Wah??? I don't wanna discuss it.. Frankly I want this to die ASAP.

I feel like my words and image have been twisted enough. I said what I wanted to say. If OANST believes me or not, or decides to put me in bad light, that's his choice.

But I have faith that the rest here will be able to see that this is an issue taken out of context and blown way out of proportions.

If the rest of you want to discuss whether young-looking anime characters in animes are pedophilia-material or not, thats on you guys.

But I want to make it clear that I did not make this thread and I didn't want it either.

But since it's all split and mess up now here are the highlights:


I made a joke about a crossdresser.

Oanst saw a child and started the whole pedophilia bable.

I did not want, so I tried to defend myself.


Nothing else to be said here. I believe my opinions have been expressed in my previous posts.

i don't really know what the issue is here, but i think we all need to

idk

stop for a minute

I don't particularly care either way, I view a character based on the author's writing of it and how they behave in their chosen medium. What someone else sees is bullshit compared to that.

Here's an idea, everyone shut up and close this discussion. It was stupid to begin with. Close this thread or I will fling feces.

you will fling feces either way.

This is true. But srs, close this.

That's the purpose of the mod message in the OP; so people know that it wasn't actually initiated by that person.

Don't treat me like I'm stupid, Nate. I saw the mod message, but I still think it would be more polite to post it under your own name as opposed to Nikki's since she wants nothing to do with this conversation anymore. Perhaps, in general, you should ask everyone involved if they want their own thread first, especially considering that particular conversation had already ended by the time you singled it out.

Guys.... No more negativity. I'm fine, and don't be mad at Nate. I'm sure he didn't mean anything bad with it.

ok so uh

this is

kind of awkwardly painful now

to yuu ohanashi datta no sa.
The story ends in that way.


Let's just not post if we don't want to continue, yes?

in other words,

urusai desu neeeeeeeeeeeeee

Not physically possible. A split thread takes on the name of the first poster, chronologically.

I wasn't actually trying to create a new thread; I just wanted to move the spamiversity out of the other thread. Besides, by the time I send PMs to all the posting members and wait for replies, I'm in a whole world of just can't be fucked. I do what I do and you'll have to just trust that I have my reasons.

Now, if you think this thread should die, just don't post in it any more.

You people can be so fucking retarded sometimes.

Ghost, this entire thing is all your fault. Go to your room.

I'd rape the fuck out of that baby.

You can quote me on that.

done.

HOW HILAAAAAAAAAAARIOUS

I can't fap to this.

Alcar...

Nate, you try too hard.

Don't worry, you'll never sink very low like I did.

When the author's view on it is obvious self deception, I think it does matter.

You don't know that, so you really can't do anything but assume.

To clear this up, that picture of Watarase Jun is fanart, not an official image. His character in the show and dating sim is a childhood friend of the main character who dresses like that for the "good" of his friend, but the protagonist has no interest because he's not gay. So Jun is the only character you can't have sex with in the game, or even romance.

Oh, well that makes it all okay.

And for the record, you saying that my opinion doesn't count doesn't necessarily make it fucking so. If anything, you are the one with the suspect opinion. Rabid fans don't typically think too clearly about the subject of their fandom.

this thread is the largest stain on OWF

Of course, then we wouldn't be fans, would we?

I'm saying I really don't care about it all any more. Sorry if you thought I was belittling you.

stop it

I understand where you're coming from. You enjoy this stuff from an artistic standpoint, and you also have an emotional attachment to the material. However, if these people were drawing these characters with a young teen appearance, and then saying they were older teens, well that wouldn't be such a stretch. As has been pointed out, there are a lot of very petite people out there. The problem that I have is when you start trying to pass off children who appear to be anywhere from seven to nine as being sixteen. Unless you are qualifying this by stating that they have some sort of anti-ageing disease then there is no other logical conclusion that I can come to other than that these people are sexually attracted to the form of small children. And no amount of transparent "it's art" talk is going to make it more than what it is: foul and repugnant.

It's anime, the least accurate portrayal of humans in the known world. Stfu. Its not a child, it doesn't look like a child (to me at least), and even if it was, did I mention it's anime? Fiction. Ink. Cartoon. False.

