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Jordan 12-15-2006 12:47 PM

First of all, nice sig Glokstar, second, pack it in with the spam!

Abe sort of has a 'snout' above his mouth, it's like a lump thing, perhaps this is his nose, and he might have tiny nostrils on it or none at all.

Abeguy 12-15-2006 03:09 PM

YEah...

I just think it's through the mouth...like many have stated...makes the most sense

Xavier 12-15-2006 03:10 PM

agreed, stay on topic and stop spamming
personal or not intresting to the whole public questions can be asked via PM

glokstar 12-15-2006 04:11 PM

I wish Alf would explain everything in a nice, thorough manner. It will of course never happen :D

snuzi 12-15-2006 05:37 PM

Perhaps if someone found an image of a mudokon skeleton, we could settle this once and for all.

skillya_glowi 12-15-2006 07:29 PM

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that would be very surprising since he left Oddworld for HighMoon Studios before the developpement for Stranger started :p

No wonder that Stranger didn't even seem like Oddworld at all. It was Farzad's touch. *sniffle*

Oh and...Xavier? Any Mud skeleton pics?

snuzi 12-15-2006 08:23 PM

I hope there's at least one out there. I've searched all over for one, but found nothing, unfortunately.

Jordan 12-15-2006 11:02 PM

How about that one in the intro of AE? That one where the Mudokon is crouched up, does that show anything?

snuzi 12-15-2006 11:23 PM

Eh, not really, since it's only showing the Mudokon from the side. Plus, it isn't very detailed.

Fuzzle Guy 12-15-2006 11:59 PM

You don't need a nose to breath. I was unable to breath through my nose till I was nine years old (I had an operation to cure this problem). I managed to stay alive for nine years, even if I couldn't smell anything.

So I'm guessing he breaths through his mouth.

snuzi 12-16-2006 12:03 AM

Well, actually, we're trying to figure out if mudokons can smell now. And if so, using what? :p

Slaveless 12-16-2006 06:24 AM

Mudokons do have nostrils. I saw them on one of the Mudokon's skull, which are right above their eyes. These can be seen in the copyright images of AE, right before the game begins. Didn't you see the skeletons?

snuzi 12-16-2006 11:25 AM

Actually, no, I haven't. Could you maybe show me a screencap or something of it?

Jordan 12-16-2006 12:38 PM

They're right above the eyes? That is definately strange, I wonder how they sniff, they'd probably do what we do to raise our eye brows, weird! '.'

snuzi 12-16-2006 12:43 PM

If the mudokons have their nostrils above their eyes, then their skulls must be similar to the ratz. It's still odd that their nostrils aren't visible at all.

Jordan 12-16-2006 12:46 PM

Perhaps skin covers them and when they are used for smelling they open up, a bit like how fish gills work, sort of...

snuzi 12-16-2006 12:52 PM

I doubt it, since we would have probably noticed that somewhere along the line.

Jordan 12-16-2006 12:54 PM

I guess it's one of the mysteries of Oddworld, and it probably won't be that important in future, unless OWI show how Abe breaths in a future movie/game.

snuzi 12-16-2006 01:01 PM

Yeah, seriously. I doubt we'll find anything out anytime soon.

Xavier 12-17-2006 01:17 AM

there are mudokon skeletons in the art of book, I'm not sure some were released on the net, If I have one, then it's on TOGG

Jordan 12-17-2006 06:09 AM

I should be able to have a look at those Mudokon skeletons, I'm getting the Art book for christmas, finally!

snuzi 12-17-2006 07:25 AM

Lucky. I want that book so badly, and if I had it, it'd make topics like this easier to contribute to.

Xavier 12-17-2006 07:34 AM

I just too a look and I can confirm his skull has no extra holes for something that could be a nose.

glokstar 12-17-2006 07:52 AM

Here is a skeleton i have from a "secret" place :p. Its not very informing but its the best so far.
There are no holes on the skull for this one either.

