I want to make sure that everyone that I hope against hope that everything I said at the beginning turns out to be wrong. I love Oddworld. For Christ sake I won a Strangers Wrath poster on ebay for 85 dollars. I paid more for the damn poster than I did for the game. I just don't see the glory days of Oddworld returning and it saddens me. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

Then let us all hope together.

I must say that I really think that Oddworld is going down hill. I think they should have finished the oddworld video games before starting the movies because now it seems that can't get back together again. I belive Oddworld may just be doomed.

I don't think that Oddworld is doomed.......yet. If they do plan on making films, then they must, and I mean, MUST be successful in order for them to continue doing what they do best (Well, in my opinion, anyway.). I fear that if these films (if they ever come about) are not successful in theaters, then Oddworld may be in a lot of trouble. :( But I sincerely hope that this will NEVER happen. I wish great success to them. :)

Your exemplification is flawed. I won't go into the whole movies/games conundrum, as it's pretty much been sorted out - an Oddworld film would work in 1997 less than a creative game nowadays - but these games that haven't yet come about. Hmmm. Development never even started on Sligstorm, and it was only ‘announced’ long after it was decided not to go through with the idea. When Paul O'Connor - not even Lorne Lanning - first mentioned it, he was saying it was an idea they had that was ultimately rejected. Don't try to sound as if you were disappointed because they announced after long hype that it wouldn't come about : such a situation has never occured.

Squeek's Oddysee and Munch's Exoddus have likewise never been announced as titles under development, merely projects Lorne has for the future. The only misunderstanding that could occur here is that period after the release of Munch's Oddysee when we didn't know what OWI were working on, but everyone assumed it would be ME. That's our fault, not Lorne's.

Hand of Odd is a slightly different story. It was announced, true, but at the time the title was actually “brewing in the belly of Odd” - the website wasn't lying. Development fizzled out as production concentrated on Munch's Oddysee, but that's not worthy of another announcement.

We don't even know the source of the Fangus “announcement”, even if you didn't mention it. Whatever magazines and websites it was touted on never gave their source. Who says it was Lorne? This ‘doublespeak’ everyone is going on about seems to be a popular buzzword these days. Perhaps you should think about what you're applying it to before you slap it on another disappointed artist.

Dark Oddworld and I, repping Cheese Land. W00t W00t!!!
But back on topic. Sligstorm I'll give you. But what about those Tales games? And don't blow Hand of Odd off that quickly. There was hype and it was doing a lot more than just brewing. Not only that, not making "M.E" is punking out on a promise that has exsisted as long as the company. Bonus games really ought to be a forgone conclusion.

there was no hype at all, only a little text on the official site and a very few pictures.

you can't call that hype.

I don't care one bit about hype. We were told that these things would exist and they have not. I am not a petty little child crying over not getting what I wanted, either. I have merely lost faith in OI because of their lack of giving what they said that they would.

Well there are plans which you hope that will happen, but sometimes it just dosn't happen the way things should been planned.

It's funny, back when started developing they were gunna do games, and games were cheaper to make back then, while 3D CG films were expensive to make. Now it's changed, it's all the other way around. Making games are becoming more expensive than making CG films.

It's sad because oddworld games were the most interesting games that I ever played, and still are. It's just way they make the gaming expereince odd. I always thought Oddworld would suit to become a virtual world, an alien world where you do stuff, filled with things and inhabitants. And giving the great story telling makes things interesting.

Yeah it is sad and I do agree with old and not so tasty. I mean look Alf has left his post. Abe is only taking a vacation according OI and would be back, every time we get into one of these we will be back to finish it up things, it never gets to the doing! Finish something, anything, just follow up on it. I could see it coming before Stranger came out, it became clear when they announced Citzen Seige, and know with all this other stuff know. I think he is just digging himself into a deeper and deeper whole telling gamespy and what not "to expect more," when it just cannot humanly happen, it sad to see Oddworld drifting away slowly like this. It hurts less to tear the bandage off then to peel it off, if Oddworld is going down then they should just tell us. Heres a question how long will the forums last without oddworld, without new games that kinda kills the flow of newbies and even old members will loose intrest eventually no matter how dedicated you would be. If anyone would have mentioned Oddworld falling on its feet 2 months ago though members would attack them like it was the Inquistion.
It hurts but seems true enough to me. If Oddworld did get the game done great I would love to see that nothing would make me happier, but I just don't seeing it happening

Games are still cheaper than CG films, they're just harder to get funding for.

