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Hazel-Rah 08-06-2010 04:20 AM

It's just a local militia, peanuts compared to some of our free standing armies.

Of course as you suggested we don't really know if the Glukkons wage war with beings from other parts of Oddworld.

GlukkonGluk 08-06-2010 10:29 AM

Seems to me that both the Magog Cartel and the Vykers Conglomerate are more than capable of war, if necessary. IS it necessary, though? If all they have to worry about are the already enslaved Mudokons, then they don't need to start any wars, and if there are any other species with the resources and the inclination to start a war, then we don't know about them, making this discussion complete and utter speculation.

Whew!

Andrelvis 08-06-2010 01:31 PM

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Seems to me that both the Magog Cartel and the Vykers Conglomerate are more than capable of war, if necessary. IS it necessary, though? If all they have to worry about are the already enslaved Mudokons, then they don't need to start any wars, and if there are any other species with the resources and the inclination to start a war, then we don't know about them, making this discussion complete and utter speculation.

Whew!

They might have to fight amongst themselves. But then again - is there a State that regulates them?

Andrelvis 08-06-2010 01:33 PM

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The Glukkons are clearly anarcho-capitalists, they don't waste money on military surplus and that's why they have such nice things :P

Megacorporations can spend money inefficiently and often do, which is why many fail.

Nate 08-06-2010 06:16 PM

Andrelvis; please don't double post. If you want to quote multiple posts you can use the multi quote button, or copy-paste the quote tags. If you've already posted, use the Edit button.

You've been around long enough to know better.

STM 08-07-2010 03:44 AM

I think that an large scale oddworld war could never take place simply because every army we have seen is led by an incompetent clutz! Look at the siege of last legs, defence was pants, And General Drippik well, he can barely remember his own name.

Phylum 08-07-2010 04:04 AM

They're small in the scheme of things. A full scale Oddworld war would be absurd because it would take ages to transport people around.

Andrelvis 08-07-2010 09:22 AM

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Andrelvis; please don't double post. If you want to quote multiple posts you can use the multi quote button, or copy-paste the quote tags. If you've already posted, use the Edit button.

You've been around long enough to know better.

Sorry, I forgot. I'm used to another forum which permits double-posting, and forgot for a moment it isn't here.

Hazel-Rah 08-07-2010 09:45 AM

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They're small in the scheme of things. A full scale Oddworld war would be absurd because it would take ages to transport people around.

What about the rail ways from Exodus?

Hulaabeo 08-07-2010 10:15 AM

Has anyone thought of Wolvarks? I know they are mercenaries, but what if they had a place in any army? Those huge ships over Last Legs could have easily laid waste to any city on Earth.

Wil 08-07-2010 10:28 AM

Yeah, until someone throws a rock up and pops the balloon that keeps it afloat. Even the massive motherships look damn defenceless against modern interceptors. It definitely looks huge and intimidating, but it's only sitting there not doing much.

Hulaabeo 08-07-2010 10:30 AM

Those were balloons? O_O

But even without those things, Wolvarks have a wider range of classes. For example, a semi auto.

Wil 08-07-2010 10:31 AM

They're all airships.

Hulaabeo 08-07-2010 10:36 AM

But what about those Shock Tanks, they must be good for something.

STM 08-07-2010 12:27 PM

It's hard to compare earth forces to oddworld forces though because we are so different.

You have to take into account mercenaries, industrialists, natives and raiders.

In industrialism I guess sligs have slig copters, slig tanks, mine cars could probably bet souped up but they also have fly boy corps, legions of sligs.

Mercs have foot soldiers ready to take on most ground forces but seem to lack and air force or a heavy division.