To argue that it's anything less than a drawing of an anime dick-chick is petty. You should all know by now that age, gender, and orientation are all fucking ambiguous in the anime world, so remove the stick from your ass already.

I'm tired of flogging a dead horse, and I feel like a bastard for posting in here yet again. It's just that every time I see this thread squirm its way back to the top of the board I feel an urge to point out, again, how incredibly stupid it was in the first place.

http://s.bebo.com/app-image/79253642.../anime_boy.jpg
Boy or girl? Legal or underage? Better question; who gives a fuck? IT'S ANIME!!!!

In the immortal words of John Wayne Gacy: "I can't fap to this".

I'd tap that.

Not a single piece of this spoke anything more than "This thread upset my girlfriend, and so I think it's stupid". Yes, it's anime, but that doesn't mean that these people aren't drawing exactly what they want to draw. Non-pedophile anime artists are quite good at drawing people according to their age. Your argument however, is that this sort of thing is so common that it's stupid to even comment on it. Well, that's pretty fucking stupid.

It is a child. It looks exactly like a child. Which means that whoever drew that is living out a sick fantasy through their "art". Should it be illegal to have something like that? No. Does that mean that isn't repugnant, or disgusting? No.

So, to end I will say this. The next time you are basing your argument on whether or not your fucking girlfriend wants a thread to end, get the fuck out and come back when you have something relevant to say.

And your argument speaks nothing more than "I'm a daddy now. And my paternal instincts demand me to some how indirectly protect my daughter from pedophiles by putting up a big stink over an anime drawing of a girl that looks underage"

This is noble, and I have nothing against you or your daughter. I'm just saying that your feelings are misplaced in this situation.

It's not a child. Ghost, the original poster of the picture, confirmed this. And it's a pretty big assumption to say that the artist is living out some "sick" fantasy through this drawing. Have you ever even watched anime? All the characters look like that, even the adult characters. There's nothing "sick" about it, nor is there some kind of hidden meaning to their design, its just the way it is and always has been. If you don't agree with the way they're designed, fine, but it still stands that just because it looks like a child doesn't mean it is one.

However, if you're only continuing this argument for trolling purposes and it's meant as a big joke; then more power to you. Because thats fucking awesome.

So there won't be any more pleas to have a topic that you don't care about closed, or at least changed to a different author? That's too bad, as those posts were really fascinating to read, and helped put an end to the conversation so well.


For those of you who are too new to know this, what you see above was my default posting style for years. I stopped it because I finally realized that I was being a dick, and it was uncalled for. I no longer go around picking fights with people, calling them stupid, and just all around belittling them. However, if you push me, I will push back. And I push harder.


Edit: Your post is completely different now.

You say that they all look like that, and I say that you are out of your fucking mind, or blind. They absolutely do not all look like that. And it doesn't take progeny to be disgusted by the portrayal of children as sex objects.

So now you have an opinion on the subject. Was the thread stupid because you disagree with me? Am I stupid because I find it distasteful when I see the form of a child with a hard on? Am I not entitled to think that the authors of such pictures are being dishonest with themselves, and their viewers by claiming the pictures to be something other than our eyes tell us?

I didn't make any allusions to anyone's sexuality (I explained to T-Nex early on that my post was a joke just as much as hers was), or intelligence. I was merely having a discussion. Either join it or shut the fuck up with the whiny "This should be closed" bullshit.

please for the love of god

Hulk smash!

Meh, I really am done. I don't like having it out with Mat as I like him too much. I'm just one of those guys that always has to say something.

Eh, bored with the subject.

I get where you're coming from, OANST. It's just that watching shows and stuff where characters like these were portrayed as older has changed my view of them, so I think differently from you on this subject. There's really not much point arguing, so I'm gonna take a page out of the Chinese Thirty-Six Stratagems, and run the fuck away from the problem.

In retrospect, the "I push harder" thing made me sound like a massive douchebag. I stand by everything else, though.

Will somebody please close this already. I think everybody wants us to paper over this piece of history. Of course, it may be the mod's revenge for the volume of spam-filled threads they have to close, that they are now not closing one thread we unanimously dislike.

Close

This

Shit