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skillya_glowi 05-02-2006 09:45 AM

A flashback's not a bad idea. I hear OWI are producing a movie, they could stick it in there.

Xavier 05-02-2006 10:11 AM

in any game
just not after AO in the timeline

magic9mushroom 05-02-2006 03:32 PM

There could be some in a zoo

used:) 05-02-2006 04:35 PM

No, if Meeches are extinct, that means there aren't any left on the planet. No one single Meech, not even in a zoo. But who knows.

tentacle_orgy 05-02-2006 08:25 PM

Well, you know, they said the coelocanth was extinct, and, whaddya know! Look in any decent animal encyclopedia and you'll see a nice colorful picture of the ugly bugger...
So, just because they say the meech is dead doesn't mean it is...besides, wouldn't it be awesome symbolism if there were sightings of a Meech in the Oddworld storyline? Y'know, Nature triumphing over Industry and all that shit.

Nate 05-02-2006 09:05 PM

No, because as we've been saying all along; even if it's plausible that there may be a few meeches wandering about, it would destroy the symbolism of their extinction in the first place.

Xavier 05-02-2006 11:58 PM

yep the creature was designed to be extinct, leave it this way

magic9mushroom 05-03-2006 03:54 PM

Extinct usually means extinct in the wild- there are quite a few Earthly animals that live only in captivity. So there could be some in a zoo- but the Glukkons probably don't have zoos since they hate native animals. There might be Vykker zoos though

used:) 05-03-2006 05:25 PM

No, for the last time, extinct means there aren't any left. No zoos, no pets, nothing, they are gone.

Sekto Springs 05-03-2006 05:30 PM

Used, you're full of it, I saw a T-rex in the zoo just yesterday!

Glukinator 05-03-2006 05:33 PM

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No, for the last time, extinct means there aren't any left. No zoos, no pets, nothing, they are gone.

I know they think meeches are extinct, but their could be meeches that they never found.

magic9mushroom 05-03-2006 11:55 PM

Go look up some conservation site used

Xavier 05-04-2006 02:25 AM

Vykkers could have kept some indeed:
http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/togg/...=CAMO0054.jpg2

but I'm not sure they are still alive
plus Vykkers don't respect nearly extinct spiecies , look what they did to Munch

Ninjaxe 05-04-2006 06:24 AM

w-wow Xav! it could be a possible that they are clonning them. Remember Vykkers tend to auction things. Moolah!!!

More moolah, I think they are more alive than dead. If something is left extinct and they have it stored. vykkers are clever enough to know to keep it alive. The real question is: Alive or dead why dont the Glukkons (especially mullock) know about it?

Glukinator 05-04-2006 12:53 PM

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w-wow Xav! it could be a possible that they are clonning them. Remember Vykkers tend to auction things. Moolah!!!

More moolah, I think they are more alive than dead. If something is left extinct and they have it stored. vykkers are clever enough to know to keep it alive. The real question is: Alive or dead why dont the Glukkons (especially mullock) know about it?

Maby it's a secret agency like area 51, but in Oddworld. And Mullock just runs a meat factory. He wouldn't be informed anyway.

OANST 05-04-2006 01:02 PM

Or maybe not.

used:) 05-04-2006 01:55 PM

Lol, that's exactly what I was thinking.

Slaveless 05-04-2006 04:11 PM

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The real question is: Alive or dead why dont the Glukkons (especially mullock) know about it?

Why? Because, once they buy them, you kill them. Besides, I doubt it's possible to clone a clone. Meeches will die eventually, completely fully, because all they have are unreproducable, cloned by fossils, Meeches. Meeches have no future.

Plus, I think the Meech thing in the tank looks a little more like Scrab, in my opinion.

magic9mushroom 05-04-2006 08:04 PM

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Why? Because, once they buy them, you kill them. Besides, I doubt it's possible to clone a clone. Meeches will die eventually, completely fully, because all they have are unreproducable, cloned by fossils, Meeches. Meeches have no future.

