Oddworld Forums

Oddworld Forums (http://www.oddworldforums.net/index.php)
-   Oddworld Discussion (http://www.oddworldforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   Big Face (http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=20694)

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 07:15 AM

:

()
Do you hope that the controlling forces of Earth's capitalist establishment are overthrown by some native hilltribe?


If Big Face was Abe from the future, and Abe was killed, then what force would be acting on his atoms to make them disappear?

even though its impossible:
1. He wouldn't dissappear, he would have never have existed beyond the point where abd is chucked in the meat grinder,(I watch a lot of Doctor Who)
2. It wouldn't happen anyway because it didn't.

3. Like AvengingGibbons said, it wont be abe from the future because its just downright stupid, why would BigFace kill his past self? No, this isn't Misfits.

There has also been a lot of discussion about how the paw/handprint on the moon came to be, but I wont go into that now .

STM 01-20-2012 07:17 AM

:

()
What industrial practice?

Stitching people's lips shut.

AvengingGibbons 01-20-2012 07:31 AM

:

()
Stitching people's lips shut.

Oh.. I thought Abe's mum did that.. Sam? So he wouldnt disturb the farm animals by crying? I can't remember..

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 07:36 AM

Ive heard that too, but if it is, how come all the mudokon signs in ao and ae have stitched lips?

Sekto Springs 01-20-2012 08:30 AM

:

There has also been a lot of discussion about how the paw/handprint on the moon came to be, but I wont go into that now
The accepted canon is that the hand on the moon appeared long ago, and was ultimately what caused the antagonism between the Mudokons and Glukkons.

Lorne's original idea was that a meteor shower forming the print occurred right before Abe escaped RuptureFarms, but he decided it was far too "deus ex machina" and worked it into their backstory.

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 08:33 AM

That seems right, but what about munchs moon?

Sekto Springs 01-20-2012 08:38 AM

We mostly pretend it's not there...

Scraby 01-20-2012 09:06 AM

:

()
I just love the way you say that as if it were a solid fact accepted by everybody. :p

I'm more, as Sekto Springs, of the "vaishing into thin air" school of thought.

well im a science type of a guy :P XD

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 09:13 AM

:

()
We mostly pretend it's not there...

I do that with the entire game

MeechMunchie 01-20-2012 10:59 AM

:

()
I do that with the entire game

Hey, he said something genuinely funny!

Let's get him a present.

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 11:54 AM

Thank you, i'm glad to know you guys share my views about MO

Spooce-aholic 01-20-2012 12:30 PM

I think the ending depends on which quarma you complete it with. But I'm hoping the perfect ending will cannon.

Wil 01-20-2012 12:37 PM

Actually, the Dark Quarma ending is canon. Everything after Abe's Oddysee is just Raisin dreaming. Including the existence of Raisin.

Varrok 01-20-2012 12:48 PM

Are you sure you're currently not the one inside of your dream? I mean, if you exist...

...wait, who am I talking to... Wil? Who's Wil?

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 01:07 PM

Anyway, back to the topic yes, of course the perfect endings are canon, theres no debate there.

MeechMunchie 01-20-2012 02:20 PM

No. All of the bad endings are canon. Abe dies three times over the course of the series.

Phylum 01-20-2012 02:23 PM

Wil said AOs bad ending was canon. Who are you to argue with him? He works at JAW.

EDIT: Dammit, MM.

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 02:38 PM

So abe only saved about 50 muds? Even though he said he saved 99 in ae, and all the muds in ae are suddenly cheering for himeven when he killed 50, and it carrieson from the ao good ending? So much evidence, have you considered that Wil may have been joking? Or are you messing with me?

Manco 01-20-2012 02:54 PM

:

()
Wil said AOs bad ending was canon. Who are you to argue with him? He works at JAW.

nods oddysee fall 2015

Scraby 01-20-2012 03:05 PM

:

oddworld wiki
Nod's Oddysee was a title made up by Oddworld Forum admin Max the Mug. Few fans know the idea is a fake and belive that it is the final Quintology hero.
Well so it goes for nods oddysee.

Nepsotic 01-20-2012 03:11 PM

Its strange to think that without GT's name change from SoulStorm to Abes Oddysee, we would never have the main Oddysee title.

Wil 01-20-2012 03:21 PM

:

Nod's Oddysee was a title made up by Oddworld Forum admin Max the Mug. Few fans know the idea is a fake and belive that it is the final Quintology hero.

There's so much wrong with that, a perfect example of why I can't stand the Oddworld Wiki. Why won't anyone be my damn web dev. :(

Andrelvis 01-20-2012 06:40 PM

:

()
There's so much wrong with that, a perfect example of why I can't stand the Oddworld Wiki. Why won't anyone be my damn web dev. :(

I started the Oddworld Wiki together with a friend (GameFreak) :p I just checked and I still have admin status after all this time.

Funnily enough, I also founded the Diablo Wiki, and still have admin status there too.

