So how exactly does it work? Why have I started on 0, when users who have left the forums have more points than me? Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, just curious. ;)
And since I have 0 points, none of my rep points I give to others count right?

You can't give rep until you get over 50 forum posts and 10 reputation points. Everyone starts on ten, as far as I can tell.

Mudling, your rep power is zero, but your actual rep is 6. Hold you mouse over the green block in your postbit or right click on it and view its properties to see this figure. You started off with ten just like everyone else, but som negative rep took you down four points. Shouldn’t have dropped that firework in the crowd.

so how come it says zero and not 6? is it a fault or is this rep thing more complicated?

Rep power is rep you can give.

Reputation (The number when you hover your mouse over yon green box) is rep EARNED.

These two as far as I can gather work parallel to each other so if someone with 6 rep power gives you rep you get six rep. It's actually quite simple once you get your head round the initial strangeness. New ideas ftw. (Note I am not saying this JUST because I somehow have 17 rep today.....well maybe.)

Thanks, veeery helpful. And yes, i envy your extra 7 'cuz you're still a bolamite.

For Christmas I got cynicism. That may have helped.

I used a dictionary and still don't know what this means.:D

A general feeling of mistrust about people or events and I wouldn't chit chat any more in this particular thread otherwise Alcar may hang us up by our balls for spamming.

Teaching through example that was cynicism. For your homework I want you to go home and think about what dicks the government are.

Perhaps it would be better if the postbit displayed the current rep level rather rep power.

Oh I understand, thanks Max. :)
I'll spare the name of the one who was responcible for it, but it seriously was an accident, not fair :K
And besides, it wasn't even a big one :K

Hey, I have what I feel to be a very important question about how we give and take reputation. I’ve been looking at some of the comments made on people’s posts (take exception to this invasion of your privacy if you like, but I explained when it was first activated that the reputation system worried me, and I wanted to see roughly how it was bein used) and I’ve noticed that plenty of rep is given or taken on the grounds of ‘I agree’, ‘I disagree’, or ‘You shouldn’t do things like that in RL’.

But it was my impression reputation was meant to guage a user’s contribution to the Forums in various terms, so I’ve been reserving positive rep for well thought out analyses, explanations made for other users, and good ideas, and negative rep for careless, hurried posts, and borderline spam.

So are we using reputation to judge members by their behaviour on the Forums, or by how much we like them as people?

I should be the first, it's often the second. Have some rep.

I would have thought both, based on their posts and behavior. I don't really think "I agree" or "I disagree" should play a big part in giving rep.

Max, that's a realy good point, my rep was effected by both ways, quite interesting.
I've been trying to use my power to encourage good posts, but at the time I had no power so it didn't matter, sure I was going to be naughty with the points once.
And please do look at our rep points if you can Max, someone moderating them would be realy good if you had the time.

I suddenly see the floor to this reputation thing. I'm now an unkown quantity because Hobo thinks I'm silly. I mean, Hobo can think what he likes but that doesn't mean that suddenly no-one knows who I am. Can anyone here truthfully tell me that they have never seen me around the forum before?

Er, I have, for one.

Alcar...

Well I hardly see you either so that's down to me not being interested in important stuff and you not noticing underlings. The last time I saw a post by you was just then, when I caught up on this thread before posting, and back when I was a noob that never stopped asking questions.

I know you as little as you know me so going by that logic your rep is just as low to me as mine is to you (beside knowing you as the divine admin) so you don't count.

er count me as two...
just kidding
But you're not the only one that suffered from hobbo's wrath :K
But if you care about this system, just keep being a good citisen and you'll be rewarded soon enough. :)

My point is that I'm being portrayed as someone who nobody knows because someone thinks I did something wrong... If I was top spam all over the place then the rep thing would show me as someone barely noticed when quite clearly a spammer is soo irritating you don't forget them...
Does anyone see my point?

Believe it or not, I am online a great deal - I just rarely post. And, as for you 'underlings', I do see you.

Alcar...

If you spammed all over the place then surely your rep wouldn't matter as you'd receive an infraction?

Rep only matters if you actually care what others think of you which judging by the mudslinging and cow buggering malarkey is actually quite a small number so therefore if you deliberately try to be noticed then you will be received in a less than glowering light.

It's just a figure dude, try not to let it get to you.

Leading on from that thought; the verbal description is just as meaningful as your post count title. That it says you're an unknown quantity does not mean that you personally are unknown; just that your reputation is currently neither good nor bad.

Ok tell this moron what the the difference between rep and rep power is.

Rep is your current reputation points and rep power is how much difference you'll make when adding/taking someone elses rep
(who was the moron?)

..........

You because you didn't get that he was referring to himself as moron.

