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toxicity 03-31-2007 02:18 PM

I'm kinda on the fence about the whole ghosts thing. I probably won't believe in them until I see some solid proof or until I actually see one.

Arxryl 03-31-2007 02:50 PM

Did you know that 100% of people that have actually seen ghosts believe in them?
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Seriously.
I do agree with you though Toxicity... When something really weird, creepy and almost un-explainable happens, I'll begin to rethink my thoughts. Till then however, I stick with Halloween costumes.

Bullet Magnet 04-01-2007 11:49 AM

Well that would be because, since they believe in ghosts, they put down what they see to ghostly activity. I've seen a helluva lot of weird and freaky stuff that I'm sure could easily be assumed to be ghosts. It wasn't, of course, and a few shut windows, fixed boilers and re-insulated pipes and walls eliminated the problem.

There is but one Grim Reaper in the 'verse, and he rides a white horse called Binky.

OANST 04-01-2007 12:10 PM

I don't believe in atheists.

toxicity 04-01-2007 12:39 PM

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I don't believe in atheists.

I don't believe in religion.

OANST 04-01-2007 01:10 PM

I don't believe in disbelief.

Arxryl 04-01-2007 02:39 PM

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Well that would be because, since they believe in ghosts, they put down what they see to ghostly activity.

Well, yes... that was the point of the joke. ;)

And Toxicity, if you don't belive in religion, then you believe in Aitheism, which is an "Ism" or ideal, so technically you do in a weird way believe in a sort of religion.

Arxryl- confusing myself daily. ;)

OANST 04-01-2007 02:42 PM

I don't believe in confusion.

Nate 04-01-2007 03:48 PM

I don't believe in OANST getting an infraction for spam. But my mind could change...

Salamander 04-02-2007 01:13 AM

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There is but one Grim Reaper in the 'verse, and he rides a white horse called Binky.

OH, REALLY?

One question I have towards the people who believe in the Grim Reaper. How can you believe in him when he is the personification of death and is most commonly spawned in popular fiction? (Considering you hadn't "Seen" the grim reaper) P.S: I'm not trying to discredit you in anyway.

Alf Shall Rise 04-02-2007 11:19 AM

I have, if you read my post. He isn't a skeleton, that's stupid myths and dumb stories, he's a shadow and isn't evil. =/

OANST 04-02-2007 11:58 AM

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I don't believe in OANST getting an infraction for spam. But my mind could change...


I liked that. It made me laugh. In a good way.

Statikk HDM 04-03-2007 07:26 AM

Ghosts are for the simple-minded. No evidence for it and its just totally absurd. But wouldn't it rock to be a ghost? Get to have great incubus-style sex with people, haunt people who deserve it, scare people and get superhuman strength to throw shit around. You have no hours, don't have to eat or sleep, are just about invincible. Seems like a sweet gig to me, a lot better than Christian or Islamic heaven at any rate.
What would you rather do, sit around in a dress all day telling a sociopath how great he is with some wimpy harp or bang hot people and pulls pranks all day?

Fluid 04-03-2007 11:26 AM

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I don't believe in OANST getting an infraction for spam. But my mind could change...

that would be good...




ghosts are product of human's imagination.....
convincing someone that ghosts do not excite is ''simple-minded'' .

do not give to much credits to things stupid as this...

OddjobAbe 04-04-2007 11:29 AM

Fluid, I don't mean to cause offence, but: I'm tired of your arrogant nature. For almost everything, you seem to have the need to make a 'clever' comment that is intended to offend/annoy/show ingorance or dislike to someone in a lot of your posts. And some of your posts seem utterly pointless. And would it hurt to throw in a bit of proper grammar? I'm finding it all hard to read.
Is all this just me being a maungy pot, or does anyone else feel this way?

snuzi 04-04-2007 12:42 PM

I completely agree with Oddjob. Fluid, your posts are usually pretty pointless. It seems that you usually psot only to get on people's nerves, and/or to get a chuckle out of someone (though, I can't understand how that would be achieved, as your humor is lacking). Seriously, what's point of posting if you have nothing to contribute but a a sentence or two that basically just says something stupid about a member with horrid grammar?

Arxryl 04-04-2007 05:17 PM

Uh... that's all good and all, but is leaning on the edge of hypocrisy. Do try not to spam too much. for I AM PERFECT! LISTEN TO ME! ;)
(I don't think I need to add "Just kidding" but, just in case...)


