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MA 12-08-2007 07:07 AM

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Ah you're not evil, just sarcastic with an ego. That's my best friend you're being a moron to. Seriously, why must everyone go be sarcastic and take a dump on this thread? Its like being evil makes you cool. I'd rather be nice.



Guess not, though no one could of seen that coming...And I let my cats outside. Well yeah, I've heard of tyrants chainsawing people.

hear hear!

listen to this person, its one of the few people that make sense.

Zerox 12-08-2007 09:11 AM

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Also much worse things happen to humans daily

I sincerely doubt that...sometimes, but not majorly often. Most murders tend to be quick and simple, as obviously it's more difficult to spend ages doing it for the sake of torture.

Animals are alot easier to take advantage of, and most pets tend to be smaller than humans and trusting.

GHost and OANST, this really isn't the sort of thread you should post retarded comments like that in. usually they're kinda funny, I admit, but here, just no. Particularly since it's animals (in movies, I never care about people dying: I'm more worried abut animals. Like the cat in ALIEN. Couldn't give a shit about anyone else).

Don't understand why anyone would think this is amusing in any way. At least if you're going to nick the fur off someone's dog, kill it first, for fucksake.

There's not much I can say that hasn't been already. But certainly, laws on the whole should be more strict, and those that involve animals should be upped to human level, too. It's like humans think they have more right or something...considering what we've already done to the planet, we should have far less right to live.

On this subject, I saw Have I got news for you last night. They ended up talking about having a monkey government and replacing the current one (based on the new research that chimps have very good memory, better than most humans). Quite frankly...excellent idea. One the show, 75% of people voted that they should do it for 2 weeks as a test. If only...

OANST 12-08-2007 10:02 AM

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I do know a joke/sarcasm when I see one, dumbass. I just think it isnt appropriate for this thread, as the dog did suffer terribly.


Which thread would it be appropriate in? The one where I raped and skinned your mother?

MA 12-08-2007 12:13 PM

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Which thread would it be appropriate in? The one where I raped and skinned your mother?

you are a fuckin' twat, OANST!
you think thats funny shit-for-brains?!? A close relative of mine was nearly fuckin' raped by some scum bag piss-ant. and i want you to know, i knew where he lived and gave him a beating for what he'd tried to do, seeing as the police apparently didnt have enough proof. he was only fuckin' 18.

be careful what you say, and piss off this thread.

Paul 12-08-2007 12:43 PM

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I sincerely doubt that...sometimes, but not majorly often. Most murders tend to be quick and simple, as obviously it's more difficult to spend ages doing it for the sake of torture.

Animals are alot easier to take advantage of, and most pets tend to be smaller than humans and trusting.

GHost and OANST, this really isn't the sort of thread you should post retarded comments like that in. usually they're kinda funny, I admit, but here, just no. Particularly since it's animals (in movies, I never care about people dying: I'm more worried abut animals. Like the cat in ALIEN. Couldn't give a shit about anyone else).

Don't understand why anyone would think this is amusing in any way. At least if you're going to nick the fur off someone's dog, kill it first, for fucksake.

There's not much I can say that hasn't been already. But certainly, laws on the whole should be more strict, and those that involve animals should be upped to human level, too. It's like humans think they have more right or something...considering what we've already done to the planet, we should have far less right to live.

On this subject, I saw Have I got news for you last night. They ended up talking about having a monkey government and replacing the current one (based on the new research that chimps have very good memory, better than most humans). Quite frankly...excellent idea. One the show, 75% of people voted that they should do it for 2 weeks as a test. If only...

Im talking about all the current wars, what happends behind closed doors, genocide etc

Disgruntled Intern 12-08-2007 12:57 PM

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you are a fuckin' twat, OANST!
you think thats funny shit-for-brains?!? A close relative of mine was nearly fuckin' raped by some scum bag piss-ant. and i want you to know, i knew where he lived and gave him a beating for what he'd tried to do, seeing as the police apparently didnt have enough proof. he was only fuckin' 18.

be careful what you say, and piss off this thread.

Saying someone was 'nearly raped' is like saying you 'almost broke your arm'. Either you're raped or you aren't. Clearly he didn't do much if the boys in blue couldn't nail him.

Animals have been abused and exploited throughout history. Unfortunately, it's a fact of life. Terrible? Sure. But dwelling on a couple of dogs being beaten/killed won't change much in the grand scheme of things.

If you're so worried about animals, look into factory farming and laboratory testing. Those are both things you can make an impact on. Stop being a soppy little cunt, junior.


