OANST, I was providing my opinion on the matter concerning sex between two minors. I never mentioned sex with adults. Perhaps reading glasses would help? Over here, it IS illegal for anyone under the age of 16 to have sex.

Alcar...

To tell you the truth, of that I wholeheartedly approve. If I were whoever issues laws on these matters, I would make it 18.

The reason why England has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe is because we have the highest cretin rates in Europe. I hate thing idiotic thing of "Oh, there's not enough education!" ...yes, yes there is. And anybody Evolved takes in this education and DOESN'T bend to peer pressure.

Alas, we have the lesser Evolved scum that are in the majority, meaning more scum being born, meaning more problems down the line.

Not only that, but because our Government is screwing up the Immigration problem, we have the Slag-Scum that'd normally be left devoid of child, getting with desperate Browns and having mixed-race children.

Ugh.

If i EVER get into power, a lot of heads will roll.

I love the wanton elitism that swamps this country. :) Thankfully, you won't ever get into power.

I find it extremely hard to believe that if two 15 year olds have sex that there is going to be prosecution. But who knows. I could be wrong.

And yeah, Jacob sucks. That kid will say the absolute dumbest things and walk away thinking he just owned everyone in the room.

Ehh, pretty gross. I don't really see them as pedophiles, I think I can see their motives, I think this is their way of trying to kind of bring balance to the taboo on sex and the slutty society we live in. But christ, sex ed in kindergarten and lowering the consent age to twelve? You need to draw the line at some point.

They are pedophiles. In fact, their being sponsored by 'The Association for the Rights of Pedophiles'. Yea... we actualy have a group like that over here. I know, it's very scary.

Well, I don't know what its like over there, but here, there only ever seems to be two parties with any chance of getting in. Small extreme parties like that would have no chance over here.

Like wise over here in Mirka. They can create as many sub parties as they want, but all it will do is take a tiny amount of votes from either the ol' Democrats and Republicans.

Underage sex is an irrelevant law. What kind of charges are you going to press on two thirteen year olds for rooting? All you can really do is give them counselling, and for what? Expressing there sexual attraction to eachother?

And Alcar I read this little book once. Anyone bettween 12-18 can have sex with eachother. As long as they're two years apart.

Over here I think the law is something along the lines of no age of consent for boys, but girls have to be 16. I also think that if two 14 year olds have sex it's fine but the girl has the power to at anytime say that it was rape and the boy will be done for it.

Eek, I just found out that one of the founders of the party lives in a neighbouring town/city...

Pay them a little visit...
Butt seriously, I always thought even if you were under the age of 16 you could still have sex if they are not over 18. In Australia anyway. Heaps of people at our school (well the ones who aren't bullshitting) have had sex and they're under the age of 18.

Statutory rape laws are, in some cases, very stupid.
Rape charges are bandied about too quick nowadays. Even if it is proven to not be true the guy's life is ruined because girls never lie, especially about sex and relationships.
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!

Yup, thats why you need to be carefull who to f*ck with (pub intended! MWUHA!).

Those laws are retarded, if people are that desperate to see naked kids and stuff they should get a magical invention called the internet! And errr, stop stereo-typing 13 year-olds. I'm 13 myself, know allot of stuff about sex and stuff but would never dream of doing sexual stuff with someone till I was actually old enough and actually liked someone enough. You get the retarded ones who smoke, drink and other things, but don't call of us stupid.

"I love the wanton elitism that swamps this country."

It's not Elitism. I just don't think people who don't deserve children should have them - look what's happening to our country now that they're having children.

"That kid will say the absolute dumbest things and walk away thinking he just owned everyone in the room."

Yeh. 'cos that's exactly what just happened.

*Coughs*

Ok being a parent and reading all of this I'd like to say there are many good points here.

I really think, in my opinion, that 16 is the right age for the age limit. You are old enough to know what sex is and old enough to grasp the concept of some sort of responsibility. People will have sex when they decide to whether they are educated enough or not. Be it 10, 12, 14 or later it's that persons choice (assuming it's consentual) so I really don't think it would matter much anyway.
I don't think the laws mentioned upon the opening of this topic should be passed. That just seems very scary and icky. They sound like a bunch of dirty, vile and disgusting old horny men.

Ya know, sometimes the things you say are very irritating but most of the time you can be quite amusing.

Okay.

No.1 Don't double post

No.2 Don't plagiarize my posts.

Thank you.

I know. It's awful. I hate the way these silly ****wits sit at home claiming £50,000 in benefits for their 12 multicoloured kids, each of whom was conceived 'wiv sum bloke but i can't remember which one.'

I just feel like saying 'GET OFF OF YOUR ARSE AND WORK GODDAMIT!'

Really! You've met these people, then? You personally know a family like that? You aren't just spouting a bigots stereotype?

