I suppose Im a bit like DI in the fact that I have fat and muscle, not sure which is dominant though. I am continually trying to lose weight though, shit is hard.

I don't think starving yourself will help x_x ... Unless you really stick to it which would make you anorexic...

I think maybe less carbs would help. Dunno though.

I'm starting my work out in 2 hours: chest, back, biceps... and abdominals. I must say that with this high temperature (35 °C) it's very difficult to increase muscular mass, in fact I'm losing volume, also because I practise more aerobics and I sweat profusely.


Try asking your trainer for a specific diet! Remember, diet is 80% of the work!

I would like to lose some of my gut, but I probably never will bother. It's not too bad at the moment, but it's not getting any smaller.

You can go the gym as much as you want but if you don't cut the crap from your diet it won't help. If you are mesomorphic (athletic build 11%-16% body fat or something) you want eat 6 portions of vegetables a day, drink about 5 litres of water and eat proteins more than anything else so chicken, pasta and fish.

I have quite a healthy diet, but I'm limited by the fact that I'm vegetarian. I hardly ever eat processed food; almost everything I eat is made from fresh ingredients - I even home-make bread and pasta (with wholemeal flour). I also never eat fatty foods. The big problem is that it's almost impossible to be a vegetarian and cut out carbs entirely. I've reduced my intake significantly in the last few weeks, but it's just not enough.

If you feel you are limited as a vegetarian, why not start eating meat? Unless you are against it, but that's a different topic.

Flawless logic.

Meat can give you the muscular strenght you need to do exercises in a better way and so lose more fat! If you want to lose weight i suggest you white meat.

The problem is that you're a vegetarian :(

There's always fish and egg but it depends how far green you've gone.

Fish is meat.

Saying that, I'm practically a pollo-pescatarian.

I can't help but agree with your logic. My life would be much, much simpler if I could eat meat.

Unfortunately, the taste, smell and (to a lesser extent) texture of both meat and fish make me nauseous and have done since I was a baby.

I know you're not seriously going to starve yourself, but just to scare you away from the idea I know someone who was pretty big in terms of weight that tried to starve himself.

Within days, he looked like what I could only describe as a fat zombie, didn't help at all.

I don't starve myself but I find it effective to cut down the amount of meals I have in a day down to one and walk. And I mean fucking trek... no bikes or none of that easy option nonsense.

Dangerous? Yes, but this body didn't happen by accident.

EDIT: I should mention that I don't have a skeletal frame with sunken eyes. I'm 5'11" and I weigh 10 and a half stone, and despite my heavy smoking I'm generally a healthy person.

What about eggs?

E: Also many cheeses and some forms of thicker dairy contain very little carbs.

You know, I would consider eggs meat. They're still an animal cell.

I mean, even though it was designed to be ejected from the body it was still a part of the animal at one point.

Ugh. Being vegetarian myself, I must ask you never to use that revolting phrase again.

Plenty of things are animal cells but not meat...

...and that's the defenition I'm challenging. Leather is meat! Ivory is meat!

Cut back carbs. Seriously, when Dorian was pregnant and I had to lose weight because I was trying to get into the Air Force, my trainer at the gym suggested drastically cutting back [nearly eliminating] my carb intake for about three months while I worked out like crazy. In three months I lost something like twenty two pounds. But I was also exercising about two hours a day. After that I put on about seven pounds, but when we did my BMI it was apparently all muscle, so that was pretty cool. Which makes sense, because I had shifted my regime from heavy cardio/running to more weight training and swimming.

Anyway, lose weight = less carbs. Trust me. It sucks dick while you're doing it, at least for the first few weeks, but you eventually get used to it.

As of today, I eat whatever the fuck I want. Greasy/fried foods are my weakness, but I try to moderate my intake. Still, I eat huge portions. I can't help it. I just have a big appetite. But I also walk to/from college five days a week, which is about a two mile walk with steep/severe hills and inclines both ways. I also do push-ups [which I still feel are one of the best workouts you can do at home, the results are immediate within a month] every day, and go to the gym. But I also smoke cigarettes, drink a lot of alcohol, and smoke pot. So I'm not exactly...healthy.

Well as far as I know... Muscle fiber is considered meat. Skin is skin, and fat is fat.

Either way, whether eggs are meat or not. Nate didn't say he renounced meat for moral issues, but because they make him nauseous. I was just wondering if eggs have the same effect.

And yea. I've read about low-carbing. I even tried it, but then my mom bullied me out of it cos she thinks its unhealthy <.<
I actually liked doing low-carb cos I had a regime to stick to and it strengthened my will and my strength to resist temptations(bad food and sugary yummies).

I may try again, cos jesus, Im starting to get lost again in temptation land X(

If you wanna lose weight DON'T EAT CHEESE!!! It's very fat! Trust me: it contains many proteins but also many lipids!

Actually. If you cut out a significant amount of carbs, your body will need natural/real fat to lose weight. Try and look into the matter. It's quite interesting really.

Carbs must be eaten in the morning. I have two egg whites, a cup of tea (with sugar) and 6 rusks for breakfast (and Supradyn after that!). Two snacks with tuna and ham with some bread. This is what I eat during the morning till lunch.

