There ain't none! It's the people that are independent! Or at least they think so...
Besides, the country itself is dependant of the people living in it because they named the country their way and the style of that country is their way. Therefore: No people-no countries. Just unnamed land itself.

I'm sick of people saying that "we saved your asses in WWII"

Pah, may be true but that's the thing they take for advantage in arguments. Also, thinking that they are the ones who won the war. "Children, guess who kicked the German's asses in WWII? Us!! Weee!"

*finger*

Which I why I propose that Thanksgiving be renamed Don't Trust Whitey Day.

I'm safe, since stealing from Carlos Mencia is the same thing as stealing from a thief.

I happily kick anyone's ass who is claiming credit for something they wern't even around for. Especialy because you won't ever hear 'We saved your asses in WWII!' from one of the guys that was actualy over here!

For once I agree with Havoc.

The victory in the European theater was brought about by the three distinct "world powers," and without any single one of them (that means not just America), Europe may have been completely lost.

If anything, England owes more to Russia for keeping Germany fighting on two fronts than America for its influx of supplies and troops. No one ever gives Russia the credit they deserve for WWII.

Then again, Stalin was almost as bad as Hitler.

And some Russian soldiers regularly committed crimes against humanity.

...

Then again again, there was that whole Dresden thing... *cough*

"One man carries the rifle, the other man carries the ammunition..."-I just had to...

"In the Soviet army it takes more courage to retreat than to go forward"-or something like that. Don't know who said that, but I saw it in Call of Duty.

I was referring more to the forced labor camps than to their lack of proper supplies, but sure, we'll go with that too. :p

Don't look at us!

What? Troll Country bombed Dresden?

Anyway, this topic is old and outdated. Let's close it.

Who put you in charge? Oh thats right, noone...

I still say we should have build a wall around Berlin, throw all the Germans in there and redevide all surrounding area to the neigbouring countries. Effecient space use ftw!

Your political views are old and outdated.

Why is everyone bashing the Germans? Just because of a touched-in-the-head dictator and those dicks who followed him, and ruined Germany's reputation once and for all. The rest of the Germans haven't done anything.

Because it's fun.

The view that "America is evil" is 40 years old. Fail.

Ha! Burn!!

Ha! Freeze!!

Hitler wasn't a dictator. He got voted in. Which means half the country are idiots for voting him in.

I got news for you....most of the idiots that voted him in are now dead. And today's generation is somehow facing the consequesces for something other people did.

Initially, yes, the Nazi party was voted into the Reichstag. But Hitler removed all opposition and any laws that threatened to kick him out of office. It's not a democracy if the people can't vote you back out again in a couple of years.

Okay I'm about to go against myself:fuzemb:

I don't think hitler said to the country;

"Hey, vote for the Nazi party and I'll make another world war by blowing Britain to kingdom come. It'll be great! Bombs, blood, Thousands of people dying.

So if you want chaos vote the NAZI party!"

Why does that sound so fermiliar?

I knew some leftist would say that. But Bush isn't launching genocides againsts entire racial groups.

What exactly has Bush done to you Havoc? Why do you loath him for trying (though sometimes ineffecutaly) to defend your neck from Islam?

For one, what Bush is doing is pretty damn close to genocide, only difference is that he's just randomly killing people instead of being picky! And secondly, he's attacking, not defending.

There is no Islamic threat. Not in Europe, not in China, not in Africa, not in South America, not in Canada. Only in America and apparently thats good enough for the rest of the world to get all worked up about it.

Mod Note: A bunch of posts in response to this one have been moved here.

:)Yes, bonfire or guy fawkes night was to celebrate the fact an important building didn't get blown up. Its supposed to show you what it would look like if the building had blown up.