It's amazing how much you people think about the way Americans do and say things at all times. The British and the way they talk never come up in a normal conversation with me. Do you think the reason that you bitch about another culture's accent so much might be because you're a stupid, pretentious twat?

I think it might be.

Actually, "z"s and "s"s can be used interchangeably in both British and American English. The only time you can't use a "z" in British English is in words like "analyse". If you spelt it "analyze" over here, you'd be wrong.

Is that so? I guess it makes sense that they can be used interchangeably, we all used 'z' at one point, then we were the ones that decided to change those words back to an 'S' spelling, from a 'z' spelling, and then Americans and American English didn't.



..oh and that's nice OANST. I appreciate your concern, or something? You know what I find pretentious about Americans? The 'percentage game'. I find it ridiculously pretentious how proud you all are about what percentage of a culture you are.
I'm so sorry I came across as this 'pretentious backwards Brit', with my initial lighthearted nitpicking; I'm actually very fond of America, I'm so very sorry you've based your opinions otherwise.

Actually, no. This is what I'm talking about. I called you, you, you a pretentious twat, and your response was to call Americans pretentious twats for something that has nothing to do with our conversation. So, yes. You are one of those pretentious twats who are stupid enough to think that your obsession with the failings of American culture make your culture stronger and better, thus making you better by association.

Protip: It doesn't. It just makes you a pretentious twat.

I suppose he wasn't in the SAS genuinely then.

Yeah, shut the fuck up.

I wasn't aware we were talking about his SAS training. I was playing off the depiction of what makes a genuine survivalist as far as TV personalities go. Many thought he was but a man and a cameraman in the wild, until it was unveiled he wasn't..

Jesus Christ, look at you rant and rave. How was my responding of something offtopic with an example of something equally offtopic yet relevant to all things pretentious, not to do with the conversation we're having?!
And where is my obsession with the failings of American culture?! Where have I demonstrated that I dislike American culture? As a Brit, we make fun of ourselves on a regular basis, and expect to be able to make fun of every other culture in turn. I'm sorry if that's too much of an arrogant approach for you. Like I said, I apologise for my 'apparent' disliking of American culture. :fuzconf:

I do dislike American culture, and I've never got into this argument before. There's something happening here.

It's like you're saying that you don't eat hamburgers while eating a hamburger.

I'd only be contradicting myself if I genuinely meant:

Which I think I've established I do not actually mean?

I think you're just out to get me. And that hurts my feelings OANST. It really does. You seemed like such a nice Our Worst Member Ever initially.

Nah. You irritated me, so I told you. Not much more than that.

Really? I'm so sorry.

On my behalf, I'd just like to say how embarrassing this all is for me. :(

The only reason why OANST's countrymen don't spend their time thinking about cultural differences with the rest of the world is because most of them don't realise there is such a thing as 'The Rest Of The World'.

Insult to injury.

IDK, I shat my pants on an elevator once when I was like 10, pretended it didn't happen then rushed to the loo to clean my boxers. Was trying to fart and be funny/amuse my peers of the time.

Dang, that must have sucked. I shit my pants when I was 6 at school, and tried to play it off like nothing happened. Then my teacher asked me, "Do you need to go to the bathroom?" Not anymore. I must have reeked.

It's just picking on the newbie, America being the youngest culture in the world and all...

Off the top of my head I can think of at least 15 countries younger than America and several that weren't even settled by whitefolk until after America's independance.

I once pissed myself when I was 5 or 6 at school. Is that more socially redeemable than shitting oneself?

It was a reasonably small spillage compared to this guy a year later who left both a trail of piss, and his dignity, behind as he legged it across the classroom to the toilets.

He was also the kid who couldn't spell his own name. And the one that later became a jock..

SIGH

SAS training makes you a good survivalist. It doesn't matter how he acts on camera, because it's fucking SAS training.

Also, OANST really hit the nail on the head. I'm not even American (but at this point am so cynical about dumb ol' Canada that the two are more or less the same to me) and seeing people needlessly shitting all over Tha States because they can't think of anything better is so boring.


Anyway, I can't think of a most embarrassing moment. Nothing really springs to mind that I didn't make up for in an awesome way at some point.

Although the time I got into a fistfight and the guy rode my bicycle away was kind of crappy.

ah shit now im mad

Alright, calm down.
Perhaps I worded my initial statement slightly vaguely, I can't remember. I'm sorry that giving us falsehoods about how he went about his televised survival programme, doesn't agitate you because he has fucking SAS training.

Again, I never was being overly critical about American culture or language!, what I was stating was merely in jest. Its somewhat of a tradition amongst us with senses of humour. We play off stereotypes. You want to have a go at the legitimate Brits who really do hate your guts, not the ones joking around. Its unfortunate that my lighthearted comment didn't translate well over forums. Okay?

Calm down baby, have a piece of cheese.

Nobody is questioning whether you were joking. It wasn't funny, more like smarmy and poorly though out, but clearly joking. Feeble, flaccid humor that only the smarmiest of smarms use. H
Yes, it's certainly a good thing that all of the dumb young British people who really hate the United States aren't posting, what a crisis that would be. Too bad we're talking about people making needless generalizations that don't make any sense.
Really, all I've seen of Non-American America Haters are mindless cuntbubbles such as yourself spouting flamboyant nonsense based on an extremely limited understanding of American culture. A sort of derisive hyperbole. In the end, you kids always, always, always backtrack and either say "I was just joking." or just start pulling arguments out of your ass because you've been pushed into a corner by being a smarmy, pretentious turd, such as this one!
I'd like to think I know a wide enough array of Americans to safely say that not only are both of those assumptions untrue, but were possibly simply made up on the spot. Like, "Hey, you know what's funny! Americans use the word SHIT! AHRAHRAHRAHRAHRA"
I have seriously never heard a single human being across the entirety of North America brag about what "percentage of a culture" they are. What kind of a thing is that to think, anyway? How fucking petty can it get when you choose what is essentially just some kind of really vague smugness? Harmless, not-actually-existant smugness. That you made up. This is stupid.

