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StrangerEastwood 11-17-2011 10:51 AM

Billy crudup was a great Ashitaka, and Billy bob Thornton's Jigo...wonderful. neil gaiman did a wonderful job on the dub.

Sekto Springs 11-17-2011 11:20 AM

I LOVE Princess Mononoke.
Probably my favorite Miyazaki film actually, and I'm usually lukewarm at best on his work. That movie blew me away.

StrangerEastwood 11-17-2011 11:30 AM

Ashitaka is such a badass, lol.

Mac Sirloin 11-17-2011 12:43 PM

The only other Miyazaki film I'd seen before seeing Mononoke (when I was 9 or 10) was Totoro. I was taken aback, but I love watching them both to this day. I hope Studio Ghibli makes another movie like Castle in The Sky or Mononoke, they sure know how to make a good adventure movie.

Sekto Springs 11-17-2011 01:43 PM

Their last few movies have just felt so hollow to me. Artistically astounding, yes, but their characterization leaves plenty to be desired as of late.

Mononoke was the most recent he did that I loved. His earlier stuff like Castle in the Sky and Nausicaa felt so much richer somehow.

StrangerEastwood 11-17-2011 01:47 PM

I don't know, i thought ponyo was adorable and classic miyazaki. Howl's moving castle is better than most, but easily Miyazaki's worst.

Wings of Fire 11-17-2011 01:49 PM

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Their last few movies have just felt so hollow to me. Artistically astounding, yes, but their characterization leaves plenty to be desired as of late.

Well Spirited Away was a great, though not spectacular, story about growing up and conquering your fears, Howl's Moving Castle should be a bad movie but it's so infuriatingly magical that I can't help loving it and Ponyo is a kids movie.

Also Miyazaki is a crotchety old man who thinks people with iphones on public transport remind him of masturbating.

StrangerEastwood 11-17-2011 01:52 PM

Yes he is, but it's expected, look what his movies' themes generally are.(Nature goooood, we baaaaaaad, xD)

Wings of Fire 11-17-2011 02:07 PM

Now, the studio in general apart from Miyazaki had two really good directors; Takahata (Grave of the Fireflies) turns shit he touches into gold, but hasn't made a movie for years and Kondou (Whisper of the Heart) unfortunately was pegged as the successor of Ghibli but died young.

Miyazaki's son... I haven't watched Earthsea yet, but from everything OANST has told me about it, I doubt it will leave me very impressed. I'll take his latest film with a grain of salt though. Yonebayashi who recently directed The Borrower Arriety (Good, but not amazing, with a really nice moment that touched on Miyazaki's magic) is probably the hope of the studio.

StrangerEastwood 11-17-2011 02:11 PM

I wonder why takahata hasn't done anything in so long. And yes, kondou's death was tragic...whisper of the heart was such a sweet movie. And, having seen earthsea, yes, it is a mess of a film, but still enjoyable if you aren't expecting his father. Goro did what he could with little experience and much stress.

Wings of Fire 11-17-2011 02:14 PM

I intend to see it, if only because I'll be damned if I don't own the whole Ghibli library and have it stacked up on my shelf with a Catbus plush guarding it.

Even Nate likes Catbus, and he hates animu.

StrangerEastwood 11-17-2011 02:17 PM

That's because the catbus is awesome, and the furriest way to travel. btw, am I the only one who prefers the original dub of totoro to disney's? don't get me wrong, besides ponyo and the constant mispronunciations in it, disney does a great job at dubbing. but the VA's for disney's dub of totoro are...eh. but, I may be biased, as i despise Dakota Fanning.

Strike Witch 11-17-2011 09:21 PM

Pick this up if you want an entertaining anime film

Or just a good film in general.

Mac Sirloin 11-17-2011 10:11 PM

Thanks for reminding me of that. Christmas list updated.

I watched the newest episode of Beavis and Butthead earlier. They were doing a spoof of Super Size Me, which happened to be playing on a seperate channel simultaneously. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the way they animated Fat Butthead and Obese Beavis was thoroughly revolting.

