You just contradicted yourself there, you said that our survival is the most important and now you're saying we'll disappear in the blink of an eye. If you want to survive, or even live we need to start repairing the shit we have done to this planet. It's like kicking your Mum in the face after she bought you a shiny new car!

The timescale on which we appeared (hundreds of thousands of years) is a blink of an eye in comparison to the life-span of the planet. I'd like our species to last at least another hundred-thousand years, not be wiped out because of our own stupidity.

So yes, it's important to conserve our environment for our own selfish well-being, not to save the planet. After we're gone, the planet will re-consume whatever we've taken from it - Or at least, the stuff we haven't blasted into space.

right? he's been doing it a lot. i was gonna make a shitty compilation of all his previous posts because of it, but was distracted by an advert for a porn site.

in the end i think i made the better choice and spent my time constructively.

I'm terrible at illustrating my points, so what I talk about seems to be total bollocks even though I actually have valid points - But you only get better at it by trying. I'm making a lot of mistakes which don't do me any favours but it's not like I have much dignity to lose.

You intelligent people need idiots like me to feel good about yourself. :P (Said the Clakkerz in Stranger - Except about being busy vs being lazy) Then you can look at sorry wrecks of people like me and think "Man, I'm glad I'm not like him".

you either illustrate a valid point or you don't. there's no "oh i just can't say what i mean but trust me its a valid point". the only person that gets away with that is Stephen Hawking.

lol, case and point I suppose - I misused the word "Valid" in my previous post. What makes a point "valid" is having enough info to backup my points so that they make sense. And also what's valid for me may not be valid for the next guy (probably because I haven't explained my point properly even though I know what I mean).

Unfortunately the only way of making myself easier to understand is to learn by doing, and I did learn from this just now. This is turning out to be a real eye-opener.

Phew!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel << ALGAE FUEL! This is what I was looking for the other day.

Pot kettle.

Hey, everything I say is so deep it has four meanings. Even this.

Oh no I won't. :P

Fuel from algae is an interesting idea, and that reminds me of this video that I found yesterday (though I'll admit that it's over my head a bit):

SCIENCE:


Hmm, this is from 2 years ago. I wonder what happened to this idea?

Oh, and I'll summarise earlier points:

• I don't think we should save the planet for the sake of "saving the planet". The planet doesn't give a shit about us - Like the rest of the universe, it'll continue as it always has done for millions of years and I don't believe there's anything we can do that will stop it. The recent earthquakes are case and point of this - They've always happened throughout the Earth's history.

• We should save the ENVIRONMENT and the ecology (which is different from THE PLANET in my opinion, even though one relies on the existence of another) for our own well-being - We need it to live.

• I believe that if people keep saying "Save the planet", then it disconnects "The planet" from "the human". It takes us out of the equation for some people, and that's a bad thing. They don't make the link between saving the planet and saving ourselves. This is why I'm saying what I'm saying.

Possibility #1: it is still in development.
Possibility #2: it has been quashed by special interests.
Possibility #3: it doesn't work.

Why hasn't anyone called anyone else a cunt yet? This argument sucks dick.

Cunt.

Now we're getting somewhere.

Heeeeee's back.

Cunt indeed.

Hooray!

Also, I think nuclear power is great, if not misused. I'm stupid in real life, but right now, I have self-esteem juice, so I can speak my mind with no regrets (yet).

Nuclear power has been brought down by the media in attempts to scare us off from us for reasons i don't really know because I'm not as intelligent/educated as Bullet Magnet. However, I do believe that the positives of Nuclear Power strongly outweigh the negatives, and, as BM said, most people are simply scared of nuclear power because it is, well, nuclear power. It has been driven into our skull by the cunts that we call our world leaders (whoever you want to tag as that, it's not like it truly means anything) that nuclear power = radioactive super-mutants like the Oblongs and Susan Boyle, but, in reality, and not Scottland (sorry any Scotts on here.. is Ridg3 scottish or irish? I forgot. I think WoF is scottish, so sorry, you pussy-blood loving fuck (yes, I've creeped OWF for quite some time)), nuclear power has the capabilites to provide us with great (redundancy) power, and can be a very useful tool to harness (maynard james keenan).