I'm confused, a certain mod punish me, for the second time, for my opinions, which were racist, whilst I claimed it wasn't before hand, and afterwards exclaimed why he wasn't.
Fair enough some may say, but isn't that against what the internet's all about, speaking out, I was sure there were no sydney lebs on the forums, and I think I said no offence aswell, and if not, I meant to, I mean, why are we now being punnished for our opinions, when we're not directly flaiming a user?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think generally certain users are over doing it with the negative points, I mean, they're not a less severe way of infracting someone, and it's not warning anyway, hell, if I kept up what I had done to get negative points, I wouldn't have got infracted if I kept it at the same level I reckon.
Owell, guess If I realy want to get it back up, I'll have to just make better posts, and at least it seems everyone is getting noticed at this time, which was one of the things that could make or brake this system.

I think you're thinking about this in the wrong way, just imagine a offline situation for a second.

A guy runs up the street screaming and wearing a placard saying 'Kill the (insert ethnic minority here)'. Surely you have less respect for a man who does that than a man who just walks up the street normally, maybe helping an old lady across the road and with less respect surely in your eyes his reputations decreased.

My point is that a reputation decrease isn't a punishment, simply a rationally expressed opinion against you because people believe your opinion for whatever reason lowers your credibility for objectivity, politeness, non-generalization etc etc.

The moral of this story: Don't express controversial/flawed opinions and expect people to love you for it.

(I really do post on this thread too much)

Dear all:

Stop complaining about members giving you negative reputation (Namely me.) It doesn't even fucking do anything.

Any more complaints by anyone about anyone in this thread are hereby spam.

Then why do you bother?
Oh and to wings of fire, I didn't run up and down the street, I just said I didn't like them, and if I said that to my freinds, hell even to my enemies in real life, my reputation would probably go up, and who says I don't metaphorically help old ladies.
Bah, I don't care any more

Because I hate you.



Honest.

Since when are mods allowed to be biased? As Max said, you're using it becuase of who you like and who you don't like, not if someone does a good or bad post, you're doing exactly what is being discouraged.
Oh why do I bother, if you hate me so much, I challenge you to a duel!

Except he didn't use mod powers on you when giving you negative feedback, you stupid motherfucker. He was stating, from one user to another, that he dislikes you. As do I. Now quit whining, you obnoxious little twit.

You're just pissed becuase I cought you out flaming another member, which isn't very hard to do, oh what, you're doing it again, and don't say that it's an opinion, becuase I got punished saying an opinion before.
And he can't anyway, becuase he has absolutly no reason to, and being a mod, he's in a position of having more rep points, and having supposed pressure to dish them out.

Seriously, you really shouldn't care about rep points as much as you do.
As far as I see it, Hobo gave you negative rep, because you made a racist remark, which for some can be very insulting. To me it seems like a perfectly normal reason to give rep. Besides, no rules state when you can or cannot give rep.

If it's such a big issue, you can take it up with Alcar and suggest something, but all this whining and bitching is only gonna dig you in a deeper hole, I believe.

If you ever feel bad about your rep just take a gander at mine and everything will be happy again...

No it's not that I feel bad about it, I don't care since I have the same power, if you want to see my point, look at the "goodbye" thread, it's hard for me to explain, but I see the system in general being misused, and it's not Alcar's fualt so there's no reason to complain to him, he was merely trying to bring something fresh to the forums, and every new things require adjusting to.
It's actually that Hobo seems to be targetting certain people, or people that actually try and obbey the rules that frustrates me, he may be saying that he is dishing out justice, but leaving people who are known or infamous for their flaming, etc. in the forums unscaved is more injustice.
As as always in the forums, certain people are being picked on, and certain people aren't.
Anf or your record, I actually check when someone makes a bad post and see if they have been told off or at least had rep points taken off for them.
Call me keen, but I only care so much, becuase I'm trying to get to the heart of the problem, and this weak thread appears to be leading me their. Aswell as many others.
I see reason in Hobo's disicion to bad rep me, if little, but it's rep behaviour pattern, and generl, how everyone's repping that buggering me.
Maybe we should be given power.
And Carnix, your mistreatment is one of the many reasons why I'm so pissed, you were effected by Hobo too no? Becuase you stated you were earlier.

Hobo thinks it was a "silly" post.
I can see what he means and don't much care that he's taken rep for it but here's something I'm pondering: How the hell are you supposed to get good rep?! It seems that if it is a good post by a small person it's overlooked but bad posts are easily picked up.

Hey, here's a suggestion: maybe when taking rep less rep should be deducted then when giving rep...

I recently lost some rep, taking below 10, causing my rep power to go to 0. Were my reputation to go back to 10 or above, would my rep power return to what it was originally (3) or start at 1?

EDIT: We now know.

It's hard for me to be pissed about it because I don't even know what you're talking about.