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OANST 01-13-2007 08:14 PM

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Like a few people before me, I am in fact more attracted to furries than humans.

It's just an uncouncious thing, it's not like I looked between the two and the cheetah woman got me more excited than the real thing because I convinced myself, but rather that it more naturally did that stuff.

I think that everyone at least thinks of the animals once in their life, so that's ok. But to actually commit the act is unforgiviable.

Yes, I know I'm basically posting the same viewpoint as most of the people who have already posted. Sue me, I'm trying to get my attention in this forum back up before I commit another 'I'm leaving and not coming back' crime.

Here's the difference. You can't have sex with Cheetarah. Here's why= she doesn't fucking exist. And if you honestly think that everyone considers sex with an animal at some point then you aren't just a freak but completely deluded as well. Well.......there was that sheep wearing the sheer teddy last week. God, that sheep was hot.



Freak.

mitsur 01-13-2007 08:21 PM

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Here's the difference. You can't have sex with Cheetarah. Here's why= she doesn't fucking exist. And if you honestly think that everyone considers sex with an animal at some point then you aren't just a freak but completely deluded as well. Well.......there was that sheep wearing the sheer teddy last week. God, that sheep was hot.



Freak.

Did I just get anti-owned?

OANST, how is it that you can never respect anyone but yourself's opinions?

I am not putting up with it anymore.

Fuck off. I can think what I want, and you have no right at all to say I'm wrong. Don't go against someone's thoughts just because they have one.

OANST 01-13-2007 08:28 PM

You are only wrong about everyone else liking animals. I'm sure you are right about your desire to suckle at the cock of a horse.

mitsur 01-13-2007 08:31 PM

Forget it. You're not even worth explaining what I meant.

snuzi 01-13-2007 08:32 PM

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You are only wrong about everyone else liking animals.

That may be true, but there's no need to bash him for what he likes. Your opinions on the matter aren't necessarily everybody elses', and the sooner you learn that, the sooner you'll establish yourself as a mature individual, rather than a child who wants everything his way.

OANST 01-13-2007 08:36 PM

I don't need things to be any certain way. He's just an easy target and I like starting arguments. Dulls the pain, don't you know.

Cullen Heath 01-13-2007 08:37 PM

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I'm sure you are right about your desire to suckle at the cock of a horse.

Oh, God, that's rich!

I think that Bestiality is one of the most messed up things around. Even just thinking about it is messed up. It's unnatural, and disgusting.

snuzi 01-13-2007 08:42 PM

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I don't need things to be any certain way. He's just an easy target and I like starting arguments. Dulls the pain, don't you know.

That's the same thing. You're instigating an arguement in order to attempt to prove that your opinion is law. So, you do need things to be a certain way: your way.

What I don't understand is why you would go through so much trouble and directly insult someone in order to do so. Do you really need that much of a self-esteem boost?

OANST 01-13-2007 08:45 PM

It's just the internet, man. Don't take it so seriously.

snuzi 01-13-2007 08:51 PM

And why shouldn't I? It's the same thing as insulting a person in real life. It can still hurt. All I'm trying to point out is that you should be more respectful towards other people and that you should stop persecuting them for their views.

OANST 01-13-2007 08:58 PM

I merely say what I think. Anyone who thinks they are attracted to animals because they saw a picture of a sexy cheetah woman which I'm sure was intentionaly designed to be alluring is obviously too stupid to even understand himself. I don't sit idly by and let people say the most ridiculous things they can think of. If I happen to make the post funny at the same time......well, that's just an added bonus for you. I'm a prick. What can I say.

snuzi 01-13-2007 09:01 PM

Well, would it really be that hard to say what you think without bashing the other person in the process? I'm all for self-expression, but not at other people's expense. After all, it is possible to state your opinion, as well as challenge another individual's opinion, without insulting them.

I mean, I don't agree with bestiality either, but you don't see me bashing anyone for liking furries and whatnot.

OANST 01-13-2007 09:08 PM

People can like whatever they want. It's the stupidity that I took exception to.

mitsur 01-13-2007 09:10 PM

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Well, would it really be that hard to say what you think without bashing the other person in the process? I'm all for self-expression, but not at other people's expense. After all, it is possible to state your opinion, as well as challenge another individual's opinion, without insulting them.

I mean, I don't agree with bestiality either, but you don't see me bashing anyone for liking furries and whatnot.