On a more personal note, practice your own advice and tread lightly. People like OANST have been around, and stuck around, for quite some time. We were here when these forums were thriving, nay, booming. You strolled in last month and seem to be under the impression that you own the place.

Figure out your spot on the totem pole, get some respect, and shut the fuck up.

Hobo 12-08-2007 01:04 PM

I was about to quote mollocks assistant but I can't say anything DI didn't just say.

Anyway, sadly I must remind people the topic is animal cruelty, not rape or OANST having fecal matter in his skull.

Zozo the Zrilufet 12-08-2007 01:44 PM

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Saying someone was 'nearly raped' is like saying you 'almost broke your arm'. Either you're raped or you aren't. Clearly he didn't do much if the boys in blue couldn't nail him.

Animals have been abused and exploited throughout history. Unfortunately, it's a fact of life. Terrible? Sure. But dwelling on a couple of dogs being beaten/killed won't change much in the grand scheme of things.

If you're so worried about animals, look into factory farming and laboratory testing. Those are both things you can make an impact on. Stop being a soppy little cunt, junior.


On a more personal note, practice your own advice and tread lightly. People like OANST have been around, and stuck around, for quite some time. We were here when these forums were thriving, nay, booming. You strolled in last month and seem to be under the impression that you own the place.

Figure out your spot on the totem pole, get some respect, and shut the fuck up.

Rape is pretty much one of the worst things you can do, its just hard to prove and report. He isn't under the impression that he owns the place, he just isn't used to the pointless mudslinging. @mullocks assistant - snapping here is bad, and you just get laughed at by the egoists. You have a point though, though beating up someone is a crime.

On topic...I have a dog from a shelter, I'd hate for anything like this to happen to him.

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Which thread would it be appropriate in? The one where I raped and skinned your mother?

Fails, since her mother doesn't even come into this.

OANST 12-08-2007 02:40 PM

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you are a fuckin' twat, OANST!
you think thats funny shit-for-brains?!? A close relative of mine was nearly fuckin' raped by some scum bag piss-ant. and i want you to know, i knew where he lived and gave him a beating for what he'd tried to do, seeing as the police apparently didnt have enough proof. he was only fuckin' 18.

be careful what you say, and piss off this thread.



That's what she said.

Mac Sirloin 12-08-2007 02:52 PM

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you are a fuckin' twat, OANST!
you think thats funny shit-for-brains?!? A close relative of mine was nearly fuckin' raped by some scum bag piss-ant. and i want you to know, i knew where he lived and gave him a beating for what he'd tried to do, seeing as the police apparently didnt have enough proof. he was only fuckin' 18.

be careful what you say, and piss off this thread.

IS DAT SUM INTERNET TOUGH GUY?

Disgruntled Intern 12-08-2007 03:39 PM

Easy there, egoist.

Zozo the Zrilufet:

I know the barrage of wit and cruelty can be a hard thing to cope with, but that certainly doesn't justify the verbal hissy fit that mullocks assistant threw.

I guess my issue with this story is that it's one small problem in a mountain made up of millions. It was kind of a waste of a topic, anyway. I mean, everyone is supposed to be terribly upset and mortified, but when someone isn't, they catch an ass-full of misguided anger from people like mullocks assistant. It's annoying.

Leto 12-08-2007 05:02 PM

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I didn't eat fast food for over two years after I read fast food nation.
this is one of the things that turned my dad into a vegetarian. I'm borderline vegetarian already, so I'd prefer not to read this book just so I can enjoy my fattyass shitfood for a bit longer before I get an eyeball in a bap or something.

alf's brother's mate 12-09-2007 03:25 AM

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I do know a joke/sarcasm when I see one, dumbass. I just think it isnt appropriate for this thread, as the dog did suffer terribly. Oh, yeah, I would hate to think what McDonlads does with their meat...After seeing this Movie (Damn, can't remember what the heck its called 'fast food nation' or something...) It has REALLY put me off eating at that place...:confused: As you have no idea how the food was processed, and if they did just stab a cow with a blade and let it die from blood loss, and get all nasty. Yuck


I completley agree skillyaslig. OANST, why is molluck's assistant a sick fuck? He proved his point very well and i completley agree with him.
OANST you deserve an infraction.
Nothing more or fucking less.
A close friend of mine was raped, and he got fucking HI fucking V from it. You wanna pay his funds you sick fucking bastard?.

