wow this girl had some enormously big hands.

@ MeechMunchie

I think you mean Das Vaterland

I can tell you that none of the Germans and Austrians today feel in any kind a way responsible for what happened at WWII. there is no I am sorry I am sorry shit.

So there shouldn't be. I just wish the peeps in the former allied countries would similarly move on.

fuck you, bird-man.

yes there is. you fucked up. apologise. apologise now.

no aaand no. what should I apologise for?

Perhaps, but every German person I've ever met has gone out of their way to prove how nice s/he is and how much they love meeting and getting to know Jews. So whilst they aren't explicitly apologetic, they're definately feeling some residual guilt at one level or another.

People sometimes forgive and forget, sometimes they do not. Most Japanese really like Americans, but they're still batshit terrified of China. Though that might have something to do with China's constant threatening of their territory.

Likewise, over here on the Australian coast, we're all cool with Germans and stuff, but there's still an undercurrent of dislike towards Japan because of their proximity during WW2, and China because of Communism/ mining companies.

Yeah, and fuck the French for pussing-out before Iraq.

yeah well that's what I meant perhaps with government. our schoolsystem declared the Holocaust as one of the main topics in history. I had to learn one fucking year about the WWII. Which led to a "come on lets get it over with" mood. and that attitude is in some kinda way wrong, not morally I mean, but historically genocide is a big thing. but holocaust is the main topic in preschool and in gymnasium (only in history class of course)
so maybe these german Schmucks tried to shine, but what I can tell you is, the first time I went to the US, I was many times confronted with this topic and it always was a bolt from the blue. the history teacher showed us Vaterland with rutger hauer which was odd and one day before I left, my host mother and her son questioned me in the kitchen about the holocaust - while I was trying to eat macaroni with cheese. no one should try to explain the holocaust while eating macaroni with cheese.
and it is impossible to criticize Israel, because first contra is that's antisemitic. so any this or real antisemitic comments gets punished very strong and in public by the government. there was this drunk tram driver in vienna who said heil hitler into the speaker and everyone was so embarrassed so this guy lost his job and charges were pressed against him. well he obviously is a maniac and it's his own fault, but it is a little bit odd that if you say two words you get punished for the rest of your life? it's like harry potter the you know who. oh and he was tipsy, not really drunk because it was the last time this tram would ever drive again, so this was an organized party tram lol, with champaign n stuff
did I tell you how much I love jews? I love 'em all

Hey guys Hitler WAS A HUMAN BEING AS WELL

... as being a fucktard

Hitler wasn't a human being, he was a politician.

"I'm waiting for Jacob to eventually come out with "but is everything written about the Holocaust really true?""

Funnily enough, i wasn't going to mention the Holocaust.

But since YOU mentioned it - Hey! Hey, guys! So...that Lolocaust thing...think it's true? Eh? Guys? ...do ya? Think it's true? Jews? Guys? True?

Nah, i was just bored so i thought i'd make a thread to gauge everybody's general reactions to that statement.

TBF, i don't think Hitler was that bad.

He may've gone a little OTT with his "solutions", but other than that some good ideas were thrown all over the place that should really be picked up again.

Oy-vey!

And there's me thinking you were a Nazi sympathizer, pity, we could have gotten along so well.

Haha.

Nah, i'm generally against the whole purity argument on the basis that it weakens a race and makes a child's heritage less interesting.

I am fairly Right Wing, though, but it just irks me that there're no Right Wing parties that're intelligent enough to help society as a whole.

Such as? I mean, if you're going to make a statement like this, you should probably be a bit more specific. Was it his idea to have punch at the party gathering? Do you like his ideas on health care? What?

Also, claiming that you liked some of his ideas, and then qualifying that statement with saying that you're pretty "right wing" doesn't make much sense. Mainly, because the only "right wing" thing about Hitler, and the Nazi party was their treatment of minorities, and insistence on suppressing dissidents. Socialism is about as left as you can get.

I wonder what that says about Right Wing supporters.

"Such as? I mean, if you're going to make a statement like this, you should probably be a bit more specific."

I thought it was clear from the use of the word 'solutions'.

Yeh, the general idea to Gas Jews, Gays, Blacks...etc...etc...so on and so forth was fairly 'out there'.

In regards to the RW comment, his general ideas on work camps, experimentation on humans and 'aggressive expansion'.

There are some options here.

1. You didn't understand what I was asking.

2. I don't understand your answer.

3. You're joking.

4. You're a vile and disgusting person.

I have no idea which of these is correct.

I agree with Oanst but I'm taking it further.

From what I can tell you seem to be sympathetic towards Hitler and you seem to believe that what he did to people was 'out there' but can be overlooked. What is out there btw?
And before you answer, open up a word document and contemplate what your going to say since not a single post of yours has made sense in my brain.

If they were, they wouldn't be right wing any more.

But is everything written about the Holocaust really true?

Probably. There aren't many non-military cataloguing descriptions of the camps for example and millions of surviving Jews don't lie

Also millions of dead Jews. They are pretty hard to ignore.

I think it's less 'History is written by the victors' and more 'History is written by historians'. We don't hear about Hitler going to birthday parties or Nazi Party members knocking one back down the beer hall because it has little impact on life today, and there's only time to learn so much.

It is pretty much all true. (to enchilado, woops a lot of you beat me to this post.) History is written on different sides of the issue too you know, it's MEANT to be interpreted. And Scrabtrapman, nothing you just said makes any sense either. The holocaust was fucking horrible, and Hitler was basically a soulless bastard on Meth (or became one.) People may make a joke of this, but Methamphetamine does have the ability to remove human compassion and make a person have delusions of grandeur (similar to some types of schizophrenia) and that's why he gave it to the Nazi soldiers; so they did those horrible things without remorse. There's no reason to sympathize with Hitler like MeechMunchie said (although I get the impression you don't seem to like me MM.)

And none of you should criticize a country for not participating in a war. Go fight in one, I'm sure you won't be emotionally scarred or dead.

Germany's economy was about to burst again by the time they invaded Poland.

5. All of the above

i was just baiting you, but when i logged on and saw that you'd replied, i really couldn't be arsed to follow it through. what with being intoxicated and all.

Maybe you're all just taking that saying a little bit too literal, as it just means that the course of history is decided by who-ever wins/prevails. This is pretty obvious since history would be different if the other side won, now wouldn't it?

As for actual written history, I think that Hitler's book Mein Kampf pretty much says it all on that subject. He didn't win, yet he wrote. End of topic.

Oh arguments on the internet dissolving into the Holocaust. The one thing that will be forever contingent with the interwebs.

I heard the Jews were carried to the gas chambers in black helicopters.

DOES THIS MEAN SOMETHING

That's really not funny to make jokes about the holocaust. You're an ass.

well, you know, we are actually talking about Hitler and shit. it comes with the territory.

once again, your sarcasm fails.

It is funny, well, as long as the joke is funny.

My post was obviously a joke, you neg-repping cunt.

How many jews can you fit into a car?

Six million. Two in the front, three in the back, and the rest in the ash tray.

What's the difference between a jew and a pizza?

A pizza doesn't scream when i put it in the oven.

God even i'm joining in.

What's the difference between santa claus and the jews?

Santa Claus goes down the chimney.

What caused the Jew's biggest problem?

The greatest man that ever lived.

Why did Hitler kill himself?

Because he knew Germany were going to lose.

When did this stop being funny?

The moment you posted in this thread.

Who declared you king of comedy?