The only mice I eat are the ones that wander freely into my home. I generally leave them to the baseline owls.

I think that you may need to examine your reasons for doing it instead of writing three pages about why it's humane, or how the animals in the slaughterhouse have it worse. Why do you do it? Do you honestly expect us to believe that you wake up with a great fear in your heart that the deer are going to starve to death? I don't buy it. And if it's just about getting your nature fix, bring a camera and shoot them with that.

Bottom line: It gives a rush. There is a thrill involved with the hunt. Whether you use all of the meat, respect the animal, or do it carefully is all besides the point. It's also beside the point to call those that eat meat but don't hunt hypocrites. You don't have to kill. Your life doesn't depend on it. And yet you do.

Edit: To point out that this is directed at Jack. Not BM.

a large majority of the animals are culled on sight at their original location, and are then taken to the Slaughterhouse for meat preparation. only the 'big business' Slaughterhouses take in livestock from businesses, still alive. not all animals are killed in the Slaughterhouse.

you know, you really have to look a bit further into it. i'll bring up the classic and say if you had a family to feed, you wouldn't quit your job just because you didn't like it. some people wouldn't even quit if the job was affecting them mentally, especially during these times. see a new job opening and fucking go for it, that's what its like these days.

i meant that its pretty ironic that we killed the predators, and are now killing the prey due to the fact we killed their predators. and that makes it alright? well it'll have to, because we fucked up.

look, i'm not discussing this with you by pulling random bullshit out the air alongside hearsay, i have experience in it. i can't believe you think that. Slaughterhouses can take cattle, horses, sheep, pigs, even foul. please read up on what you're talking about or something, because that was not true.

i once saw a violent video of some reckless hunter, but i don't base all my evidence on this.

i don't hate hunters. some may, but i don't. i was arguing the point that it is extremely unfair to lump all good and bad Slaughterhouses together, along with their employees, and call them 'torturers'.

ignore him. he's like the Comet Halley, by means of he makes a valid, stable and airtight argument without looking a bit daft once in a blue moon.

Of course there is the thrill.

But saying hunters are inhumane monsters is just stupid in my opinion, when said by someone who doesn't have problem eating meat.
I don't wake up worrying about the animals starving, it's not like my life depends on it, I personnally think each time I went hunting, it was a small contribution to regulate the animals.


No, I don't have to kill for meat. But animals still gotta die to feed humans. Even if I never killed an animal in my life, somebody else killed the animals my packaged steak comes from. Of course, there's the option to only eat plant food but, well, mankind has been eating meat for too long to suddenly stop like that.

As I said, we're so much in that civilization thing that often, the only way to motivate someone to go in the woods is to go hunting, having something to add to your food stock once you're out. I sometimes go in the little place nearby to walk with my girlfriend, but I get sick of it quick, primarily because it's not a natural trail and it doesn't look that natural to me, with it being placed between a railroad and a factory.

I'll compensate for hunting by camping, if the budget allows us next summer.

As I say: Don't like hunting? Fine, but stop stepping on every hunter you meet's balls because you think they're wrong and your right. I think that vegetarian people are just strange ,eating only salads and having barely any protein, yet I don't go and call them weaklings for not eating stuff that has more protein. So, yeah, don't want me to call hunter-haters hypocrites? They might as well stop calling hunters jackasses.

And I'm gonna quote Havoc on that one.

If I was a frickin' admin, this guy would have got a warning for that, because no matter what belief you might have, it doesn't justify acting like a dick.

You're probably going to get a lot worse than that in your time here, grow some balls.

Also I agree with OANST on this one.

This is called making yourself feel better. Look, if you want to hunt, then hunt. I just don't want you to convince yourself that you are doing it for altruistic reasons. You aren't. You're doing it because it's fun. And while I think that's fucked up, it's your prerogative.

I certainly hope I don't get worse, as I don't like discussing with uncivilized people who can only insult. And growing balls have nothing to do with that, it's a matter of respect and insults should never have their place on any serious discussion.

Wait. You aren't the new Patrick Vykkerz, are you? Conservative viewpoint.... Complains about trolls.... YOU ARE!

Well, no I'm not, whoever that is. But I thought anyone who have been on a few forums know that respect has as much its place on a forum than in real life. Anyway, I'm getting off-topic here, but no matter how other people are used to getting responses like the one Havoc posted at me, I won't accept it "for the sake of growing balls".