NDW, I'm not sure about that you know...
with the next generation of consoles it will be even more expencive to create games.

I heard Lorne say in the order of $30million for a top of the line game.

I beleive that a top of the line CG movie can cost around $100million but I could be wrong.

Lorne certainly did complain about the funding arrangements for games as compared to movies.

That's bull, I read full aticles about Hand of Odd.

Why do have that gut feeling that Lorne might want to produce Hand of Odd on the next-gen consoles. Because it might do realy good on the next-gen consoles, with a world of inhabitants, costumizing, online play or mulitplayer. It might fit well, I do not see why Lorne has to be forced to do action shooting games, when a game like Hand of Odd might be successful. But that's just me.:fuzblink:

I'm not against the ow-prodution of the movie, I really like the idea but only if the movie it's bout oddworld then i'm pleased, if not...well i'm still pleased but not that pleased...if ya know what i mean :catslug::p

Maybe OWI is running low on cash. MO and SW didn't really achieve the effect that AO and AE did, I mean maybe they have enough money to produce another game but if it follows the trend the last 2 did, Lorne might be fearing that there might not be a game after that. That would explain the letting go of the employees and Lorne going for what he thinks the public wants, but at the same time does not want to disappoint the fans. Maybe Lorne is secretly a forum member. Yet Oddworld's future is going to look pretty dry unless they do some serious work'in

The real problem here is getting people to the theatres to see a CG animated movie that isn't made for children. Does anyone remember how well FF:SW did? Can you think of any other films of this type that have done well in theatres? I think OI is just setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.

FF:SW wasn't a good film... the story was realy cheap.
so it didn't got good critics and nobody went to see it.

I think OWI migh succeed. At least I hope so

I hope so too, but I seriously doubt very many people are going to go see a "kids movie" that isn't made for kids.

AAAAARGH!
don't you f*king hear yaselves, goddamit, when AE was available in stores, we all begged for a oddworld movie, like bugging alf:
Q:is there going to be an oddworld movie?
Alf: were not sure but there probably will be.

and now: o my god oddworlds dying, oh no oddworld is gonna make movies and we aren't getting any of those expected games.

Well thats all i say. Its the Odd God Lorne's will. It cant be turned back. Face it.

glad someone here share my point of view...

I havent been able to get the last two games anyway. :-P
As long as they keep producing the artwork, and make a 'The Next 10 years of Oddworld Artwork' then I dont mind.

Although, they have given up as the next generation of consoles are being shown, so you think they could've given one of them a go, what with the new levels of power causing less restrictions...

It'll cost alot more to make a game on the next-gen consoles.

Yes, it will cost a heck of a lot more to make a game on a next gen console and that price will continue to rise as new consoles continue to come out. (At least that's what I think.) And like I said-I'm not against the making of an Oddworld film-I'm very excited that there are plans for that! :) But I'm just worried about it fitting a particular audience. :/

Most people I know who go to see Pixar movies are adults. There is a huge market for adult animation these days.

In any case, what makes AO so 'adult' anyway. Most of us first played the OWI games as kids, or at least teenagers.

Get over yourself, sheesh. :rolleyes:

Yes, but I think it is taking longer and longer to create games nowadays. Most probably due to the graphical demand.

very good point, oddworld was dark in his first game but nothing to afraid us as children (I was less then 13 when I first played the game, and I wasn't frightened at all)

I'm okay now, thanks anyway, i think...
well, i was 6 or 7 when i first played it, but at first i WAS frightened cause i 'couldn't stand bodies and blood.

Well theres bad language and a bit of a blood bath (sligs exploding into meat chunks, meat grinders) And this as well as General Dripik explodes into meat chuncks. Prehaps some disturbing images (stiched eyes, mudokon on a sparrow in Stockyard level,and mabey Vykkers)

Yeah, oddworld games are dark, even MO, compared to Pixers films.
And plus, the oddworld movies should darker than the games.

If they make a movie, it should definately be at least a 12 or a 15.
I want to see the darker things that were bound to happen in the later games!

Coming back to the technological restrictions where video games are concerned...
Surely Hand of Odd would be relatively easy to produce well.

Not that I'm saying its easy to produce one of those games, but there are a lot of those kind of commander/god sims, so there wouldnt be much new tricky bits (like game speak and stuff) to create from scratch.
Y'know, just a regualr good game.

HOO would be way more difficult to produce than any of the other OW games because there would be so much going on, in particular with online play. It's so unlike any other RTS/god game that they would have to start from scratch, even if it wasn't their ideology to create the game engines themselves.