Worst post ever on OWF? Probably. Yeah. Cool. Ban me. Go ahead. Infraction time, Max? Nate? Yes. I taste you, much better. Lights out. Wet skin. On read leather. Check the closet. NIGHT TIME.

Your a fucking annoying drunk.

Well, you're a fucking annoying sober!

OOOOOOHHH!

Bungle on the booze!

Mr. Bungle's the big dawg now.

OANST returns and within five posts we're back to spamming memes.

high five.

THANKS!

Mah Boi?

You is!

Urrrrrrrrgh.

Strike Witch is a cunt.

Negreps for all!

The fuck happened here?

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com...0053214449.jpg

Negreps for Havoc too. Infractions for the next person to post offtopic.

The guy who made this does some interesting experiments. Not that this would be a substitute for nuclear power or anything on that scale, but if you scaled this up, I wonder how effective at producing power it would be?



(EDIT: This vid could equally go into the Oddworld Spotting topic. It uses the same music as that diving vid in said topic at 1:02. I wonder where the music is from and how it relates to Oddworld, if at all.)

Unless I missed something, I really don't think a mirror aimed at a pipe of water can heat it up to boiling point. And like he said, this needs unblocked sun to work. The second it even disappears behind a cloud partially the entire process shuts down.

He's using a parabolic trough - And as you can see in the vid, the water in the pipe gets hot enough to shoot steam out of one end and run that tiny steam engine from it.

Apparently, there's already a power plant in the USA that uses this technology. And yeah, you need to be in an area that gets lots of sun for this to work effectively.

The trick is to do it from orbit and beam the energy down to receivers as microwaves.

Bit of a technological hurdle, but the concept is sound.

This goes back to what I said earlier about this far-fetched idea of putting solar panels/other solar energy collectors on the moon, using the material already on the moon to manufacture them, then beaming back the energy to earth using microwaves. Might be just as much of a hurdle (if not slightly less of one in the long-term because you wouldn't need to blast as much material into space) as using satellites to do the same job.

You wouldn't need to blast any material anywhere if we had a space elevator. Which would as a by-product make several African, South American and South Asian countries very rich.

Running the numbers for fusion power, if fusion could match the global energy output of 1995, current Lithium reserves (for lithium fusion, obviously) would last 3000 years. Lithium extracted from sea water would last 60 million years. Deuterium (Hydrogen-2) extracted from sea water, for the complicated Deuterium only fuel cycle, would last 150 billion years. To put that in perspective, over ten times the age of the universe and 30 times the remaining lifespan of the sun. This is a potential non-renewable resource that could theoretically outlast, by an order of magnitude, so-called "renewable" energy sources.

I once heard a talk from the guy who invented the pacemaker in which he talked about many things, including nuclear fusion. He said that there was a particular isotope (I forget of which atom, it might have been Deuterium in a molecule with something else) that is fairly rare on earth because it is produced when the common molecule is hit by solar rays that are filtered by our atmosphere. There's a solid supply on the Moon, which may seem like a lost cause. However, he suggested that (if the technological hurdles in actually using fusion were ironed out) the cost of setting up the infrastructure for moon missions, sending men to the moon, mining, bringing the stuff back... would still result in less cost per energy unit than oil. And that was 1999 oil prices.

The only thing I can think of produced in the atmosphere by solar rays is Carbon-14, from Nitrogen. And the only nuclear fuel source on the moon I can think of is Helium-3, which is emitted by the sun in the solar wind but obviously gets caught out by our atmosphere and magnetosphere.

Did that fellow factor in a space elevator, or was it all rockets?