Hobo 12-09-2007 03:34 AM

OANST will not be getting an infraction for one comment that you are all ganging up on him about that was not even being offensive to rape victims. End of the fucking matter. Next offtopic post gets infracted

Zozo the Zrilufet 12-09-2007 03:38 AM

(Avoids quoting and off-topicness) ....Well - (Does it anyway)

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Respect is a key issue here. We expect that every member will be considerate of other members’ feelings and opinions. Everyone has the right to express his or her opinion, as long as it isn't posted with malicious intent. Such things as offensive language, flaming, using vulgarities or posting sexually explicit material is deemed as a spiteful attack against the receiving member(s). You can discuss or challenge members' opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully.

Hmmm....At least the dog is in heaven or some other good place now...Eh. She has a lot of pictures of her on DA too.

~^_^~ 12-09-2007 04:49 AM

That just sickens me. The sick twat who did this has no heart.

MA 12-09-2007 05:21 AM

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I completley agree skillyaslig. OANST, why is molluck's assistant a sick fuck? He proved his point very well and i completley agree with him.
OANST you deserve an infraction.
Nothing more or fucking less.
A close friend of mine was raped, and he got fucking HI fucking V from it. You wanna pay his funds you sick fucking bastard?.

it seems im not the only one with the guts to say whats right and whats wrong.

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Saying someone was 'nearly raped' is like saying you 'almost broke your arm'. Either you're raped or you aren't. Clearly he didn't do much if the boys in blue couldn't nail him.

Animals have been abused and exploited throughout history. Unfortunately, it's a fact of life. Terrible? Sure. But dwelling on a couple of dogs being beaten/killed won't change much in the grand scheme of things.

If you're so worried about animals, look into factory farming and laboratory testing. Those are both things you can make an impact on. Stop being a soppy little cunt, junior.


On a more personal note, practice your own advice and tread lightly. People like OANST have been around, and stuck around, for quite some time. We were here when these forums were thriving, nay, booming. You strolled in last month and seem to be under the impression that you own the place.

Figure out your spot on the totem pole, get some respect, and shut the fuck up.

@ DI and any other ignorant bastard: ever heard of 'attempted' dick-weed? obviously you havnt the faintest idea what your babbling on about. do you think id make something sick like that up? these forums arent anything and everything, its just a website. so i personally couldnt give a shit less if you were 'here from the start', you make it sound like you deserve an NBE for sittin' on your arse, staring at a screen. get out and do something with your life, instead of pretending these threads are something outta' The Godfather'.

and by the way, you wouldnt be able to do one day of what i have to do for the rest of my life, so think yourself lucky, junior. i really am not joking when i say, if you had said that to me in person, you would be currently ordering your first set of false teeth. call me a brainless, violent thug if you want, truth is, ive done it before, and i would of certainly done it again at that remark, regardless of police records.

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OANST will not be getting an infraction for one comment that you are all ganging up on him about that was not even being offensive to rape victims. End of the fucking matter. Next offtopic post gets infracted

so it was ok for DI, OANST, Kastere and yourself, to gang up on me and take the piss when i objected to OANST's diabolical remark due to my family history?
i would really like to know how saying the phrase, and i quote;
'The one where i raped and skinned your mother?'
is not offensive to rape victims?
sort out your fucking morels, Hobo.

i give up with these forums, im off.
everytime i see pointless shit-flinging, i see it as bullying and cant help myself but to try and stop it.
its easy for someone half way across the world to start typing crude messages to other people and say it was a joke, chances are if they had to say it to their face, it would be taken the 'wrong' way, therfore esculating into something far more serious.

anywho, im fuckin' off. feel free to piss-take and slag me off to try and make yourselves feel better. mods, ban me if you wish (may aswell 'cus i 'aint coming back, you know your itchin' to Hobo), best thing is, i wont be around to see it! so anyone replying to this post to try and get back at me is talking to thin air, i've got no time to piss about here.

toodlepip!

Zerox 12-09-2007 06:39 AM

Though Molluck's Assistant didn't exactly do the best thing by getting aggressive towards OANST, OANST is hardly an angel here either. Normally amusing, but this a rather touchy subject, it's not really the place for this sort of thing at all. Though Hobo says we are all 'ganging up' on OANST, maybe there's an obvious reason for that? Maybe it wasn't offensive to rape victims, but it was hardly the sort of comment we want in a thread like this. I don't think I can say anyone in this argument is 'right' at all.