Let me just point out that in NO WAY at all do I beleive in bestiality. Sure, I look at furries, but I don't think about f***ing my dog or whatever.

OANST 01-13-2007 09:12 PM

I thought we've all had those thoughts about animals......

snuzi 01-13-2007 09:12 PM

Again, only you view it as stupidity because of your views.

OANST 01-13-2007 09:15 PM

But my views are right and since we all know it then it must be stupid.

Abeguy 01-13-2007 09:16 PM

I'll admit, furries are hawt...and it's because it add two things we love...Cute furry animals, and naked humans. How can we not love that?

but, to have sex with a furry if they existed? hell no, they would look nothing like their awesome anime counterparts.

Think of having sex with an actor from the muscial, CATS, while they were still in there make up...that does not turn me on

snuzi 01-13-2007 09:25 PM

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But my views are right and since we all know it then it must be stupid.

All of us do not think that your views are right. Sure, there might be quite a few that agree with you, but once again, not everyone thinks the way you do. By thinking so, you prove how immature you truly are.

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I'll admit, furries are hawt...and it's because it add two things we love...Cute furry animals, and naked humans. How can we not love that?

but, to have sex with a furry if they existed? hell no, they would look nothing like their awesome anime counterparts.

Think of having sex with an actor from the muscial, CATS, while they were still in there make up...that does not turn me on

I think the main reasons why people find furries sexually appealing is because they resemble humans, and because they can't have them in real life. Perhaps the fantasy of it is exciting to them.

OANST 01-13-2007 09:32 PM

It was a joke. I make jokes. They are funny. Unless you decide that they are meant to be serious, which you obviously have done. Of course, there are other reasons why it might not be funny but I tend to ignore them. Seriously though, calm down. If you can explain to me how Mitsur's post was intelligent then I will admit wrong and call it a day. Otherwise you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of and arguing for the sake of being right. Which you're right. That's what I do. But knowing that I'm right before I say something sure does help me win these arguments.


Edit: You take freakin' forever to reply.

snuzi 01-13-2007 09:47 PM

This isn't about mitsur's post being intelligent or being stupid. And I'm not arguing for the sake of being right. I'm arguing because I feel that your responses to other people's views are inappropriate, hurtful, and childish. That's what this is about. You're straying from the original problem, which was respecting other people's opinions.

And you don't know that you're right. You think that you're right, and type up nonsense that you believe proves that you're right.

Your arguements are pointless. You can't honestly believe that you have a legitimate reason for why insulting others for their opinions is a good thing. If you truly believe that you do, please, by all means, share it with me. I can tell you right now that it won't make sense in the least.

used:) 01-13-2007 10:00 PM

To hell with respecting other peoples' opinions, cheap PC retards.

Anyway, I believe that people find anthropomorphic erotica attractive because, to them, it symbolizes transformation. The viewers probably come form pasts of being oppressed or being weak and figures like an anthropomorphic wolf symbolize a transition from weak to strong. The human qualities help them to associate better. If that is not the case, then it is also likely that it symbolizes loosing control or "being free." This is present in other fetishes like bondage. People with a lot of built up stress sometimes take to things like this.

OANST 01-13-2007 10:05 PM

Ooohhhhh. You're operating under the assumption that everyone's opinion should be respected. That's where the problem is coming in. See, I disagree. I'm of the opinion (and feel free to disrespect this opinion) that if someone says something stupid they should have someone let them know. Could I be nicer about it? Sure, I could. But I've already admitted to being a prick and I'm not sure what else you want from me on that front. And of course I believe I'm right. There wouldn't be much point in posting if I didn't believe what I'm saying. 99 percent of my posts are merely meant to be at least mildly amusing and I only insult people that I have a history of arguing with and have proven themselves to not have a well thought idea in their heads. I have not insulted you, have I? No, I haven't. That's because it would appear that you have actually considered what you are saying before saying it. The whole immaturity argument though.....you might want to drop that. I know more about being a responsible human being than any of you here and I live my life without "hurting" anyone. If a person wants to come into a web forum and say stupid shit over and over and over again however, they are going to have to expect someone to say something to them.

used:) 01-13-2007 10:21 PM

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All this being said I was once sexually assailed by a wasp.

You make me laugh, funya boi!