StrangerEastwood 11-18-2011 12:48 AM

That looks distinctly like that animator's work on the animatrix who did the short about the runner. Looks fucking cool, I love the shading.
And oh god, new beavis and butthead...the one with the cult had me in fucking stitches....God.

Sekto Springs 11-18-2011 12:59 AM

That's Madhouse right?

StrangerEastwood 11-18-2011 01:01 AM

It certainly looks like that, I hope it's the guy who did that short in particular, it was incredible. Plus, this looks like a mad max/f zero fever dream. lol

Nate 11-18-2011 03:21 AM

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Even Nate likes Catbus, and he hates animu.

Well, I liked the amateurishly overdubbed and re-sound-effected version that someone (OANST?) posted on here and that has since been taken down from Youtube. The original left me a bit cold in comparison.

Strike Witch 11-18-2011 04:49 AM

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That's Madhouse right?


Yeah, Redline was animated mostly by hand apparently over a few years. It's basically this over-detailed wacky-races in space dealie.

And it's hella fun, good soundtrack too.

Wings of Fire 11-18-2011 06:15 AM

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Yeah, Redline was animated mostly by hand apparently over a few years. It's basically this over-detailed wacky-races in space dealie.

And it's hella fun, good soundtrack too.

And it bombed becasue there's literally nothing to it but excellent animation.

I still plan to see it though.

Mac Sirloin 11-18-2011 07:18 AM

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Well, I liked the amateurishly overdubbed and re-sound-effected version that someone (OANST?) posted on here and that has since been taken down from Youtube. The original left me a bit cold in comparison.

You mean the Troma version? Troma was the first North American production company to dub it. That's the version I remember from when I was a kid.

Sekto Springs 11-18-2011 09:22 AM

Troma did a dub?
Who voiced Totoro? the Toxic Avenger?

Mac Sirloin 11-18-2011 01:59 PM

I also would've accepted Sgt Kabukiman.

Anyhoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro

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Troma Films, under their 50th St. Films banner, distributed the dub of the film co-produced by Jerry Beck. It was released on VHS and DVD by Fox Video. Troma's and Fox's rights to this version expired in 2004.

Reading this, I found out that Spirited Away was released 10 years ago. I love that movie so much. I want to watch it again right now.

STM 11-18-2011 02:09 PM

COR! What just happened in The Walking Dead???????? THE BARN!!!!

Strike Witch 11-18-2011 02:20 PM

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And it bombed becasue there's literally nothing to it but excellent animation.

I still plan to see it though.

Don't say there's nothing to it yet if you haven't seen it though. The story may not be rocket science but it's lovely and heartwarming.

Nate 11-18-2011 04:02 PM

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You mean the Troma version? Troma was the first North American production company to dub it. That's the version I remember from when I was a kid.

No. Rereading my last post, I should have said 'amateur' rather than 'amateurishly'. It was a video on Youtube from a sound editing student, who had completely redone the sound of that one scene. And it was great.

Mac Sirloin 11-18-2011 04:21 PM

I figured you meant something like that, I just really wanted to share the fact that Troma went out of their way to acquire the rights to Totoro. Despite the fact that it went over everyone's head except for Sekto because him and I are illustrious film buffs and not nerds. At all.

Wings of Fire 11-18-2011 06:36 PM

Well since this is now an officially sanctioned anime thread:




My two favourite scenes from my favourite anime. (Might want to watch this scene before the latter video)

So has anyone here actually watched any anime series later than ~2005?

Sekto Springs 11-18-2011 06:58 PM

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So has anyone here actually watched any anime series later than ~2005?
I honestly don't check the year on what little anime I watch. Does it matter?
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Despite the fact that it went over everyone's head except for Sekto because him and I are illustrious film buffs and not nerds. At all.
SMOOCHES!

Wings of Fire 11-18-2011 07:39 PM

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I honestly don't check the year on what little anime I watch. Does it matter?

It's of interest to me. Most anime people know of and judge by tends to be 90s stuff (DBZ, Trigun, Sailor Moon, Gundam Wing, FLCL, NGE etc) with a few early 00s stuff (FMA, Paranoia Agent) and then we have the shonen long runners and the odd outlying series from the last five years that somehow makes it over here (TTGL, Death Note).