Responding back on topic to Paul here, all that sort of things is humans own fault. They're the ones who decide it's a good idea to make weapons and go to war on each other. That's what separates us from animals: Needless violence and large scale battles. Not exactly a good defining feature. There are very rarely innocent victims in humans cases like this, though in cases behind closed doors etc. the victim should come out to the police and be less withdrawn, and the offender is a sick twisted fuck in these cases. While when animals are involved, the animal is always an innocent, unless it was a crocodile attacking someone or something, but it usually isn't. The person involved should have been more careful anyway, usually their own stupid fault.

Bullet Magnet 12-09-2007 08:37 AM

Why is everyone getting upset by this sort of thing now? It happens every day all of the time. Why are you only angry when one particular example is brought to your attention by a sensationalist media? Poor show, I say.

OANST 12-09-2007 09:28 AM

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i give up with these forums, im off.
everytime i see pointless shit-flinging, i see it as bullying and cant help myself but to try and stop it.
its easy for someone half way across the world to start typing crude messages to other people and say it was a joke, chances are if they had to say it to their face, it would be taken the 'wrong' way, therfore esculating into something far more serious.

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I win again. At least Patrick put up a bit of a fight. Jeez.

Okay, it was a bit of an insensitive joke. Fine. You got me. But to get all offended by the word rape is just silly. There are horrible things that happen everyday in this world. Rape, murder, emo music, etc. Somebody, somewhere, and at some time has been put through the most disturbing things imaginable and it's safe to say that you will probably run into someone who knows a person like this. But is that a reason to censor a joke? I say no. Hell, the only way to stay sane in a world like this is to be able to laugh about the shit that happens. Also, how can you possible hold me responsible for the terrible acts of some disturbed individual? Do you think I really did rape and skin her mother? Do you think I was threatening to rape and skin her mother? No. You don't. At least, if you have any intelligence at all you don't. I knew a guy once who couldn't abide anyone saying the word death because his mother had died. All you had to do was say the word and he would throw a little hissy fit tantrum. I can't be held responsible for your mother dying or for your friend getting HIV. Sorry. If you were offended by the language and you didn't like the tone I was taking then I understand that. And maybe I'm even a little sorry. But don't be offended simply because you know a person who was raped because I will not walk on eggshells around you. Don't be stupid.

And molluck's assistant, I don't know if you've seen any of the pictures of me that are on here but I have a feeling that I could take you. I never actually threaten anyone with physical violence and I'm not being vain. You just made a claim that is fairly farfetched is all.

Hobo 12-09-2007 09:32 AM

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I win again. At least Patrick put up a bit of a fight. Jeez.

Okay, it was a bit of an insensitive joke. Fine. You got me. But to get all offended by the word rape is just silly. There are horrible things that happen everyday in this world. Rape, murder, emo music, etc. Somebody, somewhere, and at some time has been put through the most disturbing things imaginable and it's safe to say that you will probably run into someone who knows a person like this. But is that a reason to censor a joke? I say no. Hell, the only way to stay sane in a world like this is to be able to laugh about the shit that happens. Also, how can you possible hold me responsible for the terrible acts of some disturbed individual? Do you think I really did rape and skin her mother? Do you think I was threatening to rape and skin her mother? No. You don't. At least, if you have any intelligence at all you don't. I knew a guy once who couldn't abide anyone saying the word death because his mother had died. All you had to do was say the word and he would throw a little hissy fit tantrum. I can't be held responsible for your mother dying or for your friend getting HIV. Sorry. If you were offended by the language and you didn't like the tone I was taking then I understand that. And maybe I'm even a little sorry. But don't be offended simply because you know a person who was raped because I will not walk on eggshells around you. Don't be stupid.

And molluck's assistant, I don't know if you've seen any of the pictures of me that are on here but I have a feeling that I could take you. I never actually threaten anyone with physical violence and I'm not being vain. You just made a claim that is fairly farfetched is all.

This is OANST being the most mature person in this topic. Bravo.

moxco 12-09-2007 11:31 AM

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You liked fast food nation? Read the book. It's not a comedy.

I didn't eat fast food for over two years after I read fast food nation.

I always think If it taste good and it dosn't poison you you can eat it. Who cares if they wrestled a cow to death.

Disgruntled Intern 12-09-2007 12:08 PM

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I always think If it taste good and it dosn't poison you you can eat it. Who cares if they wrestled a cow to death.

When you factor in all of the chemicals and hormones, it sort of is poisoned.

I'm not disputing that fast food is tasty, though.