I geuss at one point whilst being subjected to view all the furrie shit on DeviantART I did try and find the anthropomorphic figure attractive, but it dun din't work. Sorry. Of course I am a little stirred by the image of a huge lion, but I think all humans are naturally meant to be a little bit sexually obsessive, what with reproductive instincts and all.

snuzi 01-13-2007 10:27 PM

God, this is becomming tiring.

Look, I agree that if someone says something that you find idiotic in some way, that you should let them know. I do the exact same thing, believe me. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't deliberatly insult them while you're at it. I mean, what's the point? All it does is ultimately ruin everyone's mood.

I didn't say that I didn't think you believed in whatever you were posting. I was saying that just because you believe it, once again, does not prove you are right. You can have reasons for why you believe whatever you may believe, but it still won't make you right.

No, you have not insulted me, and I appreciate it. I have also tried my best not to insult you either, since that would contradict my entire point, rendering this entire arguement senseless.

As for the whole immaturity thing, I was not calling you immature. I was saying that you're acting immaturely on here. I haven't the slightest clue how you act in real life, nor do I know what kind of person you really are, so there would be no point in stating something that I knew nothing about.

I agree with you once again on the whole "posting idiotic things over and over" deal. Although, they should be reprehended, but not insulted. Insulting those people would be completely senseless, since you'd be bringing something into the argument that really didn't belong there in the first place.

Look, I really think we should stop this. I don't want either of us being warned for spamming or anything. If you want, we can just continue this in PM's, so that we don't bother anyone else with our disagreement.

moxco 01-13-2007 11:53 PM

Well If a person has a sexaul realtion ship with an animal, woudn't you hear things on the news about hybrids being born? Or if a man human has sex with a female animal dose he use condom's?

snuzi 01-14-2007 12:26 AM

If a human has intercourse with an animal, he, she, or it cannot get pregnant. Species can't just interbreed with species of a completely different phyla. It doesn't work that way.

Havoc 01-14-2007 01:08 AM

Snuzi, stop bothering with OANST. All you're doing is make him smile on the otherside of the internets. OANST, Snuzi is right. You are (or pretend to) some arogant twat who thinks he knows everything and that he's always right. Your opinions arn't worth jack shit, dude. Not worth any more then mine or Snuzi's for that matter, so stop pretending your something important. And I'm not going to argue this with you, whether you like it or not. Now keep your bashing and stupid arguing out of my thread.

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Think of having sex with an actor from the muscial, CATS, while they were still in there make up...that does not turn me on
It doesn't do it for me either but... I did happen to see pictures of that recently... they were quite funny :p.

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I think that everyone at least thinks of the animals once in their life, so that's ok. But to actually commit the act is unforgiviable.
Why would it be unforgivable? If the animal clearly shows that it wants too and isn't hurt in any way then what is so wrong about it. It's weird, yes, I don't disagree with that. But it only gets wrong when the animal is forced into it IMO. I mean seriously, if some hot chick starts doing her thing with a horse, I don't think the horse would complain! Would you? :p

Hobo 01-14-2007 04:25 AM

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It's just the internet, man. Don't take it so seriously.

Quoted for some serious truth

OANST 01-14-2007 03:39 PM

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Snuzi, stop bothering with OANST. All you're doing is make him smile on the otherside of the internets. OANST, Snuzi is right. You are (or pretend to) some arogant twat who thinks he knows everything and that he's always right. Your opinions arn't worth jack shit, dude. Not worth any more then mine or Snuzi's for that matter, so stop pretending your something important. And I'm not going to argue this with you, whether you like it or not. Now keep your bashing and stupid arguing out of my thread.



It doesn't do it for me either but... I did happen to see pictures of that recently... they were quite funny :p.



Why would it be unforgivable? If the animal clearly shows that it wants too and isn't hurt in any way then what is so wrong about it. It's weird, yes, I don't disagree with that. But it only gets wrong when the animal is forced into it IMO. I mean seriously, if some hot chick starts doing her thing with a horse, I don't think the horse would complain! Would you? :p

Yes.....calling me a twat is the way to get me to stop. This has certainly been proven by you before in that thread that you just completely messed me up in. What thread was that? Oh, it didn't happen. Look, my opinions are my opinions. My faith in them doesn't necessarily make them right but your unfaith in them doesn't make them wrong either. I don't think I'm anything important. I'm just a person. Just one human being who is going to put his opinion down on here just like you are. I've said this before: if you want to have a conversation with someone who always agrees with you then you had better start conjuring up some multiple personalities inside your own head. Even those would probably disagree with some of the ignorant shit and completely "jump on the bandwagon" slogans that pop out of your fingertips from time to time.