But I haven't edited either of them in years =P

Should I make you an admin at the Oddworld Wiki (and the same question applies to Nate and Xavier)?

Nate 01-20-2012 09:41 PM

I think he'd prefer it if every page on the wiki linked directly to the equivalent page on TOL. But he'd be too polite to say so.

Xavier 01-22-2012 10:32 PM

Well it can always come handy to have access to it. So yes please :)

Andrelvis 01-23-2012 01:28 PM

:

()
Well it can always come handy to have access to it. So yes please :)

Ok :)

Is this you?

http://oddworld.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xavier

Sekto Springs 01-23-2012 03:35 PM

:

At the end of their journey, Munch thanks Abe for helping him get the Gabbiar, which surprises Abe since he never got a thanks for the good he has done(except from Big Face, who then killed Abe by accident).
Who is responsible for this little nugget of information?

Andrelvis 01-23-2012 08:31 PM

:

()
Who is responsible for this little nugget of information?

I think it is talking about the start of Abe's Exoddus, when the Big Face says thanks to Abe and then pats him in the back, and he falls. He didn't die then though, so I've just corrected it, thanks for pointing it out.

Nepsotic 01-24-2012 07:22 AM

ah well, no Wiki's are perfect

Xavier 01-25-2012 05:27 AM

I am not sure, I tried to send myself a new password and I haven't received any mail yet.

Andrelvis 01-26-2012 03:29 PM

:

()
I am not sure, I tried to send myself a new password and I haven't received any mail yet.

Ok, let me know when you know what your username on wikia is.

Slog Bait 02-03-2012 01:23 AM

Didn't Abe die from smashing his head after falling off a cliff in the middle of the night and landed on the ground in broad daylight in a completely different environment even though he only fell for a few seconds and then some Big Face appeared and announced his deadness to him?

The bad endings most certainly are 100% canon. Abe died all of those times and then some. And by some I mean every single in game death you had while playing through the games for the first time.

Sekto Springs 02-03-2012 08:44 AM

:

Didn't Abe die from smashing his head after falling off a cliff in the middle of the night and landed on the ground in broad daylight in a completely different environment
I don't think he landed in daylight. It was more like some kind of ethereal spotlight put in for the sake of theatricality. Or you could rationalize that it was "the light", and Big Face intercepted his journey to the afterlife to tell him his true purpose and revive him.

Dipstikk 02-03-2012 12:45 PM

Spoiler: Big Face is really the Pyro.

Hudda hudda.

Bullet Magnet 02-03-2012 03:28 PM

Bigface is clearly a fanboy.

Andrelvis 02-04-2012 10:38 AM

:

()
Didn't Abe die from smashing his head after falling off a cliff in the middle of the night and landed on the ground in broad daylight in a completely different environment even though he only fell for a few seconds and then some Big Face appeared and announced his deadness to him?

I think it was metaphorical, in that he wasn't really dead, "just" dying and near death, when the Big Face came and healed him.

Slog Bait 02-04-2012 12:20 PM

:

()
I don't think he landed in daylight. It was more like some kind of ethereal spotlight put in for the sake of theatricality. Or you could rationalize that it was "the light", and Big Face intercepted his journey to the afterlife to tell him his true purpose and revive him.

:

()
I think it was metaphorical, in that he wasn't really dead, "just" dying and near death, when the Big Face came and healed him.

God dammit guys, stop ruining my fun.

I'm pretty sure it was metaphorical, but it still doesn't explain why moments after landing in the middle of the night it was suddenly day time again. The trek back to Rupture Farms made more sense because I can see it taking more than a day to complete the Scrabanian + Paramonia challenges and returning at night because it would be easier to infiltrate in the dark, but the damn moon was high in the sky and there was no sunrise to be seen from the first go through the Stockyards.

I was going to pick at how he was just miraculously brought back to life, but this is Oddworld. If you can possess pretty much anything that moves just by "channeling" your energy through chanting, burst into a flock of birds when you die, and exclusive to MO you can revive pretty much everyone an infinite amount of times, I can see a random shaman just approaching him after he smashes his head and bringing him back to life.

My point still stands. Those bad endings were entirely canon things that happened. Yep. Time fuckery may or may not have been involved. I'm perfectly cool with accepting they were all alternate timelines based on what decisions Abe made.

DesertBuzzard 02-04-2012 02:45 PM

Abe could have been lying there for a few hours until Big Face found him in the morning or something. It could have just taken a few seconds in the cutscene.

Scraby 02-04-2012 02:51 PM

Hmmm as I remember when abe fell from that top he said that he smashed his head until some big face appeared and said he was dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEHUOLnFPgU

Nate 02-04-2012 02:54 PM

It's pretty clearly a mystical circle of light and not normal daylight, given the way that Bigface is not visible beyond the circle of light but appears as he walks through the perimeter. If it was normal daylight, he'd be visible from any distance.