Plus, I think the Meech thing in the tank looks a little more like Scrab, in my opinion.

Yeah the Vykkers don't really give a damn about Glukkons and they might want as many as possible ASAP so they could make some kind of medicine or use them for something.

used:) 05-04-2006 08:07 PM

Or maybe not. I am pretty sure they would sell the remaining Meeches in a heart beat, classic products are always valuable, look at Gabiar.

magic9mushroom 05-04-2006 08:13 PM

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Or maybe not. I am pretty sure they would sell the remaining Meeches in a heart beat, classic products are always valuable, look at Gabiar.

But they would keep the blueprint DNA so they could do it again
GAME IDEA: Bring Meeches back from extinction by getting the blueprint and making clones!

used:) 05-04-2006 08:14 PM

I don't think even the Vykkers have that technology discoverd yet. And I doubt they would want to. Vykkers come off me like the kind of race that likes to destroy, not create, not even for profit.

magic9mushroom 05-04-2006 08:16 PM

The Vykkers have the technology to connect brains to computers, but not to clone? I don't think so.

used:) 05-04-2006 08:18 PM

And your references are?

magic9mushroom 05-04-2006 08:21 PM

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And your references are?

MO Munch's sonar

used:) 05-05-2006 04:17 AM

I was referring to cloning technology.

Ninjaxe 05-05-2006 11:19 AM

they way this is sounding is that the vykkers are like the nazi -germans in the boot camps like bahaus, horwitz and woteva. Probably all wrong spelling but you know what I mean.

The times when they killed over millions of jews to discover the ways of the human body. They made things that we have a clear understanding of there is today.

I am trying to put across is to evolve and gain technolgy is to destroy something. War is a part of evoltion

used:) 05-05-2006 12:11 PM

The Vykkers were partly inspired form the Nazi Scientists like Joseph Mengele.

Munch's Master 05-05-2006 12:33 PM

I don't think Vykekrs could clone meeches. To replicate the DNA and make a deady Meech body is one thing, but to actually give it life is another. If they took elements of Mudokon technology-the Ressurection Totems, and added it to some sort of cloning system to copy out the DNA and form Meech flbodies, which would then be brought to life by the Totems' spooce they could have living Meeches, but as Slaveless said, they'd eventually die out through mutations from inbreeding, or due to Industrialist greed. Vykkers and Gluks strike me mroe as the 'fast cash' type of industrilists than ones who conserve methods of making money. Gabbits and Meeches are the perfect example.
And, looking at that picutere of the tanks in the Lab, I didn't see anything Meech-like. I saw ythings that looked like monster seahorses, mutant gabbits, normal gabbits and (Most unusually) a Drakkic from S'laskia's fanfiction, but I saw no meechlike creatures.

Ninjaxe 05-05-2006 02:07 PM

Thats where all the gabbits gone? So Munch's Master, that brings me to ask why haven't Lady margaret demanded a lung if they all so neatly preserved. why go for all that the hassle if they have it. Offering double and triple reward.

For arguement sake I don't think they are gabbits. I not trying to put you down on your assumption. I think they are something else.

Zerox 05-08-2006 08:30 AM

Well, I agree mostly, with the whole 'Meech's stay dead but should be in pre-AO game' thing, maybe in a more 'native' game when industrialism is just beggining.
I think Vykkers cloning Meech's (or other life, maybe altered and mutated into a new species) is relatively plausible. Some creatures in this picture you can't see what they are clearly, ut if there's a Meech there, they have the DNA. And cloning can only create 'living' creatures, at least at fist, as it involves the creature growing like it was in the womb (or whatever), but it's in a machine instead. I can in this picture see at least Gabbits as recognisable creatures. Also, young (unborn) Scrab's and Mudokons (With the long tails, they must be like that before they're born, the top body looks like Mudokon)
http://www.oddworld.au.com/universe/...s/vykker05.jpg
I can also see a podgy thing to the left and two rather stick like creatures, sor of like embryonic Glukkons with long legs (thats what I thought when I saw them, anyway)

Nate 05-08-2006 11:33 PM

That image always reminded me of the scene in the fourth (I think) Aliens movie, where Ripley goes into the cloning lab and sees a series of distorted, mutated versions - all the failed clones that didn't survive.