And snuzi, if this was becoming so tiring then you probably would not have spent half an hour formulating a reply and then not even post it so you could wait how ever many hours you did to formulate your best response. I watched you sit and try to figure out the reply and then just take off. You took the argument into a whole new day.

I would like you to explain to me why everything has to have a point or make some sense. Sometimes things are just fun. Like me fucking with Mitsur. It's just plain fun. And for the record, what I said to him could barely be considered an insult. It was a joke and nothing more.

skillya_glowi 01-14-2007 04:18 PM

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Yay! I am not alone anymore. And cats too, you just made my day :happy: . Ver courageous of you to just step out like that, I commend you for that.

Aw, how awfully sweet of you to say ^^ Certainly made my day, reading that. :D


Okay, for the past two pages, I've seen them taken up by approximately 90% of two things: furry fandom, which no one has apparently anything against, and an enormous number of posts regarding OANST's rift with Snuzi.

My two cents on furry fandom:
Completely delusional. It's almost like fantasizing about sex with a dragon. What the fuck? It's never going to happen. It may be an art form, but if you're saying that you like furries more than humans, that, in my eyes, is indeed very strange. Plus, if you want to mix animals with humans and keep neither in their true form, there has to be some sort of magnetism to animals, or otherwise you wouldn't be doing it. Therefore anyone who looks at yiffy porn and says that they have no sexual attraction to animals is in for a long round of introspection.


I agree with Havoc...If the animal has nothing against it, and there is some sort of bond between the two, I consider it acceptable. If you're just raping some cow to jack off, though, I think that's totally wrong.

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You know, someone could logically argue for zoophilia (or whatever) and make a bunch of valid points, I'm sure, but at some point you just instinctively know when something is just plain wrong. You know. Like committing murder.


Thing is, most zoophiles (I'm really speaking for myself here, I'm only guessing that most) realize that what they're doing is wrong. I never believed that having a sexual attraction to animals is right or moral in any way. I know it's wrong, but there's really no way I can quench those feelings.


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I know eactly what you mean. Kids these days, for some reason, feel that chosing to be gay or bi, will assist them in gaining popularity or friends, or will be a means of rebelling against their parents and establishing themselves as "individuals". They view it as a choice, whether than a work of nature. It just really angers me, since they try to fit into every stereotype that has to do with their chosen sexuality, thereby insulting actualy homosexuals who have been gay, bi, or lesbian from the start.

Perhaps certain people can do the same thing when it comes to zoophilia, and make themselves like it in order to fit into that group. I really wouldn't be surprised.

As a matter of fact, that really does happen. Unfortunately, I have firsthand experience in it. A couple weeks after I told a friend of mine about being a zoophile, she started getting all "interested" in dragons and would make comments like "That's a sexy dragon", just like I sometimes said, "Gawd that sexy lion!".
...Copycat...
I see no reason for her to do it though, since, you know, in our quiet little town I'm guessing there are few, if any, zoophiles at all and she wouldn't be doing it to gain popularity.
However, I agree with the noncomformity factor, that sometimes, you just want to stand out from the crowd and be seen as something very unique and unusual, and that's okay, but when you use zoophilia to do it, it gets...weird. You actually turn more people against you that look up to you in awe.



And like Havoc said (again), I wouldn't really call zoophilia a sexual orientation because most -- I did say most -- zoophiles still retain an attraction to their own species.

NoIndexHere 01-14-2007 04:19 PM

.... well, to admit, i am a zoo too. ... *oh please spare me*
.. and i am sexually attracted to -some- animals like tigers and dogs ...
Just the word -philia doesn't mean anything bad. There are many words with that in them (eg. Audiophile ... sounds bad? .. because i'm also that)
But raping furry creatures, .. no.
It is not like that. ..

I'm horny,
you are hot.
Lets have sex. ...


But what can i do. .. i cannot change myself ... yes, i can go to a psychiatrist (who would probably run away screaming after five minutes of talk) ... i could take lithium, so it would mess up my brains so i couldn't get hard never again and go all squishy and loose a screw or two, and i could get de-neutered so i would loose my sex drive ....

