Abe and the other mudokons are sexless? Why are they wearing loincloths? :crafty: What are they hiding?

Mudokons have some sense of decency.

I'll let Max handle this one. :dodgy:

It's okay, mate! :D
I just wanted to tease you with these questions :lol: Don't dismiss me.

For reasons best left to Lorne and the designers, Abe and his sexless buddies are fully equipped with the tender bodybits necessary to project waste cleanly. That's the only way I could describe it without sniggering…

Give me a roaring Steef any day of the week.

In short, SM, they have dangly parts.

Stop looking at my Oddamn waste release valves!

No, OANST, you're too sexy.

No, that's not quite right. Sam needs hundreds of mudokon drones to keep her vag shooting out all those little green men.

Yes, but I wasn't counting them. You're supposed to be able to read my mind, people!

If it has to be anyone it has to be Abe has started it all and he rocks so I would like to see him in another game. :D

I'm tired of Abe. He's cool, but I think his ship has sailed until we see him inevitabely paired up with Munch again.

I like Munch to so I guess Abe and Munch paired would actually be kinda cool maybe you could choose which char to be and the other just be AI(kinda like Sonic 2 + 3 for Sega) or if you have a friend round he can be the other char, Infact that would kinda rock.

You sound as if they've never been paired up before.

I know "Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee" but still I felt like saying it because what I mean't was it would be kinda cool for a newer system I know I said it like it has never happened before but I just got overexcited over something that will probaly not happen.

Industrial Character ftw!

I think OWI's next move in games should be trying to combine the lush spiritual native feeling of AO with the exciting and immersive industrial atmosphere of AE and not let it turn out as a dud like MO.

To be honest I think it would be awsome to be able to play as a Glukkon or a Slig fighting the system. It would also push the storyline a good step ahead to where it needs to be.

I mulled around the same concept before. I would sketch FPS scenes of gameplay in my mind where you pilot a big bro armed with a Blitzpacker as you knock the fudge out of other sligs.

You know what would be a neat idea? Other than a waffle-iron and a mail-sorter combined in one? If you were a member of some secret industrial rebellion society. It would be reminiscent of the MO promo video with the possessed BB; chuckin' Soulstorm grenades and deflecting enemy fire with your automatic, arm-mounted shield. Wander dark industrial hallways littered with vendos, receive commands from the rebel leader (which would likely be a rogue glukkon that appears on the tactical device on your arm).

*ponders*

Ah yes, wonderful thoughts. A man can dream, a man can dream...

I will add my vote to this, all of the characters would be alright to see in newer games, except.... the game play should not be like it is in Strangers Wrath. I mean the game feels more like an extended version of a sidequest that an actual OddWorld game. Just running around shooting up and capturing what-not was pretty boring. Where is the puzzles and other that the first 3 games had incorporated in the game play. The graphics is pretty good, but the game play is pretty boring unless you like Doom and other shoot-em up games. For a RPGer like me, I found the game to be disappointing and felt I wasted my money on the game when I was expecting a game continuing like the first three. Is there anyone else out there that feels this way.
daljaxon

I agree but with the part about the puzzels, there aren't enoughpuzzels you have to solve like in MO, but I liked capturing bounties, i thought it was fun, but not as fun as AE.

I didn't check back in this thread for a while, so to clear things up:

By "hairy egg machine" I was referring to the queens, who are largly imobile, as far as I can tell. I also think that the Maggie in the art book is the definitive one at this stage.

I personally would welcome a female character, but of who we've seen so far I would only play as the Grubb chieftess.

The Mudokon, slig and Glukkon reproductive systems seem to be based upon ant, termite, bee etc reproductive systems. However, in insects all the workers are sexually undeveloped females, whereas on Oddworls they appear to be male. In insects many queens are fertilised only once to produce all the workers, or unfertile eggs produce workers and fertile ones produce queens and drones/vice versa. A colony is more like a single oranism, where the queen takes the place of the brain, mitosis and reproduction, and the workers and soldiers- you get the idea.

Which makes me wonder about the purpose of Mudokon villages that don't have a queen. How do they support the village in the long run? I'll leave you to answer that one.

I think that Jo' Momma is some kind of queen to, if you listen to the chatter in SW.

But this link with insect colonies provides an interesting storyline opportunity to exploit in the future: Anarchy in the hive. Sometimes in bees and similar insects, a hormonal imbalance in the general populace can leave workers laying eggs everywhere and trying to start new colonies. Such nests are usually destined to die, but it would be interesting if that were to happen in Oddworld. But, being males, that may well just lead to a bunch of sligs humping everything, depending on the writer's interest.

And in terms of future gameplay, we need one that creates a massive free roaming environment that is semi-sand box. I bet you all know games like that. But imagine if it were Oddworld... Or we could just have a sort of Oddworld MMORPG with some storyline. That would cirtainly drag OWF out of these so called "dark times".

