Oh I'm sorry... I really am! You know why? Because I don't care. I always sign my posts, deal with it.

Havoc

I'm not sure that I can. It's that horrible.

But why take it out on big cats? Surely applying your anger towards havoc's crotch would be more efficient since he wants to f*ck tigers. :p

Pop some pills, helps take the pain away.

Havoc

...Really? They're all over.


Siiiiggghhhsss.... I must say, I'm kinda split on the issue. On the one hand, I really don't care all the flamboyance and exhibitionism of the whole gay pride deal, or any organization for that matter. I think it's grotesque. Not because they're gay, mind you, but because I'm just not a fan of extravagance.

On the other hand, what they're trying to rebel against is the repression of their sexuality, which they must do by displaying it in the extreme. I mean, obviously they aren't blowing each other on floats or anything, but yeah. They're essentially giving a massive "Fuck You" to all the people that don't accept homosexuality. And I totally respect that. Power to you.

Also, hypocrisy is most apparent here, Havoc, you and your displays of animal fucketry.

*TO HOBO*
(http://www.oddworldforums.net/showth...ist#post270810)
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Originally Posted by Patrick Vykkers
The closest thing I have normally to "angry thoughts" is fantasising about being the Pope and telling the protestors against my speech to go back to madrassah/daycare, go and commit certains acts with themselves, and mock them with crybaby sounds.
Quote: Originally posted by Hobo
Interesting and racist.

Good work.
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I would of thought the fact a controversy came from the Pope over Islam, the mention of madrassah's, and the mention of whining would tip you off to me talking about Muslims. I don't recall any controversy from the Pope over quoting some guy talking about Italian plumbers or gay Arabs or French businessman.

Argh! How does mentioning my sexuality every so often, usually when others start on the subject mind you, compare to a whole community confirming a stereotype which shouldn't exist?

The topic is: Faggots giving homosexuality a bad view in public view.
Am I giving zoophilia a bad name? No I'm not. I'm merely going with jokes OTHER people make about me. Could this be seen as the same thing these gay guys are doing in a parade? Yes it could, but one person doing it on an internet forum where it's OBVIOUSLY meant as a joke is something VERY different from parading down the streets of New York with camera's pointed at you, telling the entire world that faggots dancing around in tight leather suits should be accepted as a public f*cking standard and that it should be called homosexuality.
I am not being a hypocrite at all over this, I of all people have the understanding and respect for people to do what the f*ck they want, even if it's dancing around in tight leather on a colorful parade boat. I can bring up the respect to tell someone: "You don't give a crap about how everyone thinks of you, more power to ya!"
The thing I absolutely hate and which the majority of you f*cknuggets can't comprehend is that what these faggots are doing on these gay pride marches is hurting the general view of homosexuality. There are people trying to live a normal life out there, but who are gay and the idiots on these pride parades are fighting to make sure this guy can never tell someone he's gay without being associated with them.
There's being homosexual, and there's being a faggot. If the faggots on the pride boats want to display who they are then go f*cking them, but call it a Faggot Pride Parade because it has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. If the normal homosexuals want rights they will ask for them in a normal manner but they can't because everywhere they go they are associated with being a faggot while they clearly arn't.
THAT's why I'm pissed, THAT's my point. Stay on topic and leave my f*cking sexual orientation out of it if it hasn't got jack sh*t to do with it!

On that note, I'm going to say this and then I want everyone to drop it and get back on topic:
I once came clean with my sexuality around here because I knew the majority of people wouldn't mind and even those who did would not have a major grudge against me for it. I turned out to be right because no-one on this board wants to kill me for it. Apart from that I never refer to my sexuality in a manner to gain attention, when I refer to it by my own initiative I do so to make a point in a debate, mostly religion or moral based like this one. If I don't do so from my own initiative then I'm responding to someone else who made a reference and I'm free to respond to something that is about me, especially if it's insulting. I know I'm a bastard, a cold hearted religion hater and most people both hate and love at the same time because while I might be a bastard, I'm a bloody good one who isn't afraid to give an opinion which might be politically incorrect and if there's anything I have learned it's that people respect me for that, despite them hating me or not.
I might be all of the above but I am, not in the very least, a hypocrite. And anyone calling me one should look the word up before throwing it around and pissing people off. I don't get angry quick, as most of you can no doubt confirm, but do NOT call me a hypocrite because that will seriously tick me off.

Havoc...:fuzemb:

Havoc, why are you censoring your posts?

:D Well you shouldn't bang on other's sexualities when you parade yours around so obviously.

That's all I must say.







-Tha toe (I'm sorry, OANST, I love you)

Thats Great! My brother is accutaly gay, and hes really cool...as Venks says, I sometimes forget he's even gay.

I have a gay friend, and you know what? Some times I even forget hes gay. :lol:
But seroiusly it doesnt matter if someones gay or not because you arn't going to have a relationship with them. So just consider them not gay.

