I haven't read a single one of your posts in this topic, including the first one.

Perhaps I have ADHD.

You gotta clarify for me here whether you're trying to be a jackass, a dick, or just well-humored...

But I thought your self-diagnosed disorder made you better at interpreting non-verbal communication?

That's why I'm asking; it'd be stupid to respond without clarifying the connotative ambiguity I found in his words.

even though I'm awful at it (to which I am taking your word on) I am much much worse in the real world.

Iv'e only ever had two non autistic friends

how on earth can anyone think a self diagnostic could be accurate?
if something is messed up with your brain then your not likely to get the right diagnosis (probably spelt wrong)

If Evan wants you to, I'm afraid you've got to.

also I'm crap at spelling. (I think that is what you were pointing out, thanks for pulling me up on it)

except the professionals are trained to detect the poor interpersonal and communication skills, and they have tests and based on your responses and/or actions can determine a good estimite of what you have, I know this because I have been diagnosed by said professionals on more than one occaision, at first a pediatrition said I had ADD, then a school counciler said asburgers, then another pediatrition said ADHD, until a psycolagist examined me and said asburgers. the thing in common with the two people that got the diagnosis correct is that they analysed my behavior before diagnosing me one way or the other, while the 2 people who got it wrong just spoke to me forhalf an hour and made up thier minds, the problem with a self diagnostic is your trying to analyse your owne possably messed up mind based on possably missinterprited instructions on how to make a diagnosis, not to mention that you would never pick up on anything that you don't realize your doing, which thier were plenty of things I didn't realize I was doing when I got diagnosed, and I am giving you a long rant in the hope that you see how hard it is to read such a rant and try to make your posts easier to read so more poeple will actually read them.

Just read the Bipolar page on wikipedia, I would self diagnose myself with it, but there are so many symptoms I am bound to have some of them.

Schizophrenia however...

I've got several disorders, according to the plethora of psychologists I've been forced to see over the years. The Tourette's diagnosis has been overruled, but so far I've been diagnosed with ADHD and an Autistic Spectrum Disorder: NOS called "Pervasive Developmental Disorder."

Means I get distracted easily and I age mentally a few years slower than I do physically.

OH HEY THERE'S A BIRDS OUTSIDE

*Walks through/demolishes patio doors* BIIIIRRRRDDIEEESSS. HNNNUUUURRRGGGHHH.

i was diagnosed with both psychosis and clinical depression by my psychiatrist a couple of years ago whilst i was sectioned, and i'll have to take a high dose of anti-psychotics and anti-depressants for a long time to come. frankly, i find self-diagnosis of disorders like Asperger's and ADHD fucking ridiculous and a bit of an insult. i would love to be something other than this.

Agreed.

I think self-diagnosis isn't completely stupid, and I also think most people dont do it to be 'special'.

The motivation to get these certain things checke dout has to come from somewhere. And that's self-diagnosis... Or at least self-assessment or analysis.

Anyway, if one self-diagnoses with a disease, at least they should go and get a professional opinion on it.

Just my 2 øre(danish version of cents).

Reduced possibility for miscommunication? You hold your brain in too high regard, which is amusing given your insistence that it has particular problems. The human brain is rife with ways of getting things wrong.

How often does someone we know tell us to stop fidgeting or grinding our teeth or some other peculiar activity that we don't even notice we're doing? How frequently do they point things our about ourselves and/or our behaviour that even we had not noticed? Our perspective of normality is not only skewed, but almost entirely blocked from our view.

We know what we think, or at least, we think we do. I don't know how any of us could possibly prove that. But we have nothing to compare it to at all. Trained professionals don't know what we think, but they can determine the way we operate through various means, and since that's from the outside they can make comparisons. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I'll hang my bets on it being a damn slight more useful than a self-diagnosis of cognitive disorder. Doing so is the same crap people did for years before the advent of science, and continued doing afterwards mistaking it for science.