Natives are obviously barely able to construct a decent fighting force due to numbers and weaponry but I think a rag tag guerilla force that scavenged weapons from slig teams could stage a decent offense as an IRA type force

Raiders (like outlaws) seem to be good as gangs but too dimwitted to be taken seriously.

lycaon17 08-07-2010 06:53 PM

Oddworld technology is so poor and mostly hugely space and time consuming to build and use. Sometimes seemingly like certain factories are so big for the sake of just taken up space to harm the environment. However Oddworld has quite different technology, like levitating devices, energy based tools, teleportation devices, and ambient magic. I suppose their knowledge of space-time and gravitational commercial usage is far more advance and extensive than anything on Earth. However our Organization and Intelligence is...astronomical in comparison.

Phylum 08-07-2010 07:01 PM

A slig army would be dissorganised and clumsy.

Xavier 08-08-2010 02:29 AM

quite so


Wil 08-08-2010 03:55 AM

Makes you wonder why those Mudokons were so casually going about their daily business when the other side of the village should have raised the alarm several minutes ago.

STM 08-08-2010 06:21 AM

Also makes you wonder why none of those sligs where given guns and would appear to be ready to fight HtH

Sekto Springs 08-08-2010 10:43 AM

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Makes you wonder why those Mudokons were so casually going about their daily business when the other side of the village should have raised the alarm several minutes ago.
I'd like to think there wasn't actually anyone on that side of the village, and the sligs are just a bit too gung-ho.

Xavier 08-08-2010 01:49 PM

This video isn't canon, it was done as a visualization test.

Sekto Springs 08-08-2010 02:03 PM

And?
Wasn't similar footage used in the early Hand of Odd visualizations? Or am I thinking of the Sligs marching in front of the burger icon?

Xavier 08-08-2010 02:25 PM

Nope that footage wasn't used for the HoO visualizations. The Sligs marching in front of the mighty burger was though.

Hazel-Rah 08-08-2010 07:59 PM

Wow that's a lot of Sligs, if that had been official I'd say the Magog definitely wages war with other regions of Oddworld O.o too bad it's not...

Xavier 08-08-2010 11:32 PM

if they made such a video it's probably because it somehow represents something they wanted to show: plenty of sligs running at once.

I'm only saying that in the final version they could carry guns and that the mudokon would be more efficient..

Scraby 08-20-2010 02:52 PM

i think there is a slig army,the hand of odd is showing us the military might of the industrialists and the might of the natural forces.if we were invaded by industrialists,it wouldnt probably be 1000 of sligs and 300 tanks,it would be probably 50 000 sligs 1000 tanks 3000 flying sligs,slig fighter planes(i assume they have them)and helicopters,and mabe mobile artillery,or even somekind of nukes,or natural forces would probably build secret storm circles that would shut down our military factories and missile silos.

Andrelvis 08-20-2010 07:11 PM

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i think there is a slig army,the hand of odd is showing us the military might of the industrialists and the might of the natural forces.if we were invaded by industrialists,it wouldnt probably be 1000 of sligs and 300 tanks,it would be probably 50 000 sligs 1000 tanks 3000 flying sligs,slig fighter planes(i assume they have them)and helicopters,and mabe mobile artillery,or even somekind of nukes,or natural forces would probably build secret storm circles that would shut down our military factories and missile silos.

We don't know if they are actual (State) armies, or just corporate private "armies", though.

Fatherbrain30 08-20-2010 10:54 PM

True, since we haven't been in the alleged cities that Oddoworld has. We can't know for sure.

BTW de-lurking here.

ledsnipe 08-22-2010 03:30 AM

Go Sligs !!!!!!

GABBITS OWN 08-22-2010 03:33 AM

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Go Sligs !!!!!!

What you doing?

Xavier 08-22-2010 05:21 AM

He's spamming and so are you.

I highly recommend never trying to do so again on this forum.

lismati 08-22-2010 07:37 AM

I think natıve forces aren't so poor, imagine 1000 of muds chanting ın the same place, causıng storms that can destroy anythıng, possesıng half of an opposıte army, there would be muds rıdıng on scrabs, or anythıng else (elums, meeches, other anımals), they would be quıte strong too.

MuMI 09-07-2010 04:17 PM

Sligs are guards, not military force, period.