Now if this post doesn't give you bums something to talk about I don't know what will.

Nice you managed to clear things up, it looks like you missed lots.

P.S I don't really think Jo'momma is a queen, because why would a queen of outlaws be hiding in a wrecked ship and wearing god only knows what! She should be in a palace

P.P.S I do think a good semi-sandbox game would get the OWF out of these 'Dark Times' as you put it. Something like MO do you mean? Where you can search to find answers to problems, is that what you were talking about?
If it is,It would be good, and I think with the publicity OWI got out of SW because of it's publishers a new game could sell fast.
But as much as we want to see OWI back of it's feet in top form, i don't think that'll happen for some time. Mabey in a few years, but not right now.

Who would I like to see in the next game?

Definitely Abe. Probably Munch as well, though, as the next game should be Munch's Exoddus. Stranger hits me as a sort of one-shot story kinda guy, although they may tie in referances and locals and such later.

I thought Jo'Momma could be a queen in that she breeds alot. But who knows? Maybe Oddworldians become queens, breed, then shrink down later into normal sized female characters.

Hell, I'd like to see all, but mostly Stranger.
Ever since I finished the game, I felt annoyed.
How could Lorne just leave it like that?
That's why I want to see him more in the hopefully-next game.

To be honest you could be right, i just thought it was a bit farfetched that an outlaw queen that must have a lot 'o' loot would be hiding in a shipwreck.
But you make a good point.

Outlaws don't have to have a queen, they coud have a "human-like" reproduction system

That would explain a lot, so are you saying that there are male and female outlaws, and the male's go out to rob like a whislt the female's sit at home and count the loot. Is that what you're saying?

Ah. A male feminist. A rare specimen indeed.

Perhaps the males outnumer the females, who are longer lived or something. Perhaps the Outlaws are mostly half brothers.

But that only applies to the tusked hunchbacked outlaws. There's also the orange hunchbacks, the big-eared yellowheads, and the hammerjaw outlaws like Blisterz...

Who is the male feminist? me?

Perhaps the females are completly different to the male outlaws. Mabey they don't have big tusks and ugly features and perhaps Jo'momma grew irregular horns at young age and dedicated her life to crime. Or perhaps she a perfectly normal female outlaw.

And outlaws do come in many shapes and sizes

I guess she's the only one we saw because she has more caracter then the other ones...

actually Outlaws are a difficult species to understand fully, they have way too many forms

Jo' Mamma's incredible progeny suggests Outlaws might be a super species. Perhaps they are, but unlike Mudokons, Sligs and Glukkons, there are more than one queen.

Alternatively, Jo' Mamma's numerous offspring are a dig at trailer trash, which I think is more likely. I haven't heard of Blisterz and Boilz having any more brothers.

I always figured she was being metaphorical when she described her minions as her children. So they are like her sons but not biologically.

Have you ever considered that she may actually be a transvestite? She certainly isn't very feminine. Or perhaps outlaws don't have specific sexes (ie they may be hermaphroditic, or a superspecies where we are yet to see the queen) and individuals can choose whichever gender suits them.

You make a good point, but she comes across as female outlaw to me.

Yeah, she comes off as... well, just a white trash mamma. To be stereotypical, they aren't attractive and are masculine gun-toting cookies, as well as having a plethora of children.
From the exchanged dialogue I observed between Outlaws, they are in fact her sons, adopted or biological, but I doubt she means it as a metaphor. It's also evident due to the name similarities; Billy Bob, Billy Jack, Billy Joe, Billy Billy.

I can't remember what the names were, but i think it was boliz booty and blitz booty, but i'm not sure. That is a case of similar names, they're probably related or adopted or come from the same distric. Is that like the thing you're talking about?

No. Boilz and Blizters Booty are brothers, we know that. We're talking about another Outlaw named Jo' Mamma, who seems to be the only female outlaw, and are debating whether her minions are actually her sons or not.

I know, i was just asking if you were talking about outlaw relations, and now i know you were. Then Boliz and Blitz Booty are evidence that outlaws are related. But the question has many possible answers. So the answer can only really come from Lorne himself. But for me, i think the outlaws are either adopted or bought. Is it possible that there is some kind of outlaw trading market. Where you can buy and sell minions

But Boilz and Blisterz are a different species entirely from Jo' Mamma and her 'sons'.

Technically they can't really be her sons considering she's a horn-head outlaw while they're hump-backed outlaws, right?

I would like to see abe and munch meet up with stranger (just thinking here), but what if stranger went back to(not saying he left) bounty hunting and some glukkons hired him to capture abe and munch the "notorious" crimals behind vykker's labs, soulstorm and rupture farms. but then he finds out thier true intentions for their actions and joins them in the fight to free the inhabitants of oddworld.

That's right, every outlaw boss has minions and there are always the same hunched-backed outlaws that are the minions. So they're probable just bought.