Socially, Left.

Economically, wishy washy as a motherfucker.

On a federal level, left.
On a state level, right.
But that's mainly because the federal right are in a shambles and the state left are a bunch of cockspanks.

I tend to verge towards the centre-left (which would probably count as far-left for our American members) on issues but I'll vote for whichever party speaks to me most at the particular time.

It seems to be "You and me against the world" where this forum is concerned. :D

... Think we should start digging a bunker yet? XD

No no, remember we are the ones more likely to be the cause of people digging bunkers.

Being rightys after all.

Left to Centre-Left.

i'm right-handed, if that helps.

I use both wings.

I read a very good essay by Orwell at the end of Animal Farm in which he totally and utterly derides the Far Left for being a bunch of hypocritically Conservative dicks, when it suits their purposes, through eight pages and only once mentions the Right in the context of ´Well we all know they´re dicks anyway´.

George Orwell is now my favourite social critic.

I guess by the looks of things, I'm the only Right-Wing supporter here.

Maybe it's a Glukkon thing, but I never saw things from a left-wing perspective.

Apparently you didn't get a very good look at things. There have already been two right wingers outed.

Oh, yay! Theres 3 of us now. We can all smoke and drink in the boardroom!

I'm all for booze and smokes :D

Enjoy your close-minded circle jerk.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have an appointment for an open-minded circle jerk.

Hey!

I'm sure theres open and closed minded people on both sides of the fence buddy...

I'll have you know that I'm pretty open-minded, thank you very much. At the moment, it's you who is making a close-minded statement. I'm just sick of the way my government is handling things and sick of all the illegal immigrants entering my country. If the government isn't going to do anything about said illegals, then I will.

EDIT: I'm also tired of my country's culture being stamped out by foreigners who demand law-changes and such to suit them, whereas if WE were to visit their countries, we'd be forced to conform. That pisses me off greatly. I want to live in Britain, not Britainistan.

Well said.

I blame the Muslims. I live in Australia, so we know well what a 'multicultural' society is like. And yet alot of the drama and 'issues' we have always seem to come from, you guessed it.. The Muslim community.. They are running havoc in Europe, trying to get their own laws (and suceeding in some nations) while they couldn't give two flying #%^&'s about anyone else's culture. The more they grow, the more change, the more change, another piece of your country goes right out the window, makes me sick.

I'm thankful that at least some Muslims here are happy to be Australian at the same time, wish that was the case on a global scale however.

But whatever, their oil is still sold in US currency so 'LOL' on them.

whoa.

whoa!

hey. don't bring Havoc into this.

Precisely. Y'know what? They were actually protesting in the streets when our soldiers returned. Making our own troops feel unwelcome in their own homeland. At that point, I thought 'Fuck it. You know what? If you don't like the place and feel that it's full of 'murderers', then piss off back to your own country and see if it's any better there. You can all pay back the benefits that you reaped from the government in the time that you've been here too, so that they can help our own people instead.'
Bunch of bloody wasters. They haven't exactly had a good impact here either.

You know, I'm really glad that our immigrants are mostly Mexican. Really glad.

look what you have bloody started, shaman. just look.

how does that make you feel?

Ah Molluck's assistant, where have you been all my life? Hilarious... LOL

@ Psychocath
It's disgusting... They continue to play 'We're the victim' card, time and time again. I still remember the MI5 warning that over 60/70% I think? of Muslims in the UK have possible contact with terrorists.

That the majority of british muslims view themselfs as Muslim first, not british. And the problem is these muslims that move into Europe or else where, alot of them do so to escape life back home. But when one family moves, others follow, and the whole piece of Whatever-istan comes with them.

They don't trust our law enforcement, they don't weed out suspected terrorist activity. And when the Muslims are on the streets showing just how much they want western society to burn, the ones that enjoy living with us are hiding in their homes. So What the eff, hey mate?

It'll all come to a head at some point when they get big enough and we can't take it anymore. When that happens you can expect a various ammount of dickheads on the news talking about how "no one saw it coming".

@ EVP
Yeah, I feel that they're going to undermine every country they go to, and nobody will realise until it's too late. Problem with Britain is, the government is too soft. It's one law for the muslims and another law for the natives, pretty much. Wouldn't wish this particular breed of immigrant upon any country.