Oh, I'm just funnin' ya'. But yeah, we all fear the day that PV, or his equivalent returns. He was the most evil cunt that we have ever had to deal with. We drove him off, eventually.

I'm not saying that Havoc really had any right to be rude to you, I'm just saying that it's an almost certainty that one day you will piss someone off, and they will not express it in a terribly chivalric fashion.

My recommendation: PUSH HARDER!

Only half-surprised, actually. If by that you mean people you get called "jackass" and what not eventually quit well I' m wondering if I gonna be here for long, since I never accept insults from anyone.

I guess so, but I certainly hope when that happens, the admins/moderators will do what they should do: tell them to cut it ou and give them a warning.

Bit of advice. The only thing that you will get from whining to the moderators when someone offends you, is the annoyance of the rest of the forum. If you dislike something someone said to you, tell them so, and move on. PV was famous for harping on the same comment 7 months after it was made. And we haaaated him. Also, telling the mods how to do their job is only going to earn you their enmity.

Well when I'm on a forum, that's what I'm waiting of the staff: Do what they're supposed to do. I won't PM them each time someone's calling me names but I won't hesitate if they do so three or four post after.

They do their job well. They don't need telling. You are being a bit of a prick at the moment, be honest. There's something about you that I'm finding to be very obnoxious.

Because I don't like when people like Havoc being a moron with me? Too bad, that won't change. As I said, I won't PM like crazy each time I get insulted by people like Havoc but I don't expect to take too much of it either. I've been on a few english forums and saw a staff that, instead of telling "Okay, cut it out!", they were more in the likes of "Okay, you, go throw yourself in front of a car! You, slit your own throat! And you, go f*** yourself!". Nice way to resolve a conflict, yeah.

So yeah, that,s why I'm skeptical, right now. Haven't been here for long enough to judge, so I,m waiting to see how the community is, here.

Anyway, let's drop it, we're off-topic here.

You'll learn to ignore Havoc. There's being pissed off and then there's being melodramatic. You are being the latter.

As you wish to see how the community are with each other, how about not kicking up a shitstorm before you've judged us? I'm embarassed to have contributed to this petty argument.

Our community is our community. We aren't going to change for you. And if you end up leaving, well, you'll just be one in a long line of noobs to do so. No skin off our back.

At any rate, pm's are fine. I'm referring to those who whine about moderator intervention in the middle of a thread. It's annoying. So, don't do it.

Fine then, I won't do it. And I'd gladly ask you to not call me a noob, since it's not the first forum I've been on.

I'm not melodramatic. Simply, I can't take shit like Havoc told me and I don't want that kind of thing to happen again. If expressing my beliefs will get me stuff like he threw at me then why do I bother posting?

Welcome to our planet. Sometimes people won't be nice to you. The great thing is that you have the option of telling them that they are douchebags, and explaining where they went wrong. We do that to Havoc all the time.

And you'll be a noob until the day that I no longer have to describe to you the way that our forum works.

Whatever. I won't consider myself a noob since Oddworld Forum is not the first english community I've been on. And I sure wish this one won't repel me like the others.

Book your ideas up, and we won't.

So, how about that hunting eh?
The last thread I made got locked, you bitches are NOT getting to this one.

Noobs never consider themselves to be noobs.


Ain't I a stinker?

No one who has a default think they have it. But for me a noob is someone who doesn't know how a certain thing work. Now, I,m a noob in this forum but it's not the first english forum I've been on so I'm half a noob.

Last word, anybody?

No thanks, please. :/

I win?

It's not a competition.

I know. You aren't even in the same league.

I'm in no league. I'm on a forum having a discussion.

This isn't a discussion. This is a pissing match.

Whatever. It's already off-topic but do we have to make it worse?

Do you see anything remotely interesting going on at the moment? Of course we have to make it worse.

If you continue to post, I will continue to respond.


I know that I'm going to at the very least get mod sized negrep for this bullshit.

....Whatever.....

Hey, why don't you go kill something other than this thread for a change.

hahahahahahahahaha

you are in NO fucking position my friend, NO position. compared to the hazing previous members have had, you got the wet dream version.

Havoc's comment pissed you off this much? Havoc's? fuck. if you stay for longer than a week, which i don't think you will, you'll soon realise how much of a 'noob' that makes you already.

now shut the fuck up and start talking about killing animals again. you didn't even reply to half our posts directed at you when we were debating, you just sort of dropped it and concentrated on one speck of piss. now we're just trolling.

fucking idiot.

Oh, that's going to go over well.