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MojoMan220 07-07-2005 02:15 PM

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the only moron here is YOU!

Just because he's thinking in terms of a bigger picture, doesn't make him a moron.

Rich 07-07-2005 02:59 PM

I agree with Hobo. Yes, it is a tragedy but we're lucky to get away with it this lightly. And the attack was long anticipated and overdue considering what the peeps in the government have been saying.

The attacks on America were much worse.

big bro boogie 07-07-2005 03:36 PM

So many innocent deaths, dude. This ain't kidding.
Ofcourse, the earth is overpopulated, but killing people off straight away isn't gonna solve it.
Besides 33 people isn't a lot compared to the total amount of humans on earth.

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Americans have killed more men women and children in Iraq who were innocent. Where's the all day news report for them?

Bush is way to selfish to report them (yeah, as a lot of deaths). And he thinks of it as trying to cleanse the land from evil (and almost every innocent death wasn't innocent because of lots of people defending were their pride with spoons. If you get me.)

EDIT: WHOA 2 pages already???!

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But I only worry that Al Qaeda will try something else.

If Al Quaeda is going to strike again, most likely it would be Holland (though I don't hope it.) Or somewhere else in Europe.

Dark Elite_H2 07-07-2005 03:46 PM

Hobo, would you quit bein' an assh@%?! We are being considerate fer the people in London thay were attacked! Who gives a f#&% if it was 33 "measley" people that were killed! No matter how much the death count, it's bad! Doesn't matter if it's 100,000,000 people that were killed, it's bad! Now, quit actin' like you don't give a damn! If you want to continue, then go act like you don't give a f#%& SOMEWHERE ELSE! Thankyou fer your consideration, and the rest of you that agree with Hobo!

Jacob 07-07-2005 04:02 PM

If i was Laden i'd be pretty fudged off at the patheticness of this attack. 33 people dead. 90 injured. Hardly good statistics for a Terrorist. Plus, who the Hell puts a bomb on the second storey of a bus...AT THE BACK. Bizarre.

People keep bringing up this wouldn't have happened if we hadn't have gone into Iraq. I'm pretty sure it would've done. They're Islamic Fundamentalists and from what i gather they want the world to be all Islamish, plus, they despise the West. So it would've happened, in my opinion, sooner or later.

This only proves that America can do EVERYTHING* bigger and better than the UK. 33 people. Christ.

* - Everything aside from win more wars than us. Hell. Yeh.

big bro boogie 07-07-2005 04:02 PM

Err... I dunno if you mean me with that too, Dark Elite. But if I wasn't clear, I was being quite sarcastic at times, you know?

AquaticAmbi 07-07-2005 04:42 PM

Hey, arguing people, this is not time for being all disrespectful and petty. Shut it. Please.

I haven't had my television plugged in for a week or so, and I didn't hear about this until half an hour ago at my grandparents'. My heart goes out to all of London as well. The two-story bus that was bombed looks like it's done the most damage. I saw shots of blood splattered on the walls of buildings where it went off. And all the wounded people (even if it's not much compared to the attacks here)... God, it looked horrible.

But seeing the strength and resilience of the people there is amazing--So many men and women declaring they won't let this affect their daily lives negatively.

used:) 07-08-2005 07:00 AM

Death toll is now at 50.

Dark Elite_H2 07-08-2005 07:40 AM

Aquatic, you actually saw blood spatter on the walls of where the bomb went off? That's pretty damn scary... O.O

Munch's Master 07-08-2005 07:45 AM

50? I pray for all those killed, injured, or related to victims of this attack. 50 so far have been confirmed? I sadly think there may be more in the wreckage at King's Cross. And Ambi, that sounds pretty horrific. I'm glad I haven't seen such pictures.

Dark Elite_H2 07-08-2005 07:49 AM

I really wouldn't want to see it...and 50 already!? Yesterday, 33, today, confirmed of 50 people killed.

big bro boogie 07-08-2005 08:12 AM

The amount of deaths in the double decker bus now counts thirteen.

Statikk HDM 07-08-2005 10:21 AM

People are saying that they were attacked over the olympics. Are they ****ing serious? Anybody who really believes that is functionally retarded. My mom said she'd heard that from some people, even media figures. Good thing I bitchslapped her back to reality with the fact of British presence in Iraq and G8.
Yeah, they ****ing killed 50 people and maimed a couple dozen more because karate wasn't voted in.

AquaticAmbi 07-08-2005 10:38 AM

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Aquatic, you actually saw blood spatter on the walls of where the bomb went off? That's pretty damn scary... O.O

I didn't actually see the blood splatter, but I saw the blood that was splattered. Still pretty terrible; it was everywhere.

