We have the right because we're human and the action is obviously wrong.

Even if hypocrisy is involved (welcome to planet Earth), a correct assessment has been made. So... what is your point?

I don't think ANYONE is under the assumption the West and the Rest are angels, but the levels involved here are pretty obvious.

Korea has had it's conflicts with the US and the rest of the world in history, so obviously not a lot of country's are their best friends.

Uh-huh. Righto. Evolution can definitely be described as a ladder as there are tons of branching clades (that often even look like ladders! With steps! Gasp!), and if a branching species happens to be under the right conditions to develop some specialized, more complex synapomorphies, then I certainly feel comfortable saying it climbed its way up the evolutionary ladder. :D

MF, must you be so.. critical of emotional expression? There's absolutely nothing wrong with saying anything, however pointless it seems to you, that expresses how one feels about a topic like this. Now, maybe you meant it's pointless to talk about something that will never change. In that case, fine. However, I still can't see how anyone would find pointlessness in my statement over finding the pointlessness of the human species acting in such manners. There's simply no excuses for some of the biggest issues of suffering and violence in the world. Our species has the power to overcome these things, but we simply... don't. It's all so outrageously pointless to have the power we have and never better the world with it. Instead we build bombs. A waste of power, time, and life.

But anyway, it'd be pointless for you to reply to something so pointless. Because it's pointless to pointlessly talk about someone else pointlessly talking about something pointless. Ho ho ho.

Well, evolution doesn't neccessarily make organisms more complex. It just has in the past because for a while, there was nowhere to go but "up", wherever that is.

I have no issue with emotion. Abuses of power, corruption, hate, etc all make my blood boil like it would most. You saw me express MY emotion in this thread in a very clear way. By calling idiots idiots. I just hate the way you can phrase things, it contains no bite and reads as so twee. In fact, whenever I'm obnoxious about any of your posts it is most probably because it's twee. Can't stand the stuff.

RELEVANT: the Dear Leader wears platform shoes cos he's so small. Pretty funny, huh? That's probably why he wants nukes.

You think he's overcompensating with violence? America has a former cheerleader dry drunk who has failed at everything he's ever done. And the cherry on the top is that he has serious, serious daddy issues. Sophocles coulda made a career out of it!
Oedipus Tex: The overmedicated underachieving Boy King! I see that the U.N. is passing sanctions. Yeah, that'll show all the people trembling for their lives under a fagatronically violent police state that the good guys can starve them to save face, too. Maybe if Bush puts on the codpiece again and Condi puts on her Mistress boots and everybody glowers and threatens North Korea they'll stop making nukes. Yeah, lets threaten North Korea again and then do jack shit to them. Everything about that "strategy" has worked out great so far, right? Nah, we have to step it up a little. There can be no shame in our game! Lets threaten them with air strikes and invasion and call it "diplomacy".
See;Iraq.

No offense, but sweet mother of Freud, that post sounded like a copy and paste from this (http://sean.gleeson.us/2004/11/17/ch...rtual_moonbat).

Don't believe everything Michael Moore tells you. It ain't healthy to blindly follow anyone, unless they're God and can prove it.

You know, this whole US/NK nuclear bomb situation was eerily like a dream I had. But this time, NK actually started a nuclear war, sending the rest of the world into an atomic winter.

On a much brighter note (for me), the news said that NK would most likely target large cities if a war ever happened, so i'm safe in my own really small corner of Idaho.

If a war did break out, I hope everyone joins NK and levels out America completely. Or just rush Washington with entire NK and Europe and make a World Citizin Arrest so peace can finaly come back to the world.

No you're hoping that an immoral dictatorship wipes out 250 million innocent people just because there are a couple of individuals at the top whom you dissapprove of?

Idiot.

Quoted for truth. And pissing taking of tiger boy.

Patrick Vykkers, stop psychoanalyzing everyone. Its annoying as hell.
If you're too smart for the club...
BOUNCE MOTHER****ER.

Havok. Havok, Havok, Havok. Just because you want 'world peace' dosen't mean people should slaughtered for it. Even those jerks in the government who are using their jobs to help themselves. Ok, maybe THEY derserve to die. Maybe.

I'd just like this to get over with. I'm tired of the news screaming voer and over 'EXCLUSIVE STORY ON NORTH KOREA! FIND OUT THE TRUTH, AND WHAT YOU CAN DO!' It gets extremly old very fast.

Shut the fuck up, you drooling moron. I'm not even going to give reasons for how stupid that statement is because they are far too numerous and I am far too dumbfounded by your complete belief in the anti-American propoganda. You ought to be fucking ashamed of yourself.

Havoc, if you knew anything about current American politics you would know half of America would like nothing more than to see the Bush administration removed form power. Be careful where you place words like that when you're ignorant of the subject.

Once again Havok is turning this into a 'Bush sucks' thread.