Any-hoo.... Even if Ghosts are just things people make up to amuse themselves then... Cool. they are doing their job. :)

snuzi 04-04-2007 08:01 PM

I honestly doubt people could just make them up. I mean, alot of people have claimed to see them. How could they all have hallucinated and seen practically the same type of image? :p

Arxryl 04-05-2007 04:44 PM

Exactly. There is a lot we can't really explain. See? I'm on the borderline. I don't know if I want to believe in ghosts or not. I haven't had any experience with ghosts, but I haven't had too much facts proving them non-existant.

The rebel inside me wants to believe they are real, but I am skeptical. Just a bit...

Nate 04-05-2007 06:36 PM

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I honestly doubt people could just make them up. I mean, alot of people have claimed to see them. How could they all have hallucinated and seen practically the same type of image? :p

Perhaps because they've all heard of each other, which colours their expectations? Perhaps because the situations that lead to a ghost-sighting (eg infra-sound or carbon monoxide inhalation) have consistent effects on different people (feeling a "presence", unexplained feelings of anxiety or dread, etc).

Arxryl 04-06-2007 05:28 AM

I didn't know Ghosts were an acoustic/indie band...

And I guess the same thing could be said about aliens.One person sees them and everyone after them sees them. Maybe ghosts and no-ghosts are just a large portion of "seeing what we want to see."

snuzi 04-06-2007 08:33 AM

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Perhaps because they've all heard of each other, which colours their expectations? Perhaps because the situations that lead to a ghost-sighting (eg infra-sound or carbon monoxide inhalation) have consistent effects on different people (feeling a "presence", unexplained feelings of anxiety or dread, etc).

That's possible, I suppose. Although, I honestly doubt that members of my family, as wel as my girlfriend, would fake seeing them just for the hell of it. Especially my girlfriend, since she'd never lie to me :p.

Nate 04-06-2007 08:06 PM

I'm not saying people fake it. I'm saying that people sense something and their subconscious fills in the blanks based on previous knowledge. Then the fact that it connects to their expectations of a ghost-experience merely reinforces to them that it must be real.

So it's really a self-fulfilling prophecy.

snuzi 04-06-2007 09:38 PM

Those are exactly the people I don't believe. If it's merely a feeling that a ghost might be there that's driving them to that conclusion, then it could certainly be misinterpreted. However, if they actually saw something; something that they cannot explain (i.e. someone in their house when all the doors are locked, someone who's been dead for years), then I will believe them.

And also, I usually only believe people I know wouldn't lie to me about such things.

Nate 04-06-2007 10:05 PM

*sigh*

Listen to me closely. Someone may sense something and assume it's a ghost. Their brain then tells them that they saw or heard someone. Senses lie, Mister Snuzi.

snuzi 04-06-2007 10:14 PM

Now, listen to me, Sir Nate ;). Senses can trick a person into believing they saw something, true. But. Senses cannot make them believe it was a specific person. How do you explain a person claiming they saw someone who's been dead for a decades?

And I'm not talking about someone who's had one significant death in the family. I'm talking about people who've had quite a few.

Nate 04-07-2007 05:57 AM

Why should the fact that they see a specific person surprise you? I would think it much more likely that you'd expect to see someone familiar than a complete stranger.

snuzi 04-07-2007 08:22 PM

On the contrary, I'd think it would be more likely for individuals trying to convince themselves that they saw a ghost, to imagine a perfect stranger. If they claim to have see someone related to them, who's been dead for awhile (especially if we're dealing with a relative they did not know very well, or at all), and are able to describe the person in detail, I feel that their claims suggest that they actually saw something rather than felt something.

Bullet Magnet 04-12-2007 08:11 AM

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I honestly doubt people could just make them up. I mean, alot of people have claimed to see them. How could they all have hallucinated and seen practically the same type of image? :p

Well we do all have the same basic brain structure, which would explain the same basic effects that drugs have on different people, or why we may see a bright light as our brains shut down.

Vanilla ✜ 04-08-2008 02:56 AM

I think Ghosts & Zombies are real.

Wings of Fire 04-08-2008 03:06 AM

Old thread, don't bump. RTFM!

Vanilla ✜ 04-08-2008 03:08 AM

God damm it!

Strike Witch 04-08-2008 03:31 AM

I'm sure you were just doing this to show affection towards me, right?

Vanilla ✜ 04-08-2008 04:22 AM

Yer im just trying to be nice.

Hobo 04-08-2008 08:12 AM

Old thread is closed. Cream if i have to tidy up after you anymore I'll give you an infraction