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dean 01-08-2008 08:17 AM

I think that fart is abes exodus one but Ill change it to the oddysee one since I have all the sound affects and that background is NOT gonig to be used, just didnt want background to be left like that.

But is the walking ok?

EDIT: MAJOR UPDATE: Sprites been changed to use Arxryl verion as it is easier than using the orignal.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4...sodyseeux5.png

metroixer 01-08-2008 04:21 PM

I might have an idea to help you in backgrounds, in AO there is this "Glitch" where Abe can hop off the screen but you can stay ON the screen by itself. Now obviously if something else is on the screen I don't have much control over that unless I can kill it or something. Also, I don't know how to take screenshots of the computer without a digital camera :/.

SligStorm 01-09-2008 02:24 AM

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I think that fart is abes exodus one but Ill change it to the oddysee one since I have all the sound affects and that background is NOT gonig to be used, just didnt want background to be left like that.

But is the walking ok?

EDIT: MAJOR UPDATE: Sprites been changed to use Arxryl verion as it is easier than using the orignal.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4...sodyseeux5.png

Aha, A new fan game maker.. using Game Maker I see? I have alot of work to do normally but I think I could spare some time to help you with this. Heres the Link to my Oddworld Engine I made last year. I forgot about it and mabe you could make it better. It dosen't have sounds but things such as walking rolling jumping sneaking climbing and falling all work correctly. Heres the Sorce download: http://www.box.net/shared/static/k0tyjol4ws.zip

PS: I know im a few days late but I dont check this forum as much as I use to.

Fil The Slig 01-09-2008 02:53 AM

Here some Images to the Ending :fuzcool: .
Bad Endings:
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...nuckelhead.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...ng%20bonus.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...e%20Fails!.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...20workers!.jpg
Good Ending:
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...aves%20Abe.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...ng%20bonus.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...20it%20abe.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/Dieter.Hanne...,%20Abe!!!.jpg
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Oddey 01-09-2008 04:31 AM

OK Fil The Slig. There is no way Dean would be able to use those screens. No offense but they are all a complete waste of time. What Dean might want is backgrounds that Abe can get to without having to use ddcheat. But with the change of sprites he may want to use a different ype of backround.

OddjobAbe 01-09-2008 06:32 AM

Sorry I didn't get them earlier, Dean. I've been up to my neck in work down at the doctor's office. If there's anything else you'd like help with, just ask, as long as I am able.

abe is now! 01-09-2008 06:59 AM

Dean, did my screenshots help you? Please, tell me if you need something else.

dean 01-09-2008 07:29 AM

I realised by using the orginal sprite of Abe is to hard to do all the backgrounds so I am using the ones made by who I said in a previous post ^ and shall make c ustom backgrounds and such, atm i started last night and in 5 mins I had walking done and some talking and different sounds.

Sligstorm: Yes, if you would like to help me you may but I am pretty expierianced in making games not being big headed but I do love help from other creators so yes it would be fantastic!

abe is now! 01-09-2008 07:44 AM

I leave the team. You don't need my help. There are persons who are better than me doing this work. Bye bye!

dean 01-09-2008 07:59 AM

Ok...
lol if you want?

abe is now! 01-09-2008 08:04 AM

I can't help you because everything I posted wasn't good for you. I hope you will make a good game. Anyway this thing doesn't make me laugh.

dean 01-09-2008 08:11 AM

I never said what you brung wouldnt help me, thought twas very helpfull

Fil The Slig 01-09-2008 09:01 AM

http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/ima..._screen003.jpg
http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/ima..._screen004.jpg
http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/ima..._screen005.jpg
http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/ima..._screen006.jpg
http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/ima..._screen002.jpg
Can you Use these???

abe is now! 01-09-2008 09:32 AM

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I never said what you brung wouldnt help me, thought twas very helpfull

What must I do now, to help you? I join again in the team. But you must tell me something, knowing that I can't do "enormous" things. I can give you all the screenshots you want and you imagine, all the movie, all the images of conception. All of all. Everything. But, please, tell me exactly what you want. And not confused things. In this way, I CAN help you perfectly.

metroixer 01-09-2008 11:48 AM

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Can you Use these???

Stop being an idiot and read Dean's posts.

dean 01-09-2008 12:26 PM

Nothing as of yet, ill tell you when.