... you are hurting animal....
umm, yes. 400lb tiger can't think on it's own and i'm forcing him into pawing off. Jezz, if there was something he wouldn't like i'd be dead before i could even realize what happened.

With my mind, i could blow this world into half (or in quarters if you want :P) or save it from destruction ... it is your choice ...
... people that are looking me aside and judging me every day don't even know what is in my head. I'm not just one stupid prick that wants to f* everything that has four legs and a fur ... i know more about -things- that most of them will know in their entire life ..

OANST 01-14-2007 04:33 PM

The only problem I have with your post was the "With my mind, i could blow this world into half (or in quarters if you want :P) or save it from destruction ... it is your choice ..." part. That confused the hell out of me.

Bullet Magnet 01-14-2007 04:54 PM

What an entrance...

Strike Witch 01-14-2007 05:51 PM

Kinda....I dunno, Emo?

Statikk HDM 01-14-2007 07:32 PM

Okay, now that we're all in the spirit of confession and GWAR quoting I have something very important to say...
My jizz tastes great.

snuzi 01-14-2007 07:55 PM

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And snuzi, if this was becoming so tiring then you probably would not have spent half an hour formulating a reply and then not even post it so you could wait how ever many hours you did to formulate your best response. I watched you sit and try to figure out the reply and then just take off. You took the argument into a whole new day.

I would like you to explain to me why everything has to have a point or make some sense. Sometimes things are just fun. Like me fucking with Mitsur. It's just plain fun. And for the record, what I said to him could barely be considered an insult. It was a joke and nothing more.

Unfortunately, I wasn't sitting here trying to think up a response to your posts the entire time. The reason why it took me so long to respond was because:

a. My internet connection sucks.
b. I was playing video games at the same time.
c. I was exhausted from an entire night of absolutely no sleep.

If those factors were to be eliminated, then my responses would be nice and speedy :).

Also, I'm not going to continue this arguement. I don't want to spam Havoc's topic, since it's a very interesting one. As I've said before, if you wish to continue this, PM me. I'd be happy to continue it privately, rather than ruin someone's post over it.

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As a matter of fact, that really does happen. Unfortunately, I have firsthand experience in it. A couple weeks after I told a friend of mine about being a zoophile, she started getting all "interested" in dragons and would make comments like "That's a sexy dragon", just like I sometimes said, "Gawd that sexy lion!".
...Copycat...
I see no reason for her to do it though, since, you know, in our quiet little town I'm guessing there are few, if any, zoophiles at all and she wouldn't be doing it to gain popularity.
However, I agree with the noncomformity factor, that sometimes, you just want to stand out from the crowd and be seen as something very unique and unusual, and that's okay, but when you use zoophilia to do it, it gets...weird. You actually turn more people against you that look up to you in awe.

Ugh, I hate that. If zoophilia were to become popular here, I bet that every single self-esteem deprived or rebelious teen would hop on the bandwagon. People here seem to view those types of things as trends, rather than natural occurances. It really perturbs me.

aaj111 01-14-2007 08:13 PM

Woah, This thread has gotten alot of response, am I the only one creeped out by that?

snuzi 01-14-2007 08:37 PM

Well, most of it is kinda off-topic. But why would you be freaked out by it? It's an interesting topic to discuss.

Havoc 01-15-2007 03:26 AM

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Thing is, most zoophiles (I'm really speaking for myself here, I'm only guessing that most) realize that what they're doing is wrong. I never believed that having a sexual attraction to animals is right or moral in any way. I know it's wrong, but there's really no way I can quench those feelings.
I don't necessarily realize I'm doing anything wrong perce. What I realize is that what I do and want to do is going to be considered wrong by the rest of the society. There's a big difference there because in my own experience, I've never done anything wrong when it comes to animals.

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... you are hurting animal....
umm, yes. 400lb tiger can't think on it's own and i'm forcing him into pawing off. Jezz, if there was something he wouldn't like i'd be dead before i could even realize what happened.
I have always LOVED that argument, mostly because of it's stupidity XD.

"You are having sexy time with that animal because it can't fight back!!'

Seriously, what? Any animal big enough to have sex with is also big enough to kick your ass when you do something it doesn't like. And I mean seriously kick your ass, mister horse will kick your ass to the other side of the barn if you do something unwanted. And you'll be lucky to live. Not to mention tigers and other big cats although that luckily never happened to me yet...

Havoc