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MeechMunchie 09-15-2012 04:01 AM

I might actually be in a production of that. If I get in, I put 40% of my success down to my sideburns.

STM 09-15-2012 06:54 AM

If I got to choose the apocalypse, like if there was a big apocalyptic spinner. I'd make it land on 'zombie'. I like that scenario the most. If the world is going to be destroyed, there should be zombies.

Mr. Bungle 09-15-2012 08:57 AM

I agree. And since I live in the middle of Buttfuck Nowhere, Ontario, I should be able to fend of zombies for quite some time.

Bullet Magnet 09-15-2012 09:39 AM

Until the great undead snake of Toronto's main infestation worms its way up to you.

Mr. Bungle 09-15-2012 09:41 AM

I live nearly 6 hours from Toronto, 10 minutes outside a town with a population of under 1,000, out in the boonies.

So hopefully any zombies from Toronto would simply drop dead from hunger before they get to me.

STM 09-15-2012 09:55 AM

Zombies would probably radiate from the cities so it'd be a few days or weeks before you got hit I guess. I live too close to London, I reckon I'd have three days.

Bullet Magnet 09-15-2012 10:01 AM

Once everyone realised that zombies are dead with no body heat of their own, they'll head north.

Canada will be inundated with millions of American refugees, and they'll bring the infection with them.

The zombies will freeze in winter. And then so will everyone else.

STM 09-15-2012 01:02 PM

Do viruses die at sub-zero temperatures?

Bullet Magnet 09-15-2012 02:01 PM

Technically they can't die at all on account of not being alive. But no, they don't. In fact they seem to be more structurally stable at cooler temperatures, though that may vary with species. The freeze-thaw process of water can destroy them, and the more times it occurs, the more are destroyed.

In fact, the avian flu cycle may be perpetuated by virus particles released during the spring thaw. And ancient viruses may wait in permanently frozen water such as the most northerly lakes. They might be released by global warming. We can only hope that the fact that hardly anyone lives near them keeps such strains contained.

STM 09-15-2012 02:05 PM

Oh, that reminds me. Since many scientists debate that viruses are or aren't alive, I heard there was a theory that they were a form of extra-terrestrial life. What do you think about that? It's something I've wanted your opinion on for weeks. Also, why don't you classify viruses as living?

Mrs Nerg...

Bullet Magnet 09-15-2012 02:39 PM

They are no more alive than a computer virus is an operating system. It's just a pre-packaged piece of genetic code that hacks the protein synthesis function of a cell and forces it to make more virus particles, destroying them in the process. Many infect particular cells so that the body's immune response and/or normal processes facilitate distribution to other hosts.

But without living cells they are nothing but inert protein capsules.


I don't know anything about them being extra-terrestrial, or what would motivate someone into adopting such a position. Seems unlikely to me.

STM 09-15-2012 02:42 PM

But surely, the fact that viruses have to infect a host to survive is some proof of their living state? Also, don't viruses evolve? That was one of the real fears about H1N1, that it would evolve into something altogether more lethal. I think they're fascinating to be entirely honest, I should really read up some more on them.

MeechMunchie 09-15-2012 05:09 PM

They're not alive. They can't reproduce on their own, and the ability to reproduce is what seperates lichens from rocks.

STM 09-15-2012 05:41 PM

You've obviously never met my pet rock.

Havoc 09-15-2012 06:15 PM

We're a virus and we're alive, aren't we? Rep to whoever gets the movie reference and quotes it correctly (I trust you not to cheat).

Nate 09-15-2012 06:36 PM

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We're a virus and we're alive, aren't we? Rep to whoever gets the movie reference and quotes it correctly (I trust you not to cheat).

Jeez, man. You really think anyone wouldn't recognise a Matrix reference?




The issue with deciding whether viruses are alive is that you first have to define 'life'.

Havoc 09-15-2012 06:37 PM

No quote, no rep!

