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Recording their brainwaves isn't the issue, interpreting them is, which is pretty damn impossible. The mind is not a book that might be read with the proper equipment, most of our thoughts do not even occur descriptively (your mind's voice), rather conceptually, which can neither be represented in any other form without the thinker translating for us. You'd need a willing participant to interpret your readings, essentially telling you what he is thinking in the usual way. [/offtopic]

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CUT OUT EITHER THEIR INNER EAR ON ONE SIDE AND/OR EYE ON THE OTHER SIDE

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Also note that most people in jail over here in England are because they aren't paying tax rather than those who murder. Monetary crimes are alot more serious here than anything involving injuring or killing people. I'm not even bloody joking, it's a joke over here.

Life sentences would seem a greater punishment (provided they're not kept in too much class, which seems to be the case. Homeless people deliberately get thrown in jail because it's better than being on the street...wtf) than death penalty, however, after a while a prisoner could easily become used to it and not give a s*it, the places are fairly lax anyway (there was news about prisoners getting hold of drugs in there...yeah...), and the fact that life sentences never are these days. I've heard of people having a life sentence for about 5 years, then getting out. Point being?

I don't think there really is a right solution to this...too many scumbags as it is, jails full, planet overpopulation, life sentences not working, but is death easy way out blah blah blah...
Neither option seems viable these days. We need holy judgment or something, I swear. Hopefully, if our technology gets good enough, we can read peoples minds with them, to prove innocence or guilt. Rather than a freakin' court. Wonder how long it'll take for that though.

Yep, English prisons are the shit. And in this case I don't mean "the shit" as in awesome, I mean the shit as in....well, shit. I don't think I could mention shit any more in 1 post without getting onto a discussion on laxatives, but that pretty much is still accurate on the standards of the British justice system.

And truth is, the appallingly good prison standards, combined with the soft sentences, is another reason for me being in favour of capital punishment.

And I still maintain that the method of with a single bullet would be cheaper, quicker and ore economic. And it can't be murder when the guy getting killed is a murderer. As far as I'm concerned, once you commit that kind of crime and violate someone else's human rights to such an extent, you no longer deserve human rights yourself, and hence quick n' easy executions are not murder.

Having said that, I believe Peter Martin was 100% in the right when he killed a burglar and wounded another when they broke into his house, and that he shoudn't have gone to jail, but that's a different kettle of fish. Martin killed a guy who'd broken into his house, could be armed, no knowing what he'd do, so I say that's not murder, but is instead self defence against unknown dangers from criminals who've broken into your house at night and for all he knew at the time may have been armed. To me that isn't murder, not at all.

I'm actually thinking Zerox's suggestion of divine judgment may be the only thing that'd 100% truly work, assuming it was the real God speaking first hand.

Another problem I have with capital punishment is the fact that the judicial system is basically hiring a government sanctioned murderer.

What happens if he begins to enjoy his work? What separates him from them, apart from the wishy washy idea of 'Serving Justice'?

Yeah, that is a good point. If they start to enjoy the killing......I have no real answer to that. But other than that I still think there's nothing wrong with it, as like I said, killing a killer =/= murder. If enjoyment starts to set in though, then that is worrying.

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If you'll read the topic and especially what Bullet Magnet said, dispatching them takes a lot more time and money than locking them up. This makes your logic even more flawed. :P

But about the USA thing. It's your choice in the end where you want to live, but remember this: Things you saw through the eyes of a child look very, VERY much different through the eyes of an adult. This includes places and areas. And trust me on this 'cause I've had to deal with it very often throughout my life.

That's one of the things about childhood. You don't know very much. :P And I miss my childhood ignorance a hell of a lot sometimes. :( But now we're straying off-topic.

You know what? You win. You've proved my logic wrong (along with a few others). Congratulations.

And i have considered how I saw things as a child - now it would be nice to see them how they really are.

Just keep in mind all of the luxuries America has to offer: no free healthcare, corrupt politics, an impending national debt, and growing prices for pretty much everything due to America's dependency on oil.

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From Iraq.

The only good thing about America is your right to protect your land (That Peter Martin guy would most likely be a free man if that had happened in the USA).