Thanks Abe Is Now

ElumFan 01-09-2008 01:12 PM

Not too bad, Dean! But one word of advice,make the animation less choppy. Try and reduce the amount of frames you use so it'll be more smooth. So far, it's pretty cool other than that. The music is good too (I'm guessing it came from Oddysee).


I might be able to give you puzzle design ideas if this is to be in the same vein as Oddysee and Exoddus.

dean 01-09-2008 01:54 PM

Hey guys, new demo of new version!

Its not orignal sprites but fan made ones by Arxryl

How to play:
Movement:
Left - Left arrow key
Right - Right arrow key
Up - Up arrow key (cannot jump but press it anyway, tis cool)


Speak:
Hello - "H"
Growl - "G"
Fart - "F"
Chant - "C"
Laugh - "L"
I dont know - UP ARROW KEY


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Screenie:
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6...sodyseekt1.png


Download:
This time, instead of a zip i just uploaded the .exe
http://upload2.net/page/download/BcX...dysee.exe.html

(REMEMBER TO SCROLL DOWN AND CLICK OFF POPUPS)

Download it, I think you'll enjoy it you abe lovers :)

Please note: this game was made by Dean Lemon and the sprites were made by Arxryl and I take no creditbility for his work all though I may edit some bits of it.

ALSO

This game is now going to be under fast development with it being easier to do then the orignal sprites as I can make backgrounds and much more!

Thanks! Tell your friends to download and get involved!


Just incase some are wondering this is not the actual game ovbiously is the testing of the game in its early stages :)

It will ovbiously go on and a proper full demo shall be out by 20th January I think with some basic gameplay and more.

Gretin 01-09-2008 03:33 PM

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Also, hey thanks for advice and everything on it but I shall try it like using orginal sprites see how far I can get and I WOULD tell you what program but it is a secret ;)

Haha, sure, a big secret that's totally ruined by the game maker logo there :rolleyes: And that means that IF you wanted help I WOULD be able to give it, as I'm pretty good with GM though I say it myself.

And I see you found out I was right about the sprites too :p Trust me, I've done enough of this sort of thing to know what I'm on about, even if I do have a tendency to ramble on and on about it.

Anyway, I just tried out your new demo and looks like you're off to a good start :D Just a few things... With the sounds, maybe try to get them more evenly matched with volume; at the moment laughing, farting, and saying "I dunno" are loud, but growling and saying hello are too quiet. Also the chanting needs work so it loops properly.

And I'm guessing you know this and you just haven't changed it yet, but when you walk the mudokon left he faces right again as soon as you stop moving. Which reminds me... In Game Maker, if you've got left and right sprites that are just mirror images of each other you can save yourself a little work by just having a set of sprites facing one way and then changing the variable "image_xscale" to -1, which effectively just mirrors the sprite horizontally, for them to face the other way.

Just one more thing, which is probably more a matter of personal preference than anything actually NEEDED; I personally think it would look better if the sprites for when he says something or shrugs etc were held for longer. E.G. Currently, the moment you let go of the button he returns to the normal standing pose. Maybe set it so that the sprite change is timed rather than just depending on the press and release of the key? I'm probably not making sense here though...

Anyway, as I said, it looks like you're off to a good start, this looks like it's got plenty of potential so all the best of luck in doing it.

SligStorm 01-09-2008 09:10 PM

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Yes, if you would like to help me you may but I am pretty expierianced in making games not being big headed but I do love help from other creators so yes it would be fantastic!

Did you even download my Oddworld Engine to look at it? Its better than you think.

abe is now! 01-10-2008 05:20 AM

What must I do now, Dean?

Fil The Slig 01-10-2008 05:35 AM

http://theupwardspiral.files.wordpre...9/oddworld.jpg
http://bap.boo.pl/newgc/screens/oddworld.jpg
http://www.emunova.net/img/tests/773.jpg
I hope they help you Dean!

abe is now! 01-10-2008 06:02 AM

Do you need a sprite? Here's one. It is not so good. But it can help you. I hope it.

