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Wings of Fire 02-10-2011 12:49 PM

Haha 'Vice torturer'.

Manco 02-10-2011 12:57 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...nation-rumours
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9.51pm GMT: This is interesting: the BBC's Paul Adams reports that people in Cairo are receiving text messages from the high council of the army, saying that it is monitoring how events unfold and will decide how to act.
I think the Army is up to something big here.

e: Ahahaha the photo on the front page of MSNBC: http://i55.tinypic.com/3a104.jpg

e2: Again from The Guardian liveblog:
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10.42pm GMT: Here's what we know, based on what's coming out of the Egyptian government right now: Hosni Mubarak is president in name only, after transferring all the powers of the presidency to his vice president Omar Suleiman.

scrabface 02-11-2011 11:51 AM

well he's gone. will something change? and what will come?

Dixanadu 02-11-2011 02:35 PM

Find out, on the next exciting episode of, 'Stuff No One Gives A Fuck About'.

scrabface 02-11-2011 02:52 PM

you're an idiot. it's simple as that.

Dixanadu 02-11-2011 02:57 PM

Yes, I'm stupid for not caring about Egypt.

Phylum 02-11-2011 03:21 PM

What's an Egypt?

MA 02-11-2011 03:56 PM

bomb those pyramids.

Nate 02-11-2011 04:12 PM

I sometimes worry about the average IQ level of the forums when there are members who still seem to think that the 'bomb those...' meme is amusing.



Anyway, as I said in Abe619's blog, he's stepped aside for a military dictatorship. I don't see this as a particularly good thing. Would have been better to call elections earlier and had a real transfer of power.

I sincerely hope that the next leader establishes a proper constitution; one that can only be changed by referendum and not on the President's whim.

metroixer 02-11-2011 05:58 PM

Glad to see I'm not the only one feeling uneasy about the military having the power, I'll admit I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to that kind of government but every time I've heard about one it hasn't ended well...

Manco 02-12-2011 04:59 AM

Well it was either the military or Suilman. I think things could have gone worse.

Hopefully, since the military's been on the side of the people throughout most of this, they'll do the right thing. I guess time will tell.

Bullet Magnet 02-12-2011 05:38 AM

The military seemed to have wanted to join the civilians during the protests anyway.

STM 02-12-2011 07:25 AM

...There were sufficient numbers of military personnel fighting and killing the civilians even at an unarmed stage though. A friend who lives in Egypt as a teacher has returned to Britain and showed us all these terrible pictures of the catastrophe and the military certainly wasn't on the civilian side at least, not a majority.

Dixanadu 02-12-2011 10:32 AM

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What's an Egypt?

Pyramid Head's hometown.

abe619 02-12-2011 04:41 PM

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...There were sufficient numbers of military personnel fighting and killing the civilians even at an unarmed stage though. A friend who lives in Egypt as a teacher has returned to Britain and showed us all these terrible pictures of the catastrophe and the military certainly wasn't on the civilian side at least, not a majority.

Those weren't military those were thugs hired by police and/or police...most of the military watched and protect and some of them even joined the protests, i think we can safely say the revolution ended successfully, military rule is only temporary for the next few months, it will be changed to civilian rule (idk if that's the word for it in english) after that.

STM 02-13-2011 07:21 AM

Is there a possibility that the army might enjoy their power to much to hand it over though? Power is the ultimate corruption.

Elmatto753 02-13-2011 07:23 AM

And corruption is the ultimate power.

STM 02-13-2011 08:19 AM

You mean knowledge is the ultimate power. Knowledge is power, power is corruption and corruption is stagnation, stagnation is rebellion, rebellion is power...etc

abe619 02-13-2011 09:24 AM

there is a very tiny possibility, but the troops are much better than police a while back when the protests in tahrir were still violent and huge, they had orders to fire at will, but there wasn't a single bullet fired that night or the nights after that.
and i agree power can easily corrupt the purest of people.

