first and then do spin-offs if they want. :)

You're talking like the fans are the only people that OWI/JAW need to cater towards. They know we're going to buy their games, therefore they need to make their decisions based on what's going to attract people who haven't played an Oddworld game before.

I'm a fan but I won't buy it just because it's Oddworld. It's a shitty approach to think that we'd buy their games even if they're not very good, just because we're fans

We knew that originally it was going to be using the ALIVE engine and use similar gameplay to AO/AE, right? A character that can't jump in a 2D cinematic platformer is limiting. I've personally played around with ideas as to how to make something like that interesting, but I just couldn't do it.

Pup, I don't quite understand what you're saying. Do you mean that OWI shouldn't have made SW and focused on the Quintology instead?

I think Pup means he wants to see the quintology finished before any more spinoff games are made.

I'm glad someone else saw the drawbacks of having a character that can't jump in a 2D environment, I assumed you'd have to use helipants and teleporters to get anywhere.

It may have been able to jump. Just because they can't jump in AO/AE doesn't mean they can't jump altogether.

They (OWI) can always rename a game (for example - Oddworld: Fangustan, which sounds really nice and mysterious too). They need to attract more people, because at this moment, many people love Oddworld because they played Strager which is great game and expands universe. Expanding is evolution. Without Stranger (its only example) many people will not know about Abe. Look at the every side of medal Pup. Quintology is quintology and have tousands of fans. Oddworld need more of them attracting by the good quality games - look at the Fangus. It could be good or even better movement than Stranger game couple years ago.