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T-nex 11-08-2010 01:40 PM

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The whole over-qualified thing is really pissing me off. I was lead to believe an education would give me an advantage in life, not hold it back indefinitely and prevent it from even taking off. That's bullshit. I dread to think what would have happened if I'd finished my degree. Though truth be told its difficult to be less unemployed than being both unemployed and off the dole.

Well i dunno if it's the same for you.

It's just in denmark we sort of have rules and minimum wages. Only the minimum wages are usually based on your qualifications and not the job.

Not only that, but employers don't employ people who are over-qualified because they need loyal people. And they know very well that many over qualified people will stay at the job just till they find a more challenging job. So yea.
But I don't think a newly graduate should have over-qualification problems o.o At least I don't think so.

OANST 11-08-2010 01:45 PM

That does sound like a pretty crappy system.

Nate 11-08-2010 05:52 PM

WoF: You've clearly never been unemployed. Even the poorest, least educated people will refuse a job that they consider 'beneath' them. Hell, I had massive arguments with the employment counsellor who kept trying to push me to apply for truck driving jobs.

The other issue is that long term unemployment is very unattractive to prospective employers. At least this gives people something to write on their resumes and, if it's a well designed system, new skills and the potential to make contact and find a job on their own.






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Hell, no! I've got this employment thing worked out! I'm stupid, inexperienced, and ugly. I'm a shoe in for everything!


Alcar 11-08-2010 10:31 PM

When I've been unemployed, I've never had the slightest urge to place myself on the dole.

In fact, I usually take a holiday :D

Alcar...

Ridg3 11-09-2010 02:09 AM

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WoF: You've clearly never been unemployed. Even the poorest, least educated people will refuse a job that they consider 'beneath' them.

In Britain's economic climate you don't really have a choice anymore, if someone offers you a job you sure as hell snap it up... regardless whether you think it's beneath you or not. Money's money at the end of the day.

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When I've been unemployed, I've never had the slightest urge to place myself on the dole.

Ditto, I don't like the thought of going on the dole and my parents are forever urging me to get on it whenever I do "lose" my job. I prefer to look for a job without the fallback of easy money from the Gov. It's makes the search all the more urgent whenever your funds start to run dry.

MeechMunchie 11-09-2010 12:17 PM

I don't like to lower the standard of conversation, but isn't this what the Nazis used to do?

OANST 11-09-2010 12:23 PM

No. This isn't compulsory. This is saying that the government is willing to give you some money while you are without a proper job, but you are still going to have to do some kind of work for it. You can always decline it and make nothing. Also, I would be willing to bet there would be a ton of exemptions built into the system, like being on unemployment for a certain amount of time, being a student, etc...

Wings of Fire 11-09-2010 12:24 PM

It's for NEETs, of course students won't factor into it.

OANST 11-09-2010 12:28 PM

That's just one example. I'm sure that people with medical issues would be exempt, too. Hell, by the time it got passed there would probably be so many ways to get out of doing it that it would be completely ineffectual anyway.

MeechMunchie 11-09-2010 12:30 PM

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No.

OK. *Leaves*

Wings of Fire 11-09-2010 12:31 PM

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That's just one example. I'm sure that people with medical issues would be exempt, too. Hell, by the time it got passed there would probably be so many ways to get out of doing it that it would be completely ineffectual anyway.

You mean like that pirating law we have?

OANST 11-09-2010 12:31 PM

Something like that. Or, more accurately, like the current unemployment laws.