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RoryF 05-21-2011 11:12 AM
You need his ddraw hook .dll to do that, it should be in the .lvl files thread. Don't know what page though:confused:.

Never Sleeper 05-21-2011 11:44 AM
Well i've downloaded the dll but it doesn't worked. :/

Connell 05-21-2011 01:17 PM
Is there any way to get a group of scrabs that are together to not fight to the death? Or is it just programmed in to be their nature. I have a load in a pit you must crush to get across, but they all kill each other anyway and you can run past!

RoryF 05-21-2011 01:23 PM
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Is there any way to get a group of scrabs that are together to not fight to the death? Or is it just programmed in to be their nature. I have a load in a pit you must crush to get across, but they all kill each other anyway and you can run past!
No, you can't stop them from fighting each other because their AI behaviors are programmed into the game .exe and is (probably) impossible to change. Basically they're not stored in the .lvl or paths...
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Well i've downloaded the dll but it doesn't worked. :/
Are you sure you've got the right version? Paul said it works with English non-Steam version of the game.

Connell 05-21-2011 02:05 PM
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No, you can't stop them from fighting each other because their AI behaviors are programmed into the game .exe and is (probably) impossible to change. Basically they're not stored in the .lvl or paths...
Sadly I thought that would be the case. Oh well thank's for the reply! Another scrab related question, any way to trigger them to fall into a screen when you pull a lever?

RoryF 05-21-2011 02:06 PM
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Sadly I thought that would be the case. Oh well thank's for the reply! Another scrab related question, any way to trigger them to fall into a screen when you pull a lever?
If you want that, try putting a trap door above the screen, find the trigger id for the lever to make it drop and put a scrab on top of it.

Connell 05-21-2011 02:08 PM
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If you want that, try putting a trap door above the screen, find the trigger id for the lever to make it drop and put a scrab on top of it.
Give the man a medal! ;) cheers buddy, good plan.

Never Sleeper 05-21-2011 11:24 PM
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Are you sure you've got the right version? Paul said it works with English non-Steam version of the game.
Well I've got only the german-version as real CD-Package and tried to work WITH the english version FROM steam. I'm not sure but I think to remember that Paul said he solved the problem with the steam-versions. Maybe I'm wrong. =(

RoryF 05-22-2011 01:50 AM
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Well I've got only the german-version as real CD-Package and tried to work WITH the english version FROM steam. I'm not sure but I think to remember that Paul said he solved the problem with the steam-versions. Maybe I'm wrong. =(
I don't think he has yet. That's probably why. You need the English CD version for it to work.

Paul 05-22-2011 07:18 AM
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I don't think he has yet. That's probably why. You need the English CD version for it to work.
It will work with the steam version, there a couple of ddraw.dll's that where posted ;)

Also I find that editing collision paths in my editor is ANNOYING AS HELL :| I think I need to add more grid stuff before anything else as collisions that are not on the grid properly don't work or allow you to fall through the floor etc.

RoryF 05-22-2011 08:19 AM
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It will work with the steam version, there a couple of ddraw.dll's that where posted ;)

Also I find that editing collision paths in my editor is ANNOYING AS HELL :| I think I need to add more grid stuff before anything else as collisions that are not on the grid properly don't work or allow you to fall through the floor etc.
Yeah, that would help. I only really have a problem when it comes to hoists. Mainly offscreen ones. :confused:

Never Sleeper 05-23-2011 01:16 AM
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It will work with the steam version, there a couple of ddraw.dll's that where posted ;)
So well I've tried your one from this page:
http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...postcount=1695

put the ddraw.dll into the directory of ae but the right-click doesn't work. :confused:

Paul 05-24-2011 01:31 PM
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So well I've tried your one from this page:
http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...postcount=1695

put the ddraw.dll into the directory of ae but the right-click doesn't work. :confused:
Cause that dll lets the game load the custom cams, you need the beta 0.6.1 editor for that :P

Never Sleeper 05-24-2011 10:16 PM
I'm sure you know what I'm asking for now. ; )

Oh and by the way thanks for the grid-picture from the psx-emulator.

Jango 06-10-2011 08:11 AM
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I think I need to add more grid stuff before anything else as collisions that are not on the grid properly don't work or allow you to fall through the floor etc.
It would be awesome if you could do that, amongst the other things you are planning. Thanks Paul. :)


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