Zerox 12-09-2007 12:38 PM

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Why is everyone getting upset by this sort of thing now? It happens every day all of the time. Why are you only angry when one particular example is brought to your attention by a sensationalist media? Poor show, I say.

Not as much as you think, BM, at the very least, not for all of us here. I see/saw it as one particularly sick incident to discuss, but this also then leads to a general discussion about this subject, at least from me and presumably others, obviously you for instance. You do bring a good point, however.

I have to agree with OANST's last post, though, Molluck's Assistant did kinda dig his own grave. He's not exactly done himself any favors at all by 'leaving' and he's gained nothing from this at all, he's merely lost a whole, excellent forum. His loss.

All I can say is that we can all probably learn a lesson from this.

OANST 12-09-2007 01:37 PM

Because I truly am a dick I'm going to post the pm mullocks assistant sent me describing how he knows he could whip me silly but just doesn't want to. Enjoy.



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i've left these forums because i simply do not have the time for it with my job, not because you forced me out. i dont reply anymore but i still read, as a guest, but i had to make an acception in this instance.

to cut a long story short, i dont lie, i hate liars, so my last post was not far fetched, it was true, pure and simple. i just dont like people thinking im bragging.

let me tell you, i once ended up scrapping in the cow shed at the old farm i worked at with another farm worker over the fact he nearly run me over while speeding round the place on the JCB telehandler, which would have obviously killed me, which sort of justifies my actions.

he was 32, and had been working there since he was 20, but i still ended up putting him down, though i must admit i took quite a hiding, and my hearing is now permanently damaged, he was a big bloke. both of us never told the boss, and said a young cow had charged us over. he was partly the reason i left there.

you see when i was younger, my parents took me to a docter for blood tests, because they thought i was taking small amounts of steroids, stupidly. the doctor told them it was just because i had a fast metabolism, eat well, and did too much work on the farm.

now that ive justified myself to you, not that i like to, do you see why i laughed out loud when i read your post? why do you think i posted it in the first place? compared to the people i've righteously 'had', you would be a bit of trouble, but not much more.

anyway, im a decent person, and i would guess that your a father (due to the picture of the girl). im a family guy myself, therefore i would not even think of fighting you, because it wouldnt be fair on the kid.

well done though, you provoked me into sending you a PM to justify myself, but like i said before, its easy to threaten people that aren't even on the same continent as you.

now please, leave me in peace!


Is nothing sacred? No. Not while I'm around. Not even mollucks assistant's cow.

Mac Sirloin 12-09-2007 02:17 PM

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so it was ok for DI, OANST, Kastere and yourself, to gang up on me and take the piss when i objected to OANST's diabolical remark due to my family history?

Yup.

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Mutual Friend 12-09-2007 02:38 PM

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Why is everyone getting upset by this sort of thing now? It happens every day all of the time. Why are you only angry when one particular example is brought to your attention by a sensationalist media? Poor show, I say.

We can hardly get upset about a load of stuff that we don't know about. Poor show, BM, but your heart was in the right place - fluff manipulative tabloid journalism. As long as you have your head screwed on, you can treat whatever story on its own merits and cut through the crap.

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Ah you're not evil, just sarcastic with an ego.

That's what they said about Hitler.

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Okay, it was a bit of an insensitive joke. Fine. You got me. But to get all offended by the word rape is just silly. There are horrible things that happen everyday in this world. Rape, murder, emo music, etc. Somebody, somewhere, and at some time has been put through the most disturbing things imaginable and it's safe to say that you will probably run into someone who knows a person like this. But is that a reason to censor a joke? I say no. Hell, the only way to stay sane in a world like this is to be able to laugh about the shit that happens. Also, how can you possible hold me responsible for the terrible acts of some disturbed individual? Do you think I really did rape and skin her mother? Do you think I was threatening to rape and skin her mother? No. You don't. At least, if you have any intelligence at all you don't. I knew a guy once who couldn't abide anyone saying the word death because his mother had died. All you had to do was say the word and he would throw a little hissy fit tantrum. I can't be held responsible for your mother dying or for your friend getting HIV. Sorry. If you were offended by the language and you didn't like the tone I was taking then I understand that. And maybe I'm even a little sorry. But don't be offended simply because you know a person who was raped because I will not walk on eggshells around you. Don't be stupid.

As Hobo has commented on this, I'll consider it fair game.

This is all fine and dandy and true and obvious, except for the fact that you then went on to make a further joke specifically tailored to somebody's situation. Now, Hobo must be very easily pleased, because that didn't strike me as particularly 'mature' at all, and something that a person could take perfectly justified umbrage to.