I've also seen a few pictures/videos taken from cell phones from victims and passers-by. The scariest cell phone video was taken in a subway: There was much chaos and what looked like fire in a distance behind all the people.

Dark Elite_H2 07-08-2005 10:45 AM

*shudders* that's terrible.....

used:) 07-08-2005 06:54 PM

I have seen London's great architecture in person. I can't believe they would ruin such refined architecture. I can't believe they would do any of this period!

MojoMan220 07-08-2005 07:25 PM

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I have seen London's great architecture in person. I can't believe they would ruin such refined architecture. I can't believe they would do any of this period!

The architecture? Are you mad?! They can rebuild that which was damaged, but those victims are gone forever.

Dino 07-09-2005 12:10 AM

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Death toll is now at 50.

Aww dude, think about how many families that is. :(

Why can't these terrorists just kill our prime minister or politicians?

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The architecture? Are you mad?! They can rebuild that which was damaged, but those victims are gone forever.

No he's got a point actually... You might not know this since you're an ignorant American (;)) but London is just jam packed full of irreplaceable architecture from many famous and historical architects and designers. There's a lot of heritage there and a lot of stuff that if even just a little bit damaged, has to be carefully restored by a team of specialists... bomb damage would just be too much... you can't rebuild that sort of thing, it can only be replaced with something that is essentially just shallow and void of meaning. I'm not exactly sure of where the bomb blasts occured but I heard that one was in a tube station, and if that's correct then again it's more scope for causing irreparable damge to irreplaceable architecture, since many of London's tube stations are quite unique architectural pieces.

a flock of seagulls 07-09-2005 12:24 AM

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Aww dude, think about how many families that is. :(

Thats about one family down here in california.

Facsimile 07-09-2005 12:38 AM

Although I am aware that the amount of deaths is nothing compared to that of September 11, I think one of the worst things to come of this is that it means terrorism has become very much a part of everyday life. It's now not months or years of planning for one big attack, it's many smaller attacks anywhere in the world.

Also, you can't look at it like "32 deaths, that's not much" because if it was a close friend or member of your family, it would be like the end of your world. Any innocent human life ended is a tragedy to someone.

It's interesting to me that the number of explosions dropped from seven (what the news stations were saying a couple of hours after the incident) to four (how many it actually was). What gave them the impression it was seven in the first place?

Dino 07-09-2005 12:40 AM

I agree.

I hate it when people compare tragedies. There is no comparison, whether it's a hundred deaths or a million, it's all equally horrible when they're just innocent people.

a flock of seagulls 07-09-2005 12:40 AM

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it would be like the end of your world.

No, not really, I tend to get over close deaths in pretty much an hour.

Facsimile 07-09-2005 12:48 AM

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No, not really, I tend to get over close deaths in pretty much an hour.

Oh, sorry. I wasn't counting 'tough guys' like you.

a flock of seagulls 07-09-2005 12:59 AM

No need to be sarcastic, facsimile, I was mearly pointing out that it wouldnt be the end of my world.

Dino 07-09-2005 01:11 AM

AFOS, you made three mistakes here.

You bullshitted to make yourself look like a big tough guy.

You responded to a general statement like it was directed at you personally.

And you did all this in a thread about the London attacks, which is incredibly disrespectful.

Admit it, if mommy died you'd spend the better part of a week sobbing in a darkened corner. You are not going to get respect by acting like you're an uncompassionate inconsiderate bastard.

Jacob 07-09-2005 01:27 AM

'I have seen London's great architecture in person. I can't believe they would ruin such refined architecture.'

Yes, such a terrible, terrible loss. I for one feel like they've struck a blow by destroying such gorgeous buildings(!)

'Also, you can't look at it like "32 deaths, that's not much" because if it was a close friend or member of your family, it would be like the end of your world.'

I agree, but it still isn't much. The Terrorists did a pretty shitty job on London, t'as to be said, what with it actually bringing people closer together, the lack of deaths (compared to prior attacks) and the fact London is being quite stoic etc.

I like Britain. I think we're the best country in the whooooooole world.

...though our weather's poop. But Global Warming should sort that out. Yes.

a flock of seagulls 07-09-2005 01:28 AM

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But Global Warming should sort that out. Yes.

I think its safe to say Nuclear Winter will cancel that out.

Munch's Master 07-09-2005 02:11 AM

But will there be a nuclear winter? Anyway back on topic, Dino was right, you cannot compare tradgedies no matter what the death toll. 1 or 1 million, an innocent life has been taken early and some people will be very upset. I know I'd be devastated if one of my family died, so I'd guess that anyone else would too. Except flock of seagulls, apparently.