Even if you tell me that you do know someone like this I'm not going to believe you. Your post is far to ignorant to have any basis in your own reality.

I don't see the big deal about stopping people with no respect for themselves or others around them from having children. Would you allow two addicts to have children? Two child molesters? No.

Of course, Soulstice is giving an extreme example, but there are people like that, and they are the core cause for our society being the way it is.

Sterilisation, National Service and severer punishments should all be brought into this country for at least 30 years or so to purge societies stomach.

Okay, Jake. I see where you're coming from. And it disgusts me. You do know that you aren't the first to have these thoughts, right? There was this small group of extremists in Germany once. What were they called? THE NAZIS! Freedom means a lot of things, little boy. Many of them good. Many of them bad. But you have to accept the good with the bad if you want to be free. You can't punish people because they aren't as intelligent as you are. And if you were half as intelligent as you think you are you would know that.

Shut up, your conviction has no basis you moron.

You're talking out of your arse, little boy. You think some people have the right to sit at home and claim taxpayer's money just because it's 'freedom?' Sorry, those pieces of crap have absolutely NO right to any of my or anybody else's hard-earned cash.

Considering you don't even live here, I'm going to disregard everything you just posted.

Simple.

Okay, bitch. Here we go.

No.1 Do you honestly think that these problems occur only in Britain? You don't maybe think there are people in America living off of Wellfare as well? I have no problem with intelligent debate about how we can get the downtrodden (and also the lazy) off of relying on my (or your) taxes. There is nothing wrong with that. But you singled out minorities like the little jackass that you are. I do have a problem with that.

No.2 My response to Jakey poo where I spoke about freedom had nothing to do with his stance on tax dollars going to the undeserving. It had to do with his solutions. Sterilization is not a thinking persons solution. It is a hatefull bigots solution. And since I already think you're a bigot your defense of his post does not surprise me.

Oh woe to you were you to be born brown. You hatefull little cocksucker.

By resorting to using derogatory terms, you've degraded your whole post and shown yourself to be an idiot.

Well done on that!

Aaah! The irony!

Please save me. I'm in stitches already.

Okay, big boy. Show me a part of my post where I singled out a minority. Go on, show me something.

Clever boy!

Gosh, what a slap in the face. I'm insulted...
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Do you think it bothers me that you think I'm a bigot. Maybe to you, I am. But I remember mentioning earlier you had issues with your moronic convictions anyway.

Sorry darling, but calling me a bigot won't hurt me. It doesn't even insult me.


What exactly do you mean by that?
1) Does anybody else detect racist undertones in this badly executed pseudo-sophisticated phrase. May I even mention. B-b-b-b-BIGOTRY!

*Gasp* For shame!

2) Once again, you've shown yourself up to be a fool. Why is it that I can quite easily post without using such foul terms as 'cocksucker,' whilst you pretend to have an 'intelligent debate' but resort to derogatory street language?

Maybe it's the Detroit...

There you go fucksnuff.

I think anyone reading these posts can come to their own conclusions. I think I've proven my point. And what might that be?

YOU SUCK!

LOL OMFG!!!

Since when did multicoloured become a minority, idiot?

Yeah, because I'm sure on the census forms, somewhere between race and socio-economic grouping there's a little box to tick next to 'multicoloured.'

Gosh, maybe there's an option for striped people too!

LOL. This is too funny. You really are that stupid.

"I think anyone reading these posts can come to their own conclusions. I think I've proven my point. And what might that be?"

Why are you asking a question? Idiot.

Well then, let's see what the other members say.

Question to all reading this: Who conveyed their points more effectively?
Me or OANST?


Oh, and thanks for waving the white flag. Ending with 'YOU SUCK!' is as good as. Classic 'I can't counteract.'

Proven your point? Ha! More like proven your stupidity.

I feel sorry for you.

Look again at what I put in bold print. I'm pretty sure everyone sees that you're just grasping at straws at this point. You're wrong. Own it. Be a man.

Urgh... Soulstice, you do seem a bit desperate to prove your point... But really. I don't see where you're going with it. It doesn't make sence :S

Yes darling. I'm sure they can.

"You're wrong"

There we go again with the moronic conviction. As a psychology student, I'm starting to notice things. Things that point to 'self-fulfilling prophecy.'

"Own it."

Oh, improper my dear.

"Be a man."

This comes from the person that uses terms such as 'hateful little cocksucker' and '****snuff' (is that even a word?)

Astounded.

Desperate? Actually more like calm and collected. Maybe you and OANST share a similar sense of conviction. *Tsk tsk*

Maybe if you'd read my previous posts you'd be able to grab the real essence of what I'm trying to say. Ah well. Maybe it's still 'two peas in a pod' this time. *Sigh*

Look. I'm sorry if you have a distorted view of the world that hinges on your superiority. I'm sorry you suck. But I didn't make you suck. Don't get so upset at me. I'm trying to help you to stop sucking by pointing out that making a statement about how multicolored people are a drag on society is not exactly enlightened. So put that psychology class to good use and discover at what point you forgot how to perceive correctly. Maybe it's when I raped your mom.