OANST 12-09-2007 02:55 PM

That's what she said.

Mutual Friend is confused again. He thinks that when I said that I was disputing his friends claim of rape. I wasn't. I was just being nonsensical and stupid. Thought I should clarify that.

God, he is so damned confused. I hate his stupid face.







Animals shouldn't be murdered.



MF is gonna kill me.

skillyaslig 12-09-2007 07:38 PM

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Okay, it was a bit of an insensitive joke. Fine. You got me.

At least you admitted to it. Yeah, I kinda over reacted, but I love dogs. The sad thing is, the person responsible probably wont get caught. Plah, taht what makes me hate some people (the dude who did this...) Thank goodness I dont live in a town or city, though having a dog in a large city with no real space is kinda mean (no flamming please, just my view). Humans are tortured, yes, but not like animals. Animals, as Zerox said, are trusting, especialy dogs, as they are used to humans, so they are easier to abduct, unlike people who are anturally suspecious folk :p

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Animals shouldn't be murdered.

*dies* :happy:

Salamander 12-09-2007 10:11 PM

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Humans are tortured, yes, but not like animals.

How so? I'm not trying to undermine you or your opinion, I'm simply curious as to why you think this.

Strike Witch 12-10-2007 02:59 AM

This thread is awesome.

On fast food, I only eat it around once or twice a month, because I know it's a whole load of crazy shit disguised as meat, but by god, it's delicious.

Seriously, It makes me feel slightly ashamed of my civilization, but then I realise I sound like a hippie and drop it.

alf's brother's mate 12-10-2007 08:04 AM

Thankyou OANST. At the end of the day I over reacted, and

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Should be the one to apologize. And unsurprizingly Hobo is right once again. Sorry for flipping OANST, i hope it wasnt taken to deep :D

Paul 12-10-2007 01:33 PM

so basicly animal cruelty is wrong, the end

Leto 12-10-2007 02:01 PM

Lol all the little forumites always look to the bigger ones.

Hobo's new avatar freaks me out.

Paul 12-10-2007 03:17 PM

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Lol all the little forumites always look to the bigger ones.

Hobo's new avatar freaks me out.

as does yours

skillyaslig 12-10-2007 07:26 PM

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Hobo's new avatar freaks me out.

Oh yeah, it is creepy :fuzsad: (even santa HO HO HO)

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How so? I'm not trying to undermine you or your opinion, I'm simply curious as to why you think this.

Well, animals arent as intelligent as Humans (sorry Lassie), so they wount be able to pick locks, undo chains, untie themselves...(though some can't, but hardly any...) So they are easier to keep captive, and cant run ot the police and tell them if they escape...

Disgruntled Intern 12-11-2007 11:03 AM

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Oh yeah, it is creepy :fuzsad: (even santa HO HO HO)


Well, animals arent as intelligent as Humans (sorry Lassie), so they wount be able to pick locks, undo chains, untie themselves...(though some can't, but hardly any...) So they are easier to keep captive, and cant run ot the police and tell them if they escape...

This is exactly what makes the mistreatment of humans worse, in my opinion. Unlike a dog, we are capable of mistrusting someone and their intentions. Unfortunately, do to sheer force, and underestimation, or drugs, sometimes that isn't enough. By comparison it seems like small potatoes when someone kills or injures an animal. To outwit, and hold a human against their will so that you can act out some sort of twisted fantasy or ill-conceived notion, is much, much worse.

A dog, for example, does not really have any idea that it is about to be hurt, tortured, or even murdered. After enough abuse, sure, it might be wary, but it will never feel the pure terror that a human must feel in a similar situation. Our brains are different, and, as a result, we feel and experience more than any other animal ever could.

You made the point of an animal being helpless in that it would be unable to free itself and run to the police. Does a human not fall into the same category when in the exact same situation? Animals have it bad, but people have it worse.

alf's brother's mate 12-12-2007 04:51 AM

I agree, it's all "OH MY FUCKING GOD! THAT ANIMAL WAS SMACKED BY A CRICKET BAT!" But there's none of that if it happens to a human. A human knows full well what is happening, and it has to live or die with that, where's an animal has fogged feelings, and doesn't really understand.

I think.

Bullet Magnet 12-12-2007 09:41 AM

It does happen with humans, haven't you ever seen the news?

It's usually only Caucasian humans though.

Nate 12-12-2007 04:16 PM

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It's usually only Caucasian humans though.

It's certainly more likely if we're talking about cricket bats specifically.