So yeah, simple interest to see if anyone has tried more recent or exotic stuff. I know you and Nikki are big fans of Eureka Seven, which was more awesome than I could have expected.

moxco 11-19-2011 12:22 AM

I was rather dissapointed Satsuki's mother survived in Totoro. I know it is a kid's movie, but the whole and they all lived happily ever after... ending seemed a bit cliché. It wasn't even some triumphant overcoming of cancer, I can't remember what actually happened but didn't I turn out that she only had a cold or something anticlimactic and stupid?

Death Note, Elfen Leid and Gankutsuou I rather enjoyed. Dective Conan and Code Geass were okay.

Crashpunk 11-19-2011 02:15 AM

I like reading Manga but I'm not the biggest fan of watching Anime (Its weird I know.) My friends love anime however, I sometimes watch Bleach if my mates are watching it and they keep saying I should watch Death Note and Full Metal Alchemist because they are the best 'apparently'.

Truth be told, I could take it or leave it.

MeechMunchie 11-19-2011 05:57 AM

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I like reading Manga but I'm not the biggest fan of watching Anime (Its weird I know.) My friends love anime however, and they keep saying I should watch Death Note and Full Metal Alchemist because they are the best 'apparently'.

Truth be told, I could take it or leave it.

This but more angry and with more hypocrisy.

Sekto Springs 11-19-2011 06:42 AM

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I know you and Nikki are big fans of Eureka Seven, which was more awesome than I could have expected.
That's the only one I can think of off the top of my head. I've watched Hell Girl on and off, but I can't account for how recent that is.

Also, I think FLCL counts as early 00's. I know sure as hell it wasn't dubbed until then. That's another one of my favorites.
Blue Submarine No. 6 was another great one in the same vein. I prefer quality of animation/story over quantity of episodes. Dragon Ball was the one exception, but it also had enough filler that I could miss an episode on occasion and still be on the same page.

StrangerEastwood 11-19-2011 11:14 PM

Funny, i just got FLCL the complete series today...and yeah, i thought that was more early 00's. And there's lotsa great anime that's new, FMA, Geass, Paranoia Agent-good stuff. But Anime hit alot of it's major notes in the 80's and 90's. in the wake of anime such as Akira and Ghost in the Shell, anime was showing both it's maturity and ability to tell good stories, as well as it's marketability worldwide. I don't discriminate between old and new anime. You just can't help but draw comparison. Does Naruto or Bleach hold a candle to DBZ or Yu Yu Hakusho? Doubtful. Alot of my faves are older, yeah, but I find that I do have certain preferences for older anime, mostly in style and art. i dislike the overly glossy, shiny anime of late. Of course, that is a minor gripe. The dubs and writing of said dubs this generation far outweigh many older productions. Besides Bebop-it is divine. Oh, and Wings, I'm sure you get this alot, but-WATCH BEBOP, MAN! lol

Sekto Springs 11-19-2011 11:16 PM

Bebop and Outlaw Star remain two of my favorite animes and biggest creative influences to date, and they were both 90's.

I never got into FMA, and it's fans certainly didn't help in that.

StrangerEastwood 11-19-2011 11:25 PM

I have both entire series-i love outlaw star, but lord it has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many filler episodes. lol Hot springs planet tenrei...lord.

Strike Witch 11-20-2011 02:10 AM

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i dislike the overly glossy, shiny anime of late
You are missing out on so fucking much.

These last few years have produced some of the best titles the medium has seen.

StrangerEastwood 11-20-2011 02:51 AM

I am not, actually. I watch quite alot, I simply mean that the style is a little much. I loved Code Geass, but lord it was like a seizure inducing rainbow with robots. lol i prefer darker, more realistic palettes, or at least not glistening as if all the characters are soaked in lube. lol Part of the reason I didn't care for Eureka Seven, that and how contrived it felt. Sad, as bones is a brilliant studio. Anyone on here seen Wolf's Rain?

Strike Witch 11-20-2011 05:12 AM

Dude, Code Geass was fine, you should get your eyes checked.