Rex Tirano 07-09-2005 04:12 AM

FOS please be more respectful. The only time you've come to grips with death is when a pet has died.

I don't understand about the bombs though. I think the BBC is still claiming that it's 6/7 bombs, and as far as I know the police have decided that it wasn't suicide bombers as they're searching for the terrorists... But I'm not sure.

- Rexy

a flock of seagulls 07-09-2005 04:28 AM

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FOS please be more respectful. The only time you've come to grips with death is when a pet has died.

I don't understand about the bombs though. I think the BBC is still claiming that it's 6/7 bombs, and as far as I know the police have decided that it wasn't suicide bombers as they're searching for the terrorists... But I'm not sure.

- Rexy

Listen, you don't know how many deaths i've had to go through, so don't act like you know me.

Rich 07-09-2005 04:33 AM

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Listen, you don't know how many deaths i've had to go through, so don't act like you know me.
Even so, you sounded very shallow and fake. I doubt what you said is true. And Rexy lost her mother recently, I doubt you've experienced a loss this great so don't make false assumptions.

a flock of seagulls 07-09-2005 04:35 AM

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Even so, you sounded very shallow and fake. I doubt what you said is true. And Rexy lost her mother recently, I doubt you've experienced a loss this great so don't make false assumptions.

Oh, i didnt make an assumption. I know she doesnt know. I have lost something that great. so dont make assumptions about me.

Rich 07-09-2005 04:45 AM

Alright I can respect that, but this is a delicate issue. I know what you mean about getting over death quickly. Both my Nans have died but I felt very little loss which upsets me now, I feel guilty as though they didn't mean anything to me. I loved them both but now I feel maybe I was living a lie as I feel ashamed of myself for being so apathetic towards people who loved me dearly.
I loved them but felt guilty when I didn't cry or feel any great loss. I didn't feel like crying or being upset.

What makes it worse is that I KNOW I would be upset if my mom or dad died, so I should have felt upset when these other people died.
But I think that I can relate my feelings to my atheism and positivity. When I attend funerals I have to stop myself from laughing, which sounds really wrong, but because to me the religious service is like a farce.
I suppose I don't feel the grief as I like to remember things positively, not dwell on them negatively.

Wolfpac 07-09-2005 07:27 AM

So how else thought it was the French after London stole the Olympics off them?

Rich 07-09-2005 07:32 AM

I doubt our frog munching eurotrash "friends" would stoop that low.
They'd use crappy insults like: "They don't deserve it because their food is bad!"

Nah. I'm not like that. I like France. It's pretty. See, I'm nice.

used:) 07-09-2005 08:05 AM

I have had a few family deaths but most of them were when I was too young to remember. I just had a recent one. My Aunt died. At first, I wasnt as fazed as a lot of my other family members were, but then it began to sink in, and I realized that she is truly gone forever and what time I spent with her is the only thing that I have to hold on to. I know that this kind of death isn't as heart piercing as a death of a mother or brother, but I really can't imagine losing someone that close.

Dino 07-09-2005 09:28 AM

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Oh, i didnt make an assumption. I know she doesnt know. I have lost something that great. so dont make assumptions about me.

Yes, you have lost something - you've lost your sanity, and credibility.

a flock of seagulls 07-09-2005 10:13 AM

Will you stop trying to make flamewars and stay ontopic.

Dipstikk 07-09-2005 10:29 AM

AFOS, this is not a thread on how much of a Manly McManwich you are, so knock off the crap. I once attended the funeral of my late Aunt Sandy. Now, I'm 18 years old, and I was bawling. I seriously doubt that someone who's 5 years younger than me can stare at a dead body and laugh a thunderous laugh.

Dino, this is more of a request than a yelling-at, but if you could, just keep the arguements in PMs? I mean, I understand AFOS bothers you, but seriously. This is a bad thread to carry on personal arguements in.

Thank you.

soulstice 07-09-2005 10:35 AM

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Hey, arguing people, this is not time for being all disrespectful and petty. Shut it. Please.

I haven't had my television plugged in for a week or so, and I didn't hear about this until half an hour ago at my grandparents'. My heart goes out to all of London as well. The two-story bus that was bombed looks like it's done the most damage. I saw shots of blood splattered on the walls of buildings where it went off. And all the wounded people (even if it's not much compared to the attacks here)... God, it looked horrible.

But seeing the strength and resilience of the people there is amazing--So many men and women declaring they won't let this affect their daily lives negatively.


Nobody can shatter the British spirit. When we were Blitzed, we didn't give in. The morale of Britain is too strong. Even Rudolph Giuliani said that the strength of the Brits in WW2 inspired New Yorkers at the time of the 9/11 attacks.