You shouldn't consider them not gay. Just don't let their sexuality come between your friendship.

Well I do consider my bro gay because he is gay. And if he wants to be gay he can be. I respect his opinon! La la la...

I have a straight friend and you know what? Sometimes I even forget he's straight. :lol:

But seriously though; why would you even think about someone's sexuality while you're just hanging out with them?

Seriously. What does it have to do with your friendship with that particular person? It almost makes it seem as if you're making yourself out to be a martyr for hanging out with them. As if race, religion, or sexuality actually matter when it comes to friendship.

Good.

Super Munch, Havoc is hardly acting in the same way as the Gay Pride Parading people, is he? To do that he'd post "GAYGAYGAYGAYGAY" or something along with images of himself in tight leather pants.
I think thses gay parades have hurt havoc as well. He's being flamed at right now. OANST may be only be complaining about post signing because he has something against gays like havoc. And something against large cats in safari parks.

Only problem there being that... I'm not gay. Oops.

SM: I'm not banging on anyone sexuality. Like I said 4 times now, I'm having a problem with them pretending to be homosexual while what they are doing has nothing to do with it. Their giving homosexuality a bad name.

Havoc

Could you please state the logic behind this statment?

This is badly worded, if you know what i mean. :D

What`s all the fuss about ? Gay Pride parades are not that much different
than any other types of public displays, ie. Mardi Gras, The Rose Parade,
the Macy`s f*cking Thanksgiving Prarade, Carnival in Rio (WOO WOO).
Just a bunch folks dressed up in goofy outfits, calling attention to themselves.

So What ?

Could anyone else ?

I believe discriminating about the creed of Islam is still considered racism. As religionism or creedism isn't a word. Fucking noob. So therefore your point is invalid and i win. Q.E. Motherfunking D.

Oh, OANST. You win this thread.

Ugh. I kinda got the impression Havoc was homosexual from this topic, given various texts and references etc. etc. Whoops.
And I wasn't thinking entirely straight either.

Fact of the matter is, Catholics (on the whole) suck for disliking gays for no reason, you shouldn't dislike gays without a just reason, and perhaps these parades give homosexuality a bad name. That's pretty much all there is to it now.

Wow. These replies are a little surprising. Why are you all so stupid? Like, really stupid?

The main thrust of this 'argument' isn’t so much about whether gay pride is a logical thing (as many have pointed out, quite rightly, it isn't - though some put it in terms rather more needlessly aggressive than that), but that, like, the entire gay display is rather weird and perverse, right?

**** off, who cares, you ****ing idiot. The main point of this thread is that a Gay Pride Parade's fashion sense is all out of whack and making some great issue out of it, and how that relates to the position of gays in society. Jesus, what a retard. And so are all of you for going 'oooh, yeah, I'm with you Havoc!' only to say the bleedin' obvious, you ****ing nitwits.

Besides all this nonsense, you seem to have missed a very important and salient fact: gay pride schtick is 80% having a laugh and being outrageous, 20% making a point. Though I’m probably inflating the importance of the latter. And that’s it, some people having fun, ZOMG. No further analysis needed.

EDIT: Sorry for going off topic. Well, I think that Mutual Friend has a point, that to an extent we are simply pointing out common sense methods that most people should know. I think it is largely the presence of this sort of hyperdefense mentality in the gay community and others that are causing some of the continued problems.

Edited due to gracious withdrawl. :)

The world is good.

EDIT No. 2: Wait a tick, it wasn't gracious at all! I've just been accused of furthering the problems of gay men (don't care about the women) across the globe. Wow... just wow.

A) It's hardly hyper-defensive, to do that it need to be an actual issue for people... like, is being gay unnatural, or whatever. THAT was hyper-annoyance at grand idiocy.

B) How does hyper-definisveness largely cause the continued problems for gay people, Patrick? Or was that just a piece of soundbite nonsense, hmm?

Sorry about that. I moved it to PM now.

Meh. Back on topic.

I don't necessarily believe parading it around is the best idea, but the Irish side of me is telling me to shut up, as they're usually very drunken nights.

Alcar...

Lets just rename them Gay Nonchalance Parades, to allow people to get over a skip in logic.

I wasn't accusing you of hyperdefensiveness, I was accusing the people organising the parades of hyperdefensiveness. It's like putting a firebomb in the house of a guy saying Hinduism is intolerant, or commiting nonconsensual acts with the daughter of a guy sayings Democrats or Republicans are perverts.

Only... it really isn't like those things at all, is it? :)

For one thing, I fail to see how the extravagances of a Gay Patrol are hyper-defensiveness. It's more a case, the lesser part that's making a 'point', of putting It out there regardless of what people think. If it was just a bunch of gays in suits and bowler hats grimly marching up along some streets where the sucker punch? Or the fun, more importantly?