Zerox 05-09-2006 01:44 AM

Oops, didn't see Munch Master's post there referring to this image. But still, this image oinly really represents a small area, and if they have a Meech, it would probably be kept better and better preserved, since it is endangered (I presume, there was that 'Southern Meech diet' thing somewhere) and therefore more valuable, while Scarbs and particularly Mudokons are far more common. But then again, there's Gabbits in there.

Spirrow 05-09-2006 11:41 AM

The best meech image I ever saw was on billboards at Rupture Farms.
Animated and covered with paint. Not a good example of seeing one.

Xavier 05-09-2006 12:29 PM

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The best meech image I ever saw was on billboards at Rupture Farms.
Animated and covered with paint. Not a good example of seeing one.

well there's also this image:
http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/togg/...=CAAO0137.jpg5

Glukinator 05-09-2006 12:51 PM

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Well, I agree mostly, with the whole 'Meech's stay dead but should be in pre-AO game' thing, maybe in a more 'native' game when industrialism is just beggining.
I think Vykkers cloning Meech's (or other life, maybe altered and mutated into a new species) is relatively plausible. Some creatures in this picture you can't see what they are clearly, ut if there's a Meech there, they have the DNA. And cloning can only create 'living' creatures, at least at fist, as it involves the creature growing like it was in the womb (or whatever), but it's in a machine instead. I can in this picture see at least Gabbits as recognisable creatures. Also, young (unborn) Scrab's and Mudokons (With the long tails, they must be like that before they're born, the top body looks like Mudokon)
http://www.oddworld.au.com/universe/...s/vykker05.jpg
I can also see a podgy thing to the left and two rather stick like creatures, sor of like embryonic Glukkons with long legs (thats what I thought when I saw them, anyway)

It looks like there's only gabbits in the picture.

Xavier 05-09-2006 01:02 PM

well maybe, but no...
there are also other creatures we never saw somewhere else

Munch's Master 05-10-2006 10:54 AM

To Ninjaxe, I said it looked like a Gabbit and to be honest, it does. Look at the one directly above the Vykker's head on the left side. You must admit, it looks like a gabbit (Although on closer inspection I have noticed the head is slightly wrong). I don't think it is a gabbit, I just said it looked like one. And if it is a gabbit somehow (Which as I've said before, I don't think it is), then maybe its a secret supply of Gabbits that the Vykkers were using for their own gain. But anyway, I definitely don't see anything like a Meech.

Zerox 05-11-2006 03:08 AM

If its not a Gabbit, I reckon its a very closely related subspecies. Otherwise, its a Gabbit with a squished head. I reckon it is a Gabbit, its either the angle of the head or maybe the liquid bending the light.

Ninjaxe 05-11-2006 06:33 AM

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To Ninjaxe, I said it looked like a Gabbit and to be honest, it does. Look at the one directly above the Vykker's head on the left side. You must admit, it looks like a gabbit (Although on closer inspection I have noticed the head is slightly wrong). I don't think it is a gabbit, I just said it looked like one. And if it is a gabbit somehow (Which as I've said before, I don't think it is), then maybe its a secret supply of Gabbits that the Vykkers were using for their own gain. But anyway, I definitely don't see anything like a Meech.


Yup cant dely that it does look like gabbit due to its one leg. I am thinking on the lines of stargate. That they are vykkers/interns in those cells. But some people argue that cloning is not possible. The theory is this. Asgard (grey alien species from stargate) can sustain themselves by reproducing so they clone themselves. I think that it be huge possiblity that they are cloning interns and to further their research they are fusing them with the gabbit lungs so they can amphi-amphi- ampffi -ians.

Unless somone >.< cringed to look a Lorne says otherwise. (Might get a slap for confusing oddworld fans)