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Xavier 06-14-2006 11:26 PM

according to an old version of oddworld.com
http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/toa/Oddcom/char.htm

Abe's height is 5'8"

magic9mushroom 06-14-2006 11:34 PM

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according to an old version of oddworld.com
http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/toa/Oddcom/char.htm

Abe's height is 5'8"

And the planet's mass? Doesn't sound like the sort that'd be on the site

used:) 06-15-2006 10:08 AM

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It wouldn't be compressed, plus Oddworld tech is more advanced than ours, the computer chip would take up like 1% of the space

We don't know that though. And besides the chip, you would need the shocker which would take up about a third of the space. Then you would need the optical sensers which take up about a fourth of the space. All of this composed of heavy metal, I don't think helium would do the trick.

Bullet Magnet 06-17-2006 02:20 PM

An antigravity generator or a repulsorlift coil? I heard on theory that there was an anigravity ore used in the orbs, and also reduced the gravitational force of Oddworld at the surface down to Earth-normal. It is a big planet, after all, and gravity should be a problem.

Shadiela 06-17-2006 04:27 PM

More gravitational force could explain why abe dies in AO and AE from falls that don't look too dangerous to us. Since the gravity would be making abe land with more force than we think.This is not counting MO since they all seem invincable (sp?) to long falls now :rolleyes: unless it's a cliff with fog around it.

used:) 06-17-2006 05:09 PM

Those falls don't look too dangerous to us from the angle we look from. We would die as well if we fell from such heights.

skillya_glowi 06-18-2006 09:44 AM

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More gravitational force could explain why abe dies in AO and AE from falls that don't look too dangerous to us.

Don't look too dangerous to us? Dude, when's the last time you fell off a twenty-foot cliff?

Bullet Magnet 06-19-2006 02:15 AM

I fell of a fifteen foot cliff once. Luckily the bottom was soft sand and the base sloped away, but it hurt. Then I did it again in Austria, I was on a sledge, and my friend steering at the back lost control. He jumped ship, but I was tangled in the reigns. I went flying off the edge of this 20 foot vertical egde, dropped ten, then got stuck in a tree. Banged my head, too, my mate was crying, he'd thought he'd killed me. As far as I know, that tobogon is still there.

Hmm. 'S a bit off topic. Abe would die from those heights, or at least break his leg, which in the game is as good as dying. Those first couple of games were quite realistic in terms of what would kill you.

Xavier 06-19-2006 08:49 AM

MO being in 3D and being a platform game it is easier to fall from too high.
so they made Abe absurdly more bouncy then before, they say it's a side effect of the spooce ;)

skillya_glowi 06-19-2006 10:04 AM

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I fell of a fifteen foot cliff once. Luckily the bottom was soft sand and the base sloped away, but it hurt. Then I did it again in Austria, I was on a sledge, and my friend steering at the back lost control. He jumped ship, but I was tangled in the reigns. I went flying off the edge of this 20 foot vertical egde, dropped ten, then got stuck in a tree. Banged my head, too, my mate was crying, he'd thought he'd killed me. As far as I know, that tobogon is still there.

Hmm. 'S a bit off topic. Abe would die from those heights, or at least break his leg, which in the game is as good as dying. Those first couple of games were quite realistic in terms of what would kill you.

And on some cliffs, you can't even see the bottom. That would be dangerous. What if there were, like, sharp rocks there?

Spirrow 06-19-2006 06:18 PM

You fall down a dark alley cliff on Oddworld, next thing you know you're being chewed on by some creature or another or you end up impaling
yourself on some pikes that are used as hunting traps. Besides that,
might as well jump off any other cliff and smash your body open.

Bullet Magnet 06-20-2006 11:45 AM

"Look before you leap" as they say. Unless your eyes are stitched shut, in which case I wouldn't advise leaping anywhere.

Spirrow 06-20-2006 12:15 PM

A great word of advice to America's few idiots who are more than
happy to jump off cliffs and high ledges for belief that's their one-way
ticket to heaven, Bullet Magnet.

Bullet Magnet 06-21-2006 02:00 AM

My legacy to the world. Now all those idiots will survive and breed, spreading their...

Oh, dear God! No!

E'l Scrabino 06-21-2006 02:06 AM

Now you've dunnit!

Spirrow 06-22-2006 06:58 AM

Shall I back you up, Bullet Magnet?

My legacy to the world. Now all those idiots will survive and breed, spreading their stupidity and turning this " once so beautiful" land into a pit of
hell inhabited by little vultures picking off the remains of a dead past
dimension of smart, independant creatures.

One day a terrible fate if this shall continue forth will meet the deadliest creature on earth, man. But let us pray to enjoy and embrace one
more day of wisdom and power. Amen.

So therefore keep watching the skies.

Thank you,
Bullet magnet,

Wil 06-22-2006 11:37 AM

Enough off-topic, thank you.

skillya_glowi 06-22-2006 02:47 PM

Don't look at me. Anyhoo...From all this we must conclude that the gravity, for some reason, is the same as earth. However, it is kind of strange to see Abe fall off a 15-foot drop in the Paramonian Temple and get smashed to a pulp, but then in the industrial areas, fall down a 15-foot drop and barely bend his knees (and metal is harder than wood or sandstone, as is common knowledge). Hmmm.

Bullet Magnet 06-25-2006 04:40 AM

What? In my experience if he falls down two normal sized levels, or one screen, he always dies unless there is a well underneath. One of only a few exceptions is that place in paramonia where you have to deal with those trap doors and the well to get a password tune from a rock. And there was a mine.

skillya_glowi 06-25-2006 01:05 PM

One level is about twenty feet. If Abe is about six feet and four of him goes into the length of the screen (not counting the space under the walkway), then it's about 23 feet. And remember that time in Zulag 3 in the leftmost door where he fell across a whole screen and lived?

Also about the wells: I agreed with the suction theory at first, but I see a flaw. What about 2-way wells? If Abe comes out of a well with suction, well, that's all right, but if he wants to go back in, the air has to blow in a different direction all of a sudden.

Slaveless 06-25-2006 01:43 PM

Skillya_Glowi, I would have to disagree on your theory on the height of the levels. They are probably around 15'. You just have to measure them by Mudokons. Plus, there is a difference when you fall on your feet, then when you fall on your head.

In my new theory, I believe that Mudokons have engineered wells. They seem to be related to metal and turned almost mechnically. They might be based off of plants, but it doesn't seem natural for the wells to be activated by switches to me. But I do believe that they have high air pressure idea now. It seems like one of the only ways that doesn't have a flaw.

skillya_glowi 06-25-2006 08:12 PM

I did measure them in Mudokons.

As for the well idea, I agree.

magic9mushroom 06-30-2006 12:39 AM

(To used) Okay fine hydrogen then, that would explain why they blow up. And Oddworld's atmosphere is probably a LOT thicker than ours. Amd maybe, just maybe, Oddworld has large gas pockets in its core which would decrease its mass and gravity

used:) 06-30-2006 06:26 AM

Again, I doubt it, the gravitational forces of a planet like Oddworld would force the gas out. All of the lightest substances are always further and further away from the core.

magic9mushroom 07-04-2006 07:54 PM

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Again, I doubt it, the gravitational forces of a planet like Oddworld would force the gas out. All of the lightest substances are always further and further away from the core.

Okay I stuffed up but Mars, for example, is a lot less dense than Earth. Oddworld could also be.

used:) 07-04-2006 08:10 PM

Mars is also one third the size of Earth.

And based off the heavy dependence on metal for the contruction of industrial facilities, I would say Oddworld has a global amount of iron relative to Earth's.