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Hobo 02-07-2009 01:24 PM

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You are all the media's bitches, stoked up into a rage by experts and loosed onto the opinion columns and public forums with the precision of an arrow.

"The normal thing"? "All the violence and general shit"? Just how prevalent do you think this stuff is? Don't you realise that news shows and papers never represent accurate samples of society? They have a catchment zone of the entire country to filter all the most sales worthy news from, and it is downright naive to think this stuff is common or everywhere or getting steadily worse. Moral decline is a myth inadvertently created then deliberately propagated by improved reporting ability (if not quality). You are not using your heads when they exploit you this way, they are gunning for your most basic, primitive emotions, leading us to our most basic, primitive conclusions. This is what sells, after all.

Do not be suckered into it. It is a cheap trick that you should all be above.

This. Am so surprised at the immature views of most of the posters in this thread. BANS FOR ALL

Nemo 02-07-2009 11:28 PM

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Yeah I know it's Wikipedia, but there you go. Voluntary is when you have intent to hurt or damage someone, but it gets out of hand and it kills them instead.

But what if it isn't recklessness? Like, if you're driving along, and suddenly you accidently drive over a nail or bit of broken glass, and pop the tire, causing you to spin out and hit someone, killing them?

Bullet Magnet 02-08-2009 12:41 AM

The technical term for that is "accident" which is not a crime. Not yet, anyway.

mitsur 02-08-2009 10:58 AM

The difference between the two is involuntary manslaughter is when you're being reckless, like you're playing around with a gun and you shoot someone when it goes off accidentaly. An accident is when like the thing above, where you pop a tire out of nowhere, lose control, and hit somebody. You couldn't have done anything about that. But with the gun, you were just plain irresponsible.

Bullet Magnet 02-08-2009 07:03 PM

Unless the tire pops because of negligence on your part. Checking the tires is part of a driving test for a reason. You'd be screwed.

used:) 02-08-2009 08:16 PM

Just a small notion. My biology teacher mentioned how a lot of prisoners suffer from Jacob's Disease, a genetic disease which results in higher aggression. I don't support the idea, but what about if eliminating the individuals who have Jacob's Disease would improve society?

skillyaslig 02-08-2009 09:57 PM

Bah, Law.
I remember hearing from the new about some guy who raped, and killed this teenager, I can't remember what her age was, around 16-19, that he had been stalking and the guy got caught a few days later by police.
He protested that the police used excessive force, and he got reconciliation money paid to him. Also, he only got 20 years, but he was on bail at 10.
Justice my ass.

Nate 02-08-2009 10:00 PM

Ten years is still a frigging long time.

Bullet Magnet 02-08-2009 10:02 PM

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Just a small notion. My biology teacher mentioned how a lot of prisoners suffer from Jacob's Disease, a genetic disease which results in higher aggression. I don't support the idea, but what about if eliminating the individuals who have Jacob's Disease would improve society?

We'll just quietly sneak in that little eugenics program.

I tried to look up Jacob's Disease, but all I found was mad cow.

mitsur 02-08-2009 10:22 PM

Used, once you start taking out those pesky aggresion-causing genetic diseases, where does it stop? Let's snip off the revolt genes, maybe cut out the paranoia chromosomes, and hell, why not get rid of the uncomplacent alleles while we're here. All in the name of preserving a calm, peaceful society. Because, of course, revolts, uprisings, and resistance endangers the common folk by ousting the government that keeps all of us happy and safe.

I exagerate of course, but only to further my point.

Bullet Magnet 02-08-2009 11:06 PM

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I don't support the idea


Havoc 02-09-2009 07:45 PM

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Just a small notion. My biology teacher mentioned how a lot of prisoners suffer from Jacob's Disease, a genetic disease which results in higher aggression. I don't support the idea, but what about if eliminating the individuals who have Jacob's Disease would improve society?

So based on some genetic default you have no control over you'll be deemed unworthy for society? That's a little extreme, don't you think? Besides by that standard America would finally have its excuse to shoot gay people or mutilate people with red hair.

IMO the death penalty should not be something standard, AKA murder = death. The death penalty should be an extension of natural selection. Reserved only for people so stupid, so dense, so ignorant that they pose an immediate danger to everyone around them but themselves.

To give an example, the forest fires in Australia right now. Someone who put those fires on on purpose with the knowledge of what would happen should be shot in the kneecaps and thrown in a sharktank.

Some random persons who started the fire as a prank, without overlooking the consequences, are to retarded to begin with. If you're too dense to stop for a moment and overlook even the possible consequences of your actions you should just be ended right there.

Strike Witch 02-10-2009 02:00 AM

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Ten years is still a frigging long time.

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people understand just how long Jail sentences are for the dude inside. Especially for a guy who isn't a thug or a gang dude, it's going to be long, lonely, and painful in there.

Although, are there statistics on repeat offenders in stuff like murders, rape, and child pornowhatever?

Mac Sirloin 02-10-2009 04:19 AM

What Used suggested worked in the Book Hominids, and that was a good book, so I agree.