Uh huh, okay then.
You are an incredibly agitated individual, aren't you? I guess I've just happened across a bunch of misguided Americans in the past then? I'll be sure to stay away from those so pretentiously proud of their heritage in the future, okay? Then I will clearly have a better understanding of not only American culture, but an appreciation for a culture, that it is clear, I so passionately hate?

Happy now are we? Hmm?

Fantastic!

Thank you for your time.

Passive aggression is for bitches. Little tiny bitches. Worthless bitches. Scum sucking, mother fucking, pussy ass bitches.

That's all I have to say.

Are we going to just let this drop now? A small quip about americanisation/americanization and my apparent fearing of its influence, whether you want to believe me or not, has led to this?

Come now, I admit to being pretentious if this is the result of it. Either way, we're all incredibly offtopic.

Can we please get back ontopic?

Actually, no. We can't. Mainly because you think you can win an argument by being passive aggressive, and "being the bigger person". Except you aren't really, are you?

1. You say you don't mean it, but then you say that all of the Americans that you've met must have been misguided and different from the rest. So, which is it? Do you mean it, or do you not? Make up your mind.

2. After being here a month, you do not get to tell us what is or isn't off topic. From now on, if you think something is off topic, I want you to pm me and ask. If I deem it to be off topic, I will tell you, and then, and only then, can you comment on it.

By your standards, OANST! I'm playing off of you now. By your standards clearly they're misguided if what I've experienced is different to your common knowledge of your people.
When I claimed Americans were a little prententious in the way that SOME like going around saying they're 2.7 % Irish etc., I was in no way referring to the entirety of the population! It was a passing remark, that I have clearly represented to be far more damaging that I intended. It was a "you guys, what're you like?" not a "your ways sicken me, I don't want to associate with you."

And I admit that it was indeed pretentious of me to have brought that topic up, but I felt I had to rival your claims that we're all pretentious for thinking we're better than Americans because our language is better and/or more preserved, which a lot over here seem to do. For Christ's Sake, if its anyone who's preserved the English language to the extent we're discussing in all things 'linguistical purist', then its you Americans! You've preserved it well.

And when have I stated that I'm better than anyone?! This is the thing which keeps getting to me, and its confusing me greatly. You seem to have it driven into your skull that I'm:

a) Against all Americans
b) Have claimed because I'm British I'm better than them, just by jokingly stating that my idiolect is to be 'tainted' if I'm around you guys.

I'd like to think this is all just common forum/internet misunderstanding. I really don't want to fight or dislike you, OANST, or get on your bad side, but I clearly have, and for that I am sorry. I am.

I don't think you are against all Americans. I think it was a pretty innocuous joke that you meant no offense by, and if you hadn't been the 50th person I've seen to make a similar joke in the past month I more than likely would have said nothing or even laughed at it with you. It's just that the whole "stupid American" joke is so old, and (like Mac Kastere pointed out) boring at this point, that it has become extremely grating.

I know we have some fairly old world ways of doing things, and many, many, many of us are screaming from the rooftops at every idiot in our nation who refuses to grow the fuck up and let others live in peace without the threat of their guns, or their religious intolerance, or their racial intolerance hanging over our heads. It's a hard fight, and it gets harder when you not only encounter resistance from everyone you know, but you are also lumped into the group of ignorant by those who live outside your culture simply because you belong to this culture. And I'm not saying that's what you were doing. I'm just saying shut the fuck up about it already because I'm tired of listening to it, no matter how well intentioned it is.

Stupid Americans...

Go touch a penis. Then report back.

3. Leave.

Well that is somewhat comforting, I can see your point well now. The 'stupid American' stereotype wasn't one I was looking to be associated with laughing at, originally I was just talking about Americanisation and its effect on language here, which is a little distant from that, but I guess in the same ballpark, right? ; )

As for the trying to get the topic back on track, I meant no agitation by that either, it was merely asking for a ceasefire opposed to directing you, of all moderators, to be away with it because I had 'triumphantly won' the discussion.

In future, I'll be sure to make that clear.
Again, apologies not only for this, but the 50-odd others you've had to deal with lately.

I appreciate your kind words.

Shut up Americans, go back to...

....

..America

Shut up Leto, go back to that coven of gay bears you command.

I hate to break up an emotional moment, especially one so near to resolution, but you do know he's not really a moderator, right?

DON'T RUIN THE MAGIC.

haha hmm, well.

I thought he 'moderated' what was accepted into that funhouse of death of his - (aka Necrum Burial Grounds?), not that that section has to be moderated, I just assumed he was in charge of what went in (after of course what other moderators have deemed offtopic).

So of all people, I thought he was one to know what's offtopic and what is not.

I assume I am wrong?

You're wrong, however he is the most reputable member of the forum, so his advice is probably worth listening to regardless.

Who the fuck is Chuck?

Chuck Schuldiner?