Jordan 12-17-2006 08:46 AM

Hey! I want to see that DVD so much, you could have put a spoiler message above the picture! >.<

looney-bin 12-17-2006 09:18 AM

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Here is a skeleton from the Bonus DVD. Its ot very informing but its the best so far.
There are no holes on the skull for this one either.

I might know what that is. Originaly in AE, there were going to be zombies in the Necrum burial grounds, but for some reason they weren't in the final product.

Jordan 12-17-2006 09:30 AM

Zombies would be so funny! Ah, I'm tempted to spam coz I've just been random spamming Lord Vulcher's forum, it felt so good to do that!
My name is I_Hate_Creator on the site! Lolness!

Zerox 12-17-2006 11:01 AM

They were to be called Mudombies; dead Mudokon spirits angry about disturbance of their resting place; in other words, crawling, idiot Mudokons.
Checked Art book, page 41. Look closely at the side and front Abe skeletons.between the eye sockets, slightly above them, are two little 'dents' or holes. Could these be possible nostril areas, particularly when thinking of closeness to birds and where nostrils would have been on beak (especially note how the skeleton featured was an updated version, particularly when looking at the hands with only 2 fingers and a thumb, rather than the original 3 fingers)

snuzi 12-17-2006 01:27 PM

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I just too a look and I can confirm his skull has no extra holes for something that could be a nose.

Well, there ya go, everyone. We now know that mudokons do not have noses.

glokstar 12-17-2006 02:51 PM

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Hey! I want to see that DVD so much, you could have put a spoiler message above the picture! >.<
Well sorry, Jordan_Boi, im just trying to contribute something to the discussion here. :S

Jordan 12-17-2006 03:03 PM

Don't worry, just try to put spoiler messages above the thing, okay dude?

Slaveless 12-17-2006 03:07 PM

They don't have holes. They're slits above the Mudokons skull. Besides, Mudokons don't have noses for sure. They have nostrils. If you looked above Abe's eyes on the front of AO and AE disks, there are little slits. These might be something that might point out to nostrils. Not something huge, but still.

glokstar 12-17-2006 03:11 PM

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Don't worry, just try to put spoiler messages above the thing, okay dude?

What exactly is a spoiler message?

snuzi 12-17-2006 08:06 PM

Um, a message about spoiling the plot or ending of something?

i.e. The contents of the bonus DVD?

Nate 12-18-2006 01:50 AM

That doesn't count as a spoiler really. The contents of the DVD (and everything else we know regarding OWI atm) are considered General Discussion these days.

glokstar 12-18-2006 04:10 AM

Well im sorry. I actually thought you would be happy to know that pic is from the*edit* "secret place". I would have been happy to know... But dont worry there are planty of things on that *edit* "secret place" that you dont know about and i have not spoiled it for u.
On other forums they have never asked me to write spoiler messages on such things, but then im not on many forums. I only care about OW.

So now that i know, next time ill try to pay attention.

P.S. And ill edit that post for u if u want, so thet it is not spoiled for others :)

Jordan 12-18-2006 04:14 AM

Lol, Glokstar, just drop it, I was being a muppet, don't listen to me! :D
It's just... I get touchy about not having the DVD, but now I'm happy to have seen that zombie lol, I'm sorry! :)

glokstar 12-18-2006 04:44 AM

Haha, whats funny is that i dont have the damn thing either, on ly the vob files that are incomplete. So the thing video content jumps around randomly. Its quite annoying. I gave up on having it... the only seeder desappeared :S

Anyway, sorry for spamming. Back to respiratory issues. :p

Zerox 12-18-2006 09:13 AM

Been having a good look at this image.
http://www.vgmuseum.com/scans/psx/od...ysee_front.jpg
Really can't see anything...but I was just thinking...some amphibians breath through their skin, at least partially, right? So is it possible Mudokons have evolved to be able to breath like this?

Jordan 12-18-2006 09:29 AM

The link's broken, do you think you could fix it? Thankyou :)