There are probably a few who do actually enjoy living here, yes, and as long as they're productive members of society who don't go forcing their bullshit upon everybody else who resides here, I'm fine with them. But at the moment, it seems the majority are trying to reform my country by force. I can't stand it, and I'm going to take action if it gets any worse. Call me extremist, but you'd be in my position too if you lived here.

(Another problem is immigrants taking what little jobs we have left, then sending the money to their families back home. That money isn't going back into circulation here, and our economy is crippled enough as it is.)

'sigh'

the never ending cycle of human conflict.. blood will be spilt again... But hey! A another war means more mass production = more moolah!

I try not to think about the Islamic Europe theory, it troubles me in my beauty sleep. Bad enough all the experts/old guys with degrees rekon Europe is already lost. If the European Union was ever under the sway of Islamic Interests, we have a very serious threat to national security, and to overseas interests that I don't even want to think about.

But I don't think that nightmare scenario will ever happen, have faith my Western brother!

I'm going to go ahead and write the last three posts in this thread off as hogwash and swill.

Just like muslims write off our culture as hogwash and swill.

If you want to be ignorant and live in your multicultural bubble of 'everything is all fine and dandy' go ahead. A good hour on google with this topic in mind will provide all the evidence required...

And what will you say then? Overreacting or not, these problems are real, the issue at hand is real. Just because you may not agree with the extent of the problem that I see, doesn't mean the problem is not there.

god sake shaman.

WOAH!
Not ALL muslims are like that. Don't judge a whole group because of what some of them do.

The problem in Europe is the political correctness our politicians have on this issue. Everyone knows Islam is starting to become a problem in Europe. They move to a European country and then expect that country to start changing for them instead of the other way around. And don't you dare say anything about their ways otherwise they will strike you down with the racism card.

According to our prime minister we should be accepting of the Muslim culture and if Dutch laws prevents an Islamic person from following their religion then by all means we'll change the law. Islamic schools? No problem. Teach Arabic as a third basic language in elementary schools? Sure, why the hell not.

With all this going on it's no wonder a political party has stood up to fight this. They have been asking all kinds of touchy questions regarding Islam and stuff which has gotten them a lot of followers. In fact they are the second or third biggest party in the current ratings for the next elections. In my opinion they are right on a lot of matters, not all, but a lot. They ask questions which the softy lefties don't want to ask because they want to appeal to everyone.

So what do you intend to do about it?

I'll be clear here.

I don't think all muslims are like that. I know all muslims are not like that on a personal level. Muslims have lived in peace in my country long before this all started... And we have anyone you can think of.. african, french, british, yanks, chinese, jap, greek, turk, arab, more chinese, indo, german, russian, spanish, leb etc etc.. And then there are the aussies like me! :fuzwink:

We have a great variety of food here.

He intends to treat their culture as if it were a plague that needed to be wiped from his country. But wait. Isn't that your complaint in the first place? Hmm.

DANCE PUPPETS DANCE!

The opinions expressed by any persons participating in this thread are not Necessarily the opinions of shaman or any of his employees...

What are you? Some kind of traitor?

Bottom line, you support freedom for everyone to live their lives in peace, with their own cutoms, together. Or you are with the Islamic "my way or the highway" movement.

Like I already mentioned, I'm Australian. I don't consider any culture a plague on my socitey because being all mixed together works here. But here is the problem:

It's not working in europe.

They have zero intention of trying to embrace or live with euro customs. Things will change, for better or worse I'm sure.

@Anonyman!

Well I lack the funding for a private army so I guess genocide is out of the question at this point. HA-HA What do you mean "what am I going to do about it"? Thats not my call to make mate, I'm not in charge.

Although i am a nationalist, i am going to play an unexpected card here and not touch this discussion with a thirty foot pole.

At least for a little while.

shaman.

Not just some kind. The awesome kind.

I was going to post a long rant about ethics and multiculturalism and war and then bullshit the Republicans, but I really can't be arsed, so I'm simply going to reccomend that EVP_Glukkon and Psychocath read Dude, Where's My Country? by Michael Moore.

I’M KOREAN

SON OF A BITCH ENGLISHMAN

ENGLISHMAN IS PIG

DO YOU WANT A FISH?

DO YOU WANT CHIPS?

ENGLISHMAN IS PIG DISGUSTING

ELIZABETH WALKER MARY IS A MURDERER

FUCKING G.B.

Just keep in mind none of us would even be here if it weren't for take over after take over of other cultures.

You're Canadian. You lie.