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Abe16 04-19-2005 02:41 PM

Can this help? i found it. http://www.dailygame.net/news/archives/003854.php

Dipstikk 04-19-2005 02:56 PM

Since Oddworld's only a thinktank now, do you think we'll be seeing some outside voice talents besides Lanning?

odd chick 04-19-2005 02:59 PM

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Since Oddworld's only a thinktank now, do you think we'll be seeing some outside voice talents besides Lanning?

Hmmm...I'm not so sure about that, but it could be possible, I suppose. I'm not sure if it would be such a good idea, though. It would be cool if there were people that no one had ever heard of doing the voice work, but heaven forbid if famous actors are hired to do voice work! I wouldn't like that idea. =/

Dipstikk 04-19-2005 03:09 PM

Well, not like the big-wigs of hollywood, but people who have experience in voice work. Don't get me wrong, I adore Lanning for doing all that, but there were a lot of places in each of his games that I think could have been done a lot better.


On the note of "Not having big-wigs playing voices":
I could see Jeff Glenn Bennett playing the voice of a Slig or Glukkon, but not someone like Bruce Willis.

Leto 04-19-2005 11:58 PM

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I'm not sure I would agree. If the story was told so it could relate to today, with likeable characters, it could be very successful. Look at Shrek, Robots, Finding Nemo, the Incredibles....... as long as it was told well and appealed to a large audience with no prior knowledge of OW, there is no reason it couldn't be well received.

I think that even a moderately successful movie would give them the clout to press on and branch out. That would spawn merchandise and games.

What we want is a bigger, stronger OW, who can't be forced to compromise on the story, art or quality. Right now, they just don't have the resources to branch out to other mediums, and can't even get recognition for one of the best games ever produced (SW).

I have seen the trailers and cut scenes for all the games, and IMHO, they could rival anything that Pixar could do.

Sorry, I didn't really pay attention to the character comparisons before. I can see it would sort of have the correct CG movie formula... But they better release some dark ones! No cutesy crap.

Xavier 04-20-2005 09:55 AM

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Since Oddworld's only a thinktank now, do you think we'll be seeing some outside voice talents besides Lanning?

most likely, Lorne will be the brain, and thus have lots of things to do.
I think he wont have the time to do all the voice acting anymmore

Nate 04-20-2005 05:58 PM

Based on that Gamespot interview, I think it's safe to say that Fangus has been put on the backburner. It may well be the first game they make under the new system but my vibe is that their secret new project is not a game.

Oddish 04-22-2005 10:52 AM

Another artcle by eurogamer.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=58673

Xavier 04-22-2005 10:59 AM

this article is just a sum up, I mean, there is nothing new in there, isn't it?

overgame did an excellent one too: http://www.overgame.com/page/21439.htm
but it's in French :(

Esus 04-22-2005 11:04 AM

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"It was very disheartening to us," he said, "that we could have a title with a Metacritic.com user metric of 9.6, a game that was praised as being a fusion of filmmaking and video games in terms of being less 'gamey' and more story- and character-driven... and then to see that the largest publisher in the industry had no interest in marketing it regardless of how innovative it was."
True, but I didn't think OWI were being as blatent as that this time round. :D

Oddish 04-22-2005 01:23 PM

Well I thought the quotes gave a bit of info, but I just found somewhere and posted it here just in case.

I've translated the french artcle, it makes a bit more sense now.

Sapphire 04-23-2005 09:13 AM

There's absolutely nothing new in here, but I just though I would share that comcast.net has a headline about Oddworld's changes on the front page. People are noticing. Perhaps, if OWI feels like enough people are turning heads at this, the public will be more ready for something like a movie. After all, they went almost completely underground for Stranger, and although nobody's really mentioning that as a problem, I think that hurt them just as much as EA's utter lack of marketing. Word of mouth can be a powerful thing, but there wasn't much to spread around. Perhaps this time, we'll get a little more news from them; at least, that's what I hope. I understand that they have to be careful, but sometimes being too quiet can cost ya, so this is, in my opinion, a good thing that people are talking about this and taking notice.

http://www.comcast.net/games/invasio...18/605212.html

Wil 04-24-2005 10:03 AM

[quote=GIGnews, November 2003]Melanie Cambron: As the game industry continues to grow and become more "corporate" in nature, it seems increasingly less likely that unusual projects will fostered. How can developers of unique games like the Oddworld series get a break?

Sherry McKenna: I think that there will always be an outlet for great games to get published just like there is an outlet for indie films.[quote]

It seems as though the video game industry has developed a more serious case of sequel-itis than either Lorne or Sherry could have imagined just one-and-a-half years ago. This is the biggest shame I feel, asides from the Inhabitants that had to find work elsewhere - still, Lorne and Sherry were immensely proud of the Inhabitants, and they were a talented bunch, so I'm sure they'll be alright - because it's something that's actually forced Lorne to abandon, at least in a sense, the medium he felt he could turn around from a dry field of fun to an exciting, artistic and meaningful palette. It means that despite Oddworld's best efforts, they haven't prevented the gaming industry from drying up creatively.

Other than that, I hope the more established indie film industry, be more tollerant of an Oddworld film, even if it's not going to be indie. I hope even more the masses can learn to love it, and hey, maybe Lorne and Sherry will secure a game liscene from it. :p

Sapphire 04-24-2005 01:09 PM

Well, people are talking about "sequel-itis" as if it hasn't affected the movie industry, too. What was the last big hit you can think of that wasn't a sequel, wasn't based off of a story from another medium, and wasn't a remake of some older (and even not-so-old) classic? Aside from some of the recent horror movies and CG films using almost exclusive celebrity voices, I can't think of a whole lot.

I think this is a problem not only for the game industry, but also for Hollywood, and I hope that Lorne and Sherry don't run to movies only to find the same problems plaguing that arena, too. I hope that his enthusiasm for their original ideas has been rekindled enough that this barrier could be overcome. When he talks about an OW movie, I sure hope it's Abe's Oddysee he means, and not Fangus, or something like that which is more tailored to suit the current low-risk environment.

EDIT: And besides, there's nothing wrong with a sequel, if it's good. Look at Exoddus. That was a brilliant sequel, because it takes up right where Oddysee left off and really enhances the story. If you look at the Art of OW book, you can see that Soulstorm Brew was part of the plan from the very beginning, but they just couldn't fit it into Oddysee, so Exoddus was born. Sequels are not all bad, in my opinion, and seeing more of a good story is always welcomed, for me. There are certain things that just should never have had sequels, but in general, those are things where the sequel feels tacked-on, doesn't carry the original feel of the first one that people liked, and seems there only to make more moolah off of the first one and not to actually continue the story at all. People are already complaining about Doom the movie, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the game's extremely basic premise. I really think Abe's Oddysee could change the idea that has been rightly implanted into people's minds that games don't make good movies. I've been thinking about it for years, as have other people... we all know it could be AMAZING. So, sequels can be a good thing, I wanna make that really clear. ;)

mudling 04-24-2005 07:43 PM

wait, does this all mean that the next movie will be of abes oddysee, or another one of abe's adventures before he found munch? i would like the movies to be set after MO, and the games lorne had planned to be turned into movies, but i guess it isn't as easy as it sounds.

Sapphire 04-24-2005 11:00 PM

We have no idea.

sligger 04-25-2005 06:20 AM

i seen it somewhere that oddworld munches oddysee was falling apart. and that is why they made strangers wrath. ( even if it doesnt have abe or munch.)

Oddish 04-27-2005 09:31 AM

It's not much different, but it has bit more clear info.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...(que)id=117845

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