Elmatto753 02-13-2011 10:13 AM

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You mean knowledge is the ultimate power. Knowledge is power, power is corruption and corruption is stagnation, stagnation is rebellion, rebellion is power...etc

I suppose. Knowledge is good. I just like corruption, that's all.

Dixanadu 02-13-2011 04:25 PM

Tunisia and Algeria seem to have calmed a bit, too.

Newsworthy while it lasted.

STM 02-14-2011 07:50 AM

Heh heh, no the country can temporarily fester under a military government which of course knows nothing of politics and will make for a clueless three months. Note how the military is now keeping hold of power for six months, not two, and while the protests are over, is going to keep the peace by whatever means necessary.

Wings of Fire 02-14-2011 07:59 AM

People are already protesting against the military!

STM 02-14-2011 08:03 AM

Yep, those Egyptians need to feel the full force of the British Empire!

abe619 02-14-2011 10:47 AM

we already did once and drove them out back in the 1900's remember?

STM 02-14-2011 10:53 AM

I don't remember, I wasn't there. I do know however that you were allowed to break away from Britain...in the years after WW1. Then after the British helped the Egyptians in the African campaign against the Nazi's and components of the Old Ottoman Empire the Egyptians turned in 1952, with a terrorist force killing servicemen in Cairo and Alexandria as well as Suez.

Ungrateful pyramid builders.

No but seriously that was 60 years ago, I wish you the best of luck and I hope that the people do regain control of their country.

MA 02-14-2011 01:11 PM

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I don't remember, I wasn't there. I do know however that you were allowed to break away from Britain...in the years after WW1. Then after the British helped the Egyptians in the African campaign against the Nazi's and components of the Old Ottoman Empire the Egyptians turned in 1952, with a terrorist force killing servicemen in Cairo and Alexandria as well as Suez.

Ungrateful pyramid builders.

i bet a pith helmet would suit you.

Bullet Magnet 02-14-2011 01:51 PM

I often feel that of all the nations of the British Empire, Britain benefited the most from its dismantling.

Wings of Fire 02-14-2011 05:36 PM

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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has expressed her firm support for the thousands of opposition supporters who protested in Iran's capital on Monday.

Mrs Clinton said they deserved to have "the same rights that they saw being played out in Egypt" and that Iran had to "open up" its political system.
Shitstorm incoming.

Nate 02-14-2011 06:50 PM

Not really. The US has always toed a careful line in supporting the Iranian citizenry against their government.

Wings of Fire 02-14-2011 06:53 PM

That's hardly a careful comment.

Nate 02-14-2011 09:35 PM

Careful in that they want to support the anti-government groups, but aware that their approval can decrease the popularity and public trust in anyone or anything that they bestow it upon.

Manco 02-15-2011 03:38 AM

Never mind the USA's comments, I'm more interested in the fact that people are protesting. Is that a common thing in Iran, or is this another part of the domino effect started by Tunisia?

Wings of Fire 02-15-2011 07:38 AM

It's not unheard of, certainly.

Nate 02-15-2011 04:50 PM

There were major protests after their last elections that were brutally suppressed.

Bear in mind that Iran's demographics skew strongly towards younger people and much of the the population in the big cities are pro-Western and secular-ish.

STM 02-16-2011 08:22 AM

Iranian police have been ordered to fire on protesters with real bullets or rubber ones (apparently the choice is their own) so far hundreds injured and a few dead. =(

Mac Sirloin 02-16-2011 08:40 AM

But at least they're protesting. Imagine if this was just one magnificent domino effect, and the western world picked up the pieces. Imagine if somehow, we got the Middle East on our

Oh god, please don't let me talk world politics again.

Dixanadu 02-16-2011 09:34 AM

They're doing that shite in Libya now.

That continent is going to hell.

Bullet Magnet 02-16-2011 11:17 AM

They're all fed up of being treated like shit and being insulted.

Dixanadu 02-16-2011 11:24 AM

HOAH

Foreign intervention is necessary.