Has anyone else here tried P90X? Elvis burned a copy of the DVDs for me so I wouldn't have to pay quite some time ago, and man, that's one hell of a work out. If you can stop yourself from laughing at the guy who leads the routines, I mean. He's such a fucking douche. Seriously though, that's a rough program. Good results if you stick with it. Most people don't.



jesus:

Carbs is an essential part of a regular diet. But but some people do weight-loss by cutting out those carbs to a bare minimum then slowly going up. If you do low-carb you can't do low-calorie at the same time, and the body also needs fat. Who'd have thought you can lose weight by eating meat and fat and controlled amounts of fruits/veggies? It's possible. Look into "ketosis".
It seem to work for a lot of people, specially those with a big appetite.


I really liked sticking to it though. It's fairly simple to find out how many carbs there are in a certain food, and I wouldn't have to limit myself. But it gave me strength to cut out all the sugary crap and get rid of my bad food addictions.

But either way, under these circumstances fat CAN help you lose weight.

I eat small meals throughout the day, supposedly eating six small meals is healthier for people that do more than an hour of exercise a day than three meals.

Oh, I wasn't trying to correct you. I was just spewing my musings.

As Scrabtrapman said, the healthiest thing is to eat multiple small meals throughout the day. That's because each one hits your metabolism less hard, so it's able to process it better. Also, the simple act of digesting food uses up energy, so it's best to spread it across the day to have the greatest effect.

Eggs and cheese are fine.

Your mum is wrong, as long as you keep it to 'Low Carb' and not 'No Carb'. The healthiest diet (as dictated by actual doctors and scientists, and not kooks) is high protein, low fat and low carbs. However, what you're describing (in the second post that I quoted) sounds like the Atkins Diet, which only works in the short term and even then is extremely unhealthy.

Nexy remember that our brain needs 25 g of carbs everyday for our vital functions. So we obviously must eat at leasr those 25 g. Then we will eat other carbs... but when you're practising body-building with a high-protein diet but you eat lots of carbs suddenly, you notice it in your abdomen!

well yea, I didn't mean no carbs at all.

Anyway Im trying to cut bread and milk out of my diet.. Its so hard though x_x

Be sure you're not eating junk food and don't eat much carbs in the evening, trust me! Do you practise any sports?

No... I hate sports. I sometimes spend an hour a day playing DDR, which is great cardio really. Really it's great exercise.
But cutting bread out at least would be a good choice for me x_x Id rather eat rice or get my carbs from a better source. But I love the convenience of bread. And sometimes it's very economical.

Also milk apparently isn't good if you are trying to lose weight :p ... considering it's there to help cattle grow friggin huge. But I guess it's good if you wanna gain muscle?

I don't think, however I can't drink it because I am allergic to lactose... but I love its taste :(

Exercise and diet always go in tandem you must do both if you want to be fit and healthy. Even if you hate sports 5 minutes of sprinting on a treadmill at 15 kph in sets is good.

Thats why I have DDR ... :) Its fun AND it makes me sweat and train muscles... Well it trains legs and stomach. That's where I feel it.

The rest I have to do manually.

Playing Mortal Kombat makes me sweat. Jesus that game is intense sometimes.

My workout is simple. 4 sets of the following in quick succession;
10 Pull-ups (get a pull-up bar, really awesome)
10 Press-ups
20 Weighted Russian-twists (was originally 10, upped it due to weirdly strong abs =/)
10 Weighted squats (10kg per hand)

All that once a day and followed with a protein shake. It won't make you a spartan but since I started I'm noticing some very nice tone, and that I'm not such a weed any more.

On a side note, the best workout I've ever done was when I was excavating for my archaeology course. Using a mattock and a shovel to dig out about a metre and a half cubed of earth, which often includes pure clay and occasionally sandstone, is incredible for the biceps and back. Doing that once a day for two weeks made me feel powerful by the end. :p

Stretch
Find Ottoman full of boardgames
20 squats with such
20 Proper 'lifts' (mostly practice for work)
20+ lying down benchpresses/lifts
10 Sit ups
Lots and lots of walking
stretch again

Are you losing weight?

Not sure who you were talking to - in case it was me, I'm actually gaining weight, as I'm taking protein shakes and working for muscle - I'm too weedy, if I lost any more weight I think I would start getting hurt by light magic, just sayin'. :p

best way to get into shape is to just do hard, physical work. that way you're actually doing something whilst exercising and can make yourself feel useful by looking at how much work you've done, learning basic skills along the way. something as simple as learning to hammer nails without missing or bending it is something that will certainly come in handy many times in various points in life.

since i left agriculture behind i've gotten out of shape, and the shitty factory work isn't anything i'm used to, so my body has sort of deteriorated and i've gained a beer belly. i used to be so healthy and generally happy, now i just feel like shit all the time. i keep busy after working hours and on weekends doing odd jobs for friends and family as a sort of handy man, but its no where near as much work as i used to do, therefore not enough.

yes, i had to bring farming into it again. i know.