No one is adept at deceiving us than ourselves. Perhaps you want this to be true, to hang your problems on an explanation, or you don't, but you're sufficiently pessimistic or hypochondriac to see all your problems in that diagnosis. I don't want to say that either of these are true for you, nor that you don't sit far enough along the autistic spectrum to warrant a diagnosis. But I am saying that there is a great deal of confirmation bias present in the way you reached this conclusion. A conclusion that may be right, but you should not be satisfied reaching any conclusion through faulty means.

Get a proper diagnosis, and let them know when you do that you have read up on this stuff. You're in a position to artificially skew some of the results now.

Echoing my sentiments. I don't know how prevalent self-diagnosis is outside of high school, but the majority of the "superficial asshole uses autism as an excuse" complaints come from school kids. I try not to see the rest of the waking world as being entirely populated by complete morons, as there are many people who have a keen insight into their own, or other's physiology.

STOP BEING SUCH PESSIMISTS. >:C

Yes, but many of the people who we were talking about self-diagnose and then don't bother to get a professional diagnosis (and treatment) because they're happy to have a scapegoat on which to blame all their problems.

Maybe Majic has been doing too many drugs.

You're psychotic? Boy, that'll add a whole new dimension to my insulting comedy.

it'll add some spice to our roleplay, too.

i'll be the madman who bursts through the bedroom door with a chainsaw.

Kinky.

@Mollucks Assistant Explains why you've always been a dick to me.
@hedjeroo I feel your pain man.
Okay, so like, I go to a school that is just filled with the motherfuckers, and they're all of the mind that they have special little heads, and that because they've been diagnosed, they don't need to change at all.
Case in point, There's this girl named Sam who's in my math class who claims to have a lower spectrum than I do, but through hacking into files, I've found that she in fact has the same spectrum as me. Keep this in mind.
We all talk in class. It's a small class, so it's not a big deal. Me 'n' Daniel would talk about internet memes or how someone freaked out the other day, and even if we're whispering to eachother, sam will stand up and start screaming
YOU'RE BEING TO LOUD!
And i'll be all "Sam, we're whispering. If you don't like it, they have headphones down at the office so you don't have to hear us."
NO YOU'RE NOT LISTENING I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMOOOOORE!
And Then she'll storm out of the classroom. The teacher followed after her one time and I heard Sam saying something along the lines of "my life is so unfair I'm getting abused Ima gonna kill myself" and shit like that.
The teacher agreed with me, that we were talking quietly and that she didn't need to do that in the middle of class, and that there were headphones to help her if she didn't like us talking.
Her excuse? "she didn't like them because they made her look dorky".
It's like, are you shitting me? Just because you have a mental tick doesn't mean that you don't have to adjust and learn to live with it. I suppose that I have to shut up when she freaks out hmmm? Because she's special in the head?

Yeah...I'm not reading that bullshit.

what a hideous pile of unwanted, uninteresting, stagnant piss. save your irritating and universally petty ramblings for the sympathetic retards on your DA account to read you fucking child. one day, you just might grow the fuck up, then you'll realize how much of an embarrassing pustule you've been your whole life. school hard, is it? filled with 'motherfuckers', is it? try looking at your own behaviour every once and a while you pathetic leech. it's fine to have problems, sure. even ones as childish as this. but your attitude is what makes you such an obnoxious and unlikable cunt. your 'life issues' dwarf in comparison to other people's. other people who are actually likable. other people who actually try to do the right thing all the time, even if it means they end up worse off for it. actually, you know what? i've already wasted enough time replying to your insignificant wall of text. hurry up and die.

AAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA-AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh dearie.

MA makes me hard.

@MA See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I try to make a decent point, and then you come at me going "OH UR SUCH A WORTHLESSS PILE OF SHIT GO KILL URSELF EMO FAGGOT"

Anyways, my point was, if people are going to have a disability, then they'd better learn to adapt and cope with the rest of the world.

He never said that, he said "Hurry up and die."

@MA And why are you saying such shit about me? Just last page you were whining about YOUR mental tick, and I wasn't an ass about that, now was i?
Honestly, I have no idea what your problem is, or what you're going through, but Taking it out on me isn't gonna solve anything. Giving me a big huge rant about how worthless I already know I am isn't gonna get rid of your psychosis, now is it.
And if you weren't gonna waste your time with me, then why did you say anything at all?