I second T-nex. Soulstice, stop arguing over nothing. You've lost the entire concept of this argument. You must be fucking stupid to think you're getting anywhere by chipping down every one of oanst's posts and reply to it in an annoyingly sanctimonious way. In other words, shut up.

Oh my god.

Are you for real?

Superiority complex? And you're the one that swears at me and tells me I suck.

Pot's calling the kettle black. It really is.

I never said multicoloured people were a drag on society. I said that the irresponsible people sitting at home claiming benefits are.

Can't you read, you silly boy?

Put that psychology class to good use? I already have, genius. And it shows.

"Maybe it's when I raped your mom."

I've just realised how immature you actually are.

You're 25 for god's sake. And you still resort to childish high school 'your mum' insults. I can't believe how stupid you are.

It says on your profile that you're a 'musician' and a 'father.'

Well, you're 25, and you're a father, and you use 'your mum' tactics.

Bravo. Well done! You are...amazing. A real example to follow. *Applause from the audience please*

What kind of depraved individual are you?

Then again, maybe it's the Detroit.

Well, I'm glad you're in favour of somebody who posted that they 'raped my mother.'

And I'm the, I quote '****ing stupid one.'

Wow. Just, wow.

"There was this small group of extremists in Germany once. What were they called? THE NAZIS!"

Ugh. This point is brought up so many times. "That can't be a good idea!! 'cos...'cos...'cos the Nazis had the SAME idea!!" And? Could it not be possible that, that was one of the things the Nazis had hit the nail on the head with? Why is riddling out the undesirables of our society wrong?

Maybe i wouldn't riddle out the lazy - i'd just throw them into the National Service. But serial offenders would and should be sterilised.

Scientists are currently trying to figure out what makes people "bad". They're trying to find the "bad" gene. Now, why do you think they want to do that? ...so they can cure it, if not bring up the debate of "Should people with the 'bad' gene have children?"

In England, crime rates are soaring and our prisons are like Holiday camps. Now, we could always build more prisons, yes. And that could also be a solution, but i also thing sterilisation is another. If a house had a Rat infestation what would you do? Kill them. Now, we can't go around killing people willy-nilly, but why can't we just stop the trouble makers from having children?

People say my views are 'Draconian' and go against 'Human Rights'. But, the way i see it, the ends justify the means and this is definitely the lesser of two evils.

They say England is behind America by 20 years. ...which i'm starting to realise is definitely the case. And the last thing i want is for England to become the new state of America.

It'd be such a sad state of affairs if that were the case.

"Oh woe to you were you to be born brown."

Don't bring race into it, until it's actually brought up to be an issue.

Oh, and OANST, you're a Father right? Grow up and start acting like one a son/daughter can be proud of.

pots called the kettle black? You fucking bastard. How dare you make racial slurs in here. And as for the the multicolored people you didn't say per se that they were a drag on society. You just said that the fucktwats who drain you're society were multicolored. Maybe I read too much into that.

But hey. I don't wanna fight. After all we are family.

It's called figurative speech. Have you ever studied English? Do an A-Level in it and come back to me.


Erm, no I didn't. I KNOW that my post was referring to the irresponsible parents, not the kids. Kids can't fill out dole forms, genius.

The conviction. Again.

I'm gonna double post here. At least Jacob has the balls to stand up and admit that he has these ideas. I can at least somewhat respect that. Although, I still say you're an ignorant piece of shit, Jake. Just my opinion. But soulstice is such a snivelling little bitch tht he would rather discuss the tone of my voice and the fact that I used (oh my holy fucking god) profanity then admit that he agrees with nazis.

Jacob- The laws that you would like to put into effect would have disastrous effect on your society. This is because people get carried away. The downtrodden of your country would be afraid to ever speak up because they would know that if they were arrested and went to court the judge would have the ability to castrate them.

Hare. Hunter. Field. Until you know the significance of those three words you should never spout you vile beliefs on castration again.

Soulstice- What can I say. You suck.


and of course I know the figure of speech jackass. It was a joke.

Not to mention every other non Aryan race, nothing wrong with that either, right? Sorry to attck you out of context, but I just found what you said there to be pretty dumb.

Erm, when did I ever pretend to be averse to my ideas.
I didn't and I wholly still believe in them.

You're just too much of a dunce to know good argument skills.

Snivelling little bitch? Oh, you do me too much honour.
Can I get a tiara with that?

Tone of your voice? I can't hear you over forums dear. Unless you've somehow been communicating with me via your voice in some ultra high-tech medium.

Have you?

And if I suck, you must be a bloody Dyson vacuum.