Nate 09-15-2012 06:45 PM

I don't want your rep. I prefer to mock your reference than to play your game.

Havoc 09-15-2012 07:25 PM

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Mac Sirloin 09-15-2012 08:14 PM

Big spiders.

Lots of big-ass, angry spiders.

Steamer_KING 09-15-2012 08:21 PM

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If I got to choose the apocalypse, like if there was a big apocalyptic spinner. I'd make it land on 'zombie'. I like that scenario the most. If the world is going to be destroyed, there should be zombies.

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Zombies would probably radiate from the cities so it'd be a few days or weeks before you got hit I guess. I live too close to London, I reckon I'd have three days.

Shaun of The Dead, I see...Great reference.

Mac Sirloin 09-15-2012 08:29 PM

The Chinese.

Big-ass, pissed off Chinese people. With a lot of speedboats.

Manco 09-16-2012 02:40 AM

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Big spiders.

Lots of big-ass, angry spiders.

If this comes to pass I will find you in the afterlife and be really awkward about it.

STM 09-16-2012 04:04 AM

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The Chinese.

Big-ass, pissed off Chinese people. With a lot of speedboats.

I think you mean, tiny, pissed of Chinese people.

Crashpunk 09-16-2012 02:37 PM

I'm Racist and I found that Chinese.

Nepsotic 09-20-2012 04:30 AM

I don't get it.

Mac Sirloin 09-27-2012 10:14 AM

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If this comes to pass I will find you in the afterlife and be really awkward about it.

I'll just shrug and start into a coughing fit so I won't have to explain my prediction.

Fluff [: 10-07-2012 05:47 PM

I believe the world will end when someone divides by zero.

Bullet Magnet 10-08-2012 01:35 AM

I wonder who actually understands what that means or where the apocalyptic associations come from?

Nepsotic 10-08-2012 03:08 AM

The something calendar, I can't remember what it's called.

Bullet Magnet 10-08-2012 08:04 AM

In the Swartzchild solution, which describes the spacetime outside of a sphere of matter and also a black hold in a matter-free universe, r is the distance from the center of the sphere/black hole.

ds2 = −(1 − 2M/r) dt2 + 1/(1 − 2M/r) dr2 + r2 dΩ2.

As r gets smaller the equation gets closer to infinity. At r=0 it reaches it. Or not, since it's usually considered to be undefined. But in a black hole, r=0 is the singularity. That is where the laws of physics as we understand them break down, because our only way of describing it returns as a divide by zero error.

Nepsotic 10-08-2012 10:39 AM

You know the theory, that the universe is still growing and that one day it'll pull itself back in and cause the big crunch?

That ain't gonna happen. Behold, DARK MATTER!

This has something to do with it, right?

Ah, the MAYAN calendar, that's it.

Bullet Magnet 10-08-2012 01:41 PM

Big Crunch seems very unlikely at this juncture. Not enough gravity.

Nepsotic 10-08-2012 01:55 PM

No, it's proven to be impossible. Behold, DARK MATTER!

Bullet Magnet 10-08-2012 02:19 PM

Like I said, unlikely. The might have missed a vital clue that reveals the truth of it, but I don't expect so.

MeechMunchie 10-08-2012 02:55 PM

Sorry, I can't hear you because of all the DARK MATTER

Bullet Magnet 10-08-2012 03:07 PM

Stop saying dark matter.

Nepsotic 10-08-2012 05:39 PM

You know what dark matter is, right, BM?

Hulaabeo 10-09-2012 02:46 AM

Isn't that stuff that supposedly makes up the unaccounted mass in the universe? ._.

Nate 10-09-2012 04:16 AM

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No, it's proven to be impossible. Behold, DARK MATTER!

DARK ENERGY, actually. If it was just DARK MATTER, there'd be plenty enough gravity to draw all of the DARK and light MATTER to collapse back in to itself. It's DARK ENERGY that is pushing all the matter in the universe apart and causing it to accelerate.