The disability prevents them from coping. It's actually very hard.

MA, you just crossed the line from amusing trolling in to abuse. I hope you enjoy your shiny infraction. Don't do it again.

Thanks nate.

@Dixanadu I understand that. It took me a while to cope with mine. But the teachers aren't even teaching the kids how to act properly. They're just making the more competent kids deal with their shit.
Now, say, if they were making an effort to better themselves, then I would have no problem. But i find that they're usually just letting them misbehave.

Misbehaving is when someone who is capable of behaving does not do so.

To label one as misbehaving when they have a disorder that prevents them from acting 'properly', is immoral.

True...But I couldn't think of the word I wanted.
And some of the aspies know how to behave, they just think that now that they're labeled, they don't have to improve. I agree, though, that if they don't know how to behave then they can't.

When I was at school, we had one such person. I'd name him the class clown, more than a misbehaving miscreant. Everything was good-natured and everyone was happy. Except the teacher, of course.

I'm not diagnosed with anything, probably because I never checked. I do know that I complain about everything.

Humor is an an exceptional way to help mediate the unpleasantness of social anxiety. I also have a fondness for club/organization kind of stuff... the small groups, at least. They're some very nifty facilitated interaction with people similarly interested people.

In other news, I had the 'intake interview' for my evaluation today; the earliest openings I could get for the 6 hours of psychological/personality/cognitive testing are in early May. I loved having the receptionist (over the phone) ask for the child's name I was making the appointment for, and I'll be damned if talking to the Autism psych wasn't infinitely more pleasurable than trying to talk to the jaded jackass addiction specialist I'd be going to for ADHD (who'd a'thunk?). The evaluation process is damned expensive... something around $1800 overall. God bless the awesome medical insurance I get through my dad's place of work.

this is where your inherent inability to pay attention comes in. again. i wasn't whining, and it isn't a fucking 'mental tick'. its a problem i'm being treated for and i'm dealing with it, hence the medication you gibbering illiterate. you're only seeing what you want to see. i'm willing to bet that your cunt-like friends or whatever you call them don't have anything remotely close to a serious problem. kind of like you, constantly complaining about how worthless you are and incessantly posting bullshit like "oh god its so hard to be emo oh my life is shit" like a fucking parrot. no one gives a shit.

the mere fact that you decided to connect my illness with my behaviour towards you just proves how much of a self-pitying fuck you really are. then you decide to follow that up with some whiny shit about how people at school are 'so dum lol'. the only one i can see whining in this thread is you, and surprise surprise, its about people being oh so awful around you and to you, and that you're the angelic innocent in the situation. it's always somebody else's fault.

oh, and you were an 'ass' about what i posted. connecting that with something as trivial as my behaviour on an internet forum? fucking hell. wake up and smell the coffee, you tactless cunt.

how about fuck off, Nate? if someone wants to take a cheap shot at what i said then i'm gonna reply to them the way i want to. and guess what? i wasn't trying to be amusing. i was being very serious. not everything i say is meant as a fucking joke and i'm not here to amuse anyone, your highness. i'm not a stupid fucking clown.

You're sure acting like a stupid fucking clown. I don't give a shit whether you feel like Gwan-Thwei insulted you or not. And I really don't give a shit whether you were joking or being serious. We have standards of behaviour on OWF and you were absolutely vile and disgusting.


Oh, and Gwan-Thwei, I don't want you to respond to MA's post either. The two of you are being put in opposite corners of the classroom and I don't want you to even make eye contact with each other.

Far be it from me to go up against a mod Nate but MA is only retorting in similar fashion to a whiny little shit is all.

well thanks for that, but i couldn't give a toss less what you have to say about me. think of it as vile and disgusting. fair enough. why should i care what you or anyone else thinks about it? infractions, warnings, -rep, none of it equals anything. stick your accusatory finger up your fucking arse.

I think we should all sit down, put the kettle on and discuss who has the largest sex organ.