Fil The Slig 01-10-2008 06:26 AM

http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/...2m_91ace13.jpg
http://www.taschenraketen.de/wp-cont...06/11/ow_1.jpg
[IMG]ttp://www.justadventure.com/reviews/Oddworld/ABE2.JPG[/IMG]
http://gameplayer.se/images/14/91/ub...045fcda22b.jpg
http://games.sina.com.cn/newgames/99...orld091304.jpg
http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/1/...9b490_full.jpg
Places,And one image for gamespeak.

dean 01-10-2008 07:24 AM

Hey thanks guys for all pictures and such, good help

Also
I did check out the engine, I like it but starting this from scratch.

Also, guy who gave me some advice, thanks but when you change imagescale which i did it helps BUT you miss a big bunch of it out and if you habve it 0.5 is make it skinner and screws it up and such but yeh I know what you mean about sounds and things growling and hello are from exodus so its quiter, ill change it dont worry :)

Thanks

abe is now! 01-10-2008 11:12 AM

What do you need now? I can send you some screenshots (a ton) but you must say me what kind of screenshots.

Gretin 01-10-2008 12:05 PM

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Also, guy who gave me some advice, thanks but when you change imagescale which i did it helps BUT you miss a big bunch of it out and if you habve it 0.5 is make it skinner and screws it up and such but yeh I know what you mean about sounds and things growling and hello are from exodus so its quiter, ill change it dont worry :)

No, I didn't mean change the imagescale to stretch or shrink the image. I meant like this:

Ok, by default image_xscale is going to be 1 right? Which means that the image is just going to be at it's normal width. If you set image_xscale to 2 it would stretch the image horizontally to twice it's normal width, right? And image_xscale at 0.5 would shrink it to half it's normal width. But what I said to do was set it to negative one (-1), because that simply mirrors it without stretching the proportions. So basically you can set it up so that you have all your sprites facing right, then have it set up so that when the player is facing right image_xscale = 1 and when the player is facing left image_xscale = -1. Do you get what I'm saying? :p It's really just a little trick to save on having to have a complete set of sprites for each direction.

dean 01-10-2008 12:34 PM

Yeh I know, didnt normaly do that but wnted to test it gonna test that tommoro when back on computer
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abe is now! 01-10-2008 12:55 PM

Thanks for answering me anyway.

dean 01-11-2008 07:33 AM

Abe Is Now, stop getting so moany, if I need some thing done ill ask you. but thank you anyways

Moosh da Outlaw 01-11-2008 05:13 PM

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I don't really know what you're doing, but it sounds fun. C:
Good luck!

Fil The Slig 01-12-2008 01:08 AM

http://www.emuinfo.xon.pl/screeny/4/45129%5B4%5D.jpg
http://images.gry-online.pl/Galeria/...1095976187.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8198/012cn3.jpg
Do you like it?

Oddey 01-12-2008 03:56 AM

Dean: Yes I do mean that Alf's Oddysee is a good idea. But if you don't like it then don't make it. I just want to say that I hope that you are making some progress. So from your veiw then how much of the game is currently finished?

dean 01-12-2008 06:50 AM

Well
I do liek the idea myself so I am using it and at the moment there is no actual gameplay just sorting out alf and such like the movements and him speaking and such then the slig I shall sort out then a demo will proberly be produced will some basic gameplay!

Fil The Slig 01-12-2008 01:08 PM

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8827/abe011aj8.jpg
http://www.oddworldforums.net/images...um_Calling.gif

MA 01-12-2008 06:51 PM

i dont think thats helping, Fil The Slig.

research?

dean 01-13-2008 03:01 AM

Some of these pictures arnt really of any need guys but post them if you want BUT we're using the cartoon style one which was made so fi you could make backgrounds and such for them would be MUCH better?

Hobo 01-13-2008 03:27 AM

Fil the Slig what the hell are you doing?

dean 01-13-2008 03:32 AM

Also, grettin, I said I was using 2 different sprites for both ways because of when I do imagescale -1 and such it missed out a big chunk doesnt it?

Unless you have a way again.. lol
:)

Alf Shall Rise 01-16-2008 03:14 PM

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Dean: Yes I do mean that Alf's Oddysee is a good idea. But if you don't like it then don't make it. I just want to say that I hope that you are making some progress. So from your veiw then how much of the game is currently finished?

Strange, I once pondered about an Alf's Oddysee game. Anyway, go ahead and make this game, just don't give up like I did a while ago.