Havok, you have to look at the facts before you blatantly start screaming out anti-american info. Over half of the US is tired of the so-called 'War on Terror'. Bush is already elected, and unless he does something as stupid as Nixon did and gets impeached, you'll have to deal with. Unless you found the time machine I could've sworn Al, Rexy, and I destroyed all those years ago, you can't change the past.

*goes off mumbling*I mean, the anti-matter bomb SHOULD have worked.

Wow wow wow... do I realy need to put a large sign that says 'SARCASM, DO NOT TAKE TO SERIOUS' over every rant post I make. Please tell me you all know a LITTLE better then that.

Yes I do still think Bush should be put out of office, sooner then later. I don't care if the entire European union has to roll into Washington and surround the white house. But if I say that I wish for North Korea to take controll in that, please tell me you didn't actualy thing I meant that! Not after my critique on America and stuff... Come one people, little faith in little old me >_>.

Ok, I'm sorry Havoc. I'm just tired of people saying Bush is a total moron for one reason or another.

Especially that stupid mother whos camped out at the prez's ranch. Her son knew that he could die serving in the army, and he still signed up. And now shes ranting on about it. It pisses me off that shes screwing over his memory and intention by using it as a method to seed anger and hate over Bush and a war meant to make the world a better place.

Dude, talking about nuking about millions, even in a jokingly fashion, isn't funny.

The loss of a child is a terrible thing. you can't know the helpless anger until it happens to you. Try not to judge her too harshly.

That's true, and I don't know it. I'm only 14. I've still got at the very least 4 or so years until I'd have even a chance of knowing. and I hope I never know.

But still, it's like she's pissing on the grave of her son. i'll repeat myself: He knew the risks, he knew he would probably go to Iraq, and he still signed up for the army, with this knowledge. He died for something he believed in, and now his mother is saying it should have never happened in the first place. It's like sacrificing yourself to save people, and then the people themselves say you should have never had something to sacrifice for.

And I agree with you to a point. But again, the death of a child changes a person forever. Some people can't cope with it. No parent should outlive their children. It's awful.

I agree with Mat. Keep in mind these are human beings we're talking about, not just worker bees in society. She has every right to be pissed to that extent about the state of things.

This is kinda weird. In one topic, we're pissed at each other, but we're agreeing here. Strange what the difference a length between two topics on a web page can make.

Well, the thing is that shes just making such a big deal about it. Shes camped out Bush's ranch house for god's sake. She pestering him every day he's there.

She's talking about how Bush ruined her life, look what's she's doing now! She's using everything she can to make him look bad and incompetent, and to make it worse, she won't leave him alone. I hope he sues her ass for slander and disturbing the peace. Then she and the press will finally shut up.

And don't forget the 'peace prize' incident. That makes me sick. Someone who's riling up people to overthrow a government who's trying to do something to save people less fortunate than us is in the running for the Nobel peace prize? Sure.

Well, that should just show you that I'm not a complete prick but that I just cannot abide ignorance.

I already knew that. I have pages and pages of Necrum stuff that contributes to the fact you're not a prick. I was just arguing with you because I'm tired of people flaming each other over whos right or who really sees the truth. It happens enough on the news or at High School.

Which is EXACTLY the reason this war is such an abhorrence and people are so angry and upset by it. And that’s exactly reason why that crrrrrazy mum was camped outside, pissing in the wind.

Seriously, out of ALL the things to bitch about – why this? I’m quite astounded by your repeated ignorance here. You don’t deserve such diplomacy. :rolleyes:

Kim is a poser!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...w093930D57.DTL
Hmm, no radioactivity. That theory of a large amount of conventional explosives underground is starting to sound plausible.

So. Uh. Quick question... Did anyone happen to notice that NK sent a nice little missile/bomb to Hawaii? Anyone? Because I only found this out earlier this week, and I'm a bit freaked out that few people know here (in our own friggin' country!) and it seems like no one really cares... Um. Almost bombed? That's kind of a big deal in my book.

Luckily (and obviously), NK's attempt failed, but who's to stop them from trying again? *Sigh* All we can do is set our terrorism rainbow to orange and hope for the best.

Ummm... Was it to Hawaii or in the direction of Hawaii? How far did it get? Because it seems strange that I'd not heard of something like that.

It sure as hell couldn't be TO Hawaii, NK doesn't possess ICBM's yet.

It was in the general direction of Hawaii. It didn't get very far.

Thats like picking up a rock and throwing it in the General direction of the Pope and calling it an assassination attempt.

Yes. A highly explosive rock.

No it isn't!

Gentlemen pleasure, your tone is very incivil.
Lets talk about the situation with Iran, http://www.pensitoreview.com/2006/10...this-saturday/ The shit will really hit the fan if they attack!

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/23/...clear-rooting/
Why hello nurse. I knew they wanted that bomb to go off!

Of course they did. It's not like it actively harmed anyone. But what it did do is prove that they were right all along.

North Korea have got bored obviously, they haven't been in the news for a whole week!

Crisis averted!