i think there are more powerful psychoactive drugs, such as E or acid, for a communal or philosophical cognitive line of thought.


i don't think weed is for losers or anything, but i'm straight. i'm not going to delve into it, but i had a horrible experience with some hard drugs a year and a half ago that made me quit cold turkey, so i don't engage in any drugs. i smoke cigarettes and drink and that's my limit.

Alot of people say weed leads to higher class drugs, tbh it doesn't. You have to keep a certain degree of self-control and to not cross that line. Nice name TBB ;)

thanks.


the thing about that is that it doesn't always apply. there are a lot of variables, be it behavioral or biological.

some people have addictive personalities.

some people are just too curious for their own good.


i'm one of the latter, unfortunately and it cost me.


if you're able to experiment in a purely empirical way, then more power to you. but it does not happen often.

Yeah i'll agree. The step up from cannabis is probably speed and from what i've heard that stuff is really addictive and causes alot of dehydration relation deaths because it uses up your body's reserves. Curiosity killed the cat and it might just get you aswell :/

well, i'd say methamphetamines are a pretty big step from marijuana.



maybe if you live in los angeles or orange county.



i'd say the next logical step would be something like ecstasy or painkillers[such as oxycotin, vicodin, or percoset] with the occasional LSD mixed in.


any methamphetamine, such as ecstasy[methyldeoxymethamphetamine] acetminophen, or just plain speed will dehydrate you, because of increased metabolism[increased heart rate and motor functions]-- which is often why methheads are pretty skinny-- but if you're smart and you just drink water, you'll be okay. i'm not in any way condoning the use of drugs and i think most people should shy away from harder things, but it's better to be well-informed.


in my personal experience, speed isn't very fun. i felt like my heart was going to explode.


ecstasy-related deaths are often attributed to dehydration. some people are just idiots about it; like they'll use more than two or three in one go, or they'll ignore their dehydration and keep straining themselves.

you shouldn't use it more than once or twice in a given month.



the funny thing is most people who use speed think they're moving incredibly fast, hence its name. the fact is that if you ever see someone on meth, they're a drooling mess babbling to themselves.


not a fun scene, any way you cut it.

Cool. We now have a resident drug specialist.

I'm not sure if I have any biological predispositions to addiction (besides alcoholism, there's somewhat of a history of that in my family), but mentally I'm probably the kind of person who would become addicted to drugs. I have little self control, become addicted easily to caffeine, and would probably find drugs a lot more exciting than everyday life (I'll bet a huge percentage of people who do drugs first tried them out of pure boredom). Maybe these traits aren't necessarily indicative of a highly addictive personality, but I wouldn't take my chances. Even if I wanted to do drugs. Which I don't.

Reading is my drug! Yeah! Stay in school!

Reading is ok. But School?

Give me a Cannabis fag instead of school...

Tru dat. I say, stay in school until you can read, then drop the hell out. Not literally, but, y'know.

Reading is like a drug to me though... A very, VERY good drug that doesn't cost much, isn't looked down upon, and sends me on a trip I won't soon forget. Yeah.

I neither tried maryjane nor do I want to try it. But for me it's okay when other people want to smoke that stuff as long as they don't smoke near me. I get headache from the smell of cigarettes and shishas so I think same would happen when mj.

Sometimes I don't mind the smell of pot, and sometimes I do. It seems like the smell differs quite a lot. Sometimes its fine, and sometimes its horribly acrid and eye-watering. Maybe it depends on the environment, or maybe there's just some bad pot going around.

yeah dude.


if you become addicted to caffeine, haha.


'nihilists? **** me, dude... i mean... say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.'

What happens is we get a case or two of pop, I drink a heck of a lot for about a week and get addicted, then get sick of it and don't drink much pop again for a while. I'm not permanently addicted as one of my friends is. Pepsi is like air to him.

I've heard that quote before. But where?

TBB, ignore TheRaisin.

He's full of himself.

holy shit dude, then you know exactly what it's like to hit heroin for a year, quit it for a year cold turkey, then hit it up again, only this time hardballing it with cocaine.


you're the man!!

The smell differs depending on how it is eg resin, skunk and the oils etc.

DI, who else would I be full of? Unless I were a cannibal . . .

Heh. Okay TBB, bad example. What I'm trying to say is that IF susceptibility to minor vices such as these is indicative of an addictive personality, then I am probably a prime candidate for becoming addicted to much more harmful substances. Of course it may be that they're not, in which case I would be a bit less apprehensive about trying pot or whatever, if I decided to try it, which I do not foresee happening in the near future.

Now where did you get that quote? I know I heard it once a long time ago.

Leeum, what is this "resin, skunk and the oils etc" of which you speak? I'm not familiar with marijuana.

Wow. If you can't handle Cola, stick to reading... :rolleyes:

Cola isn't capitalized . . . except at the beginning of a sentence. Or in Coca Cola, which is a brand name.

What about Pepsi Cola?

Stupid.

well, it really isn't.



pop is one thing. i think anybody could get addicted to it, because it's a beverage.


alcohol is different, though.



why all the hate?

Because The Raisin is a douche.

At least I'm clean then.

What hate? I wasn't hating, honestly.

I think most alcohol is consumed in the form of alcoholic beverages . . . I could be wrong though.

Come to think of it, this is really a moot point, because I really don't plan on ever doing any sort of drug. I suppose the only sure way to avoid addiction is to not consume anything potentially addictive. I'm sticking with caffeine, though. It makes me feel like dancing.

O_O
This topic WAS intresting...

so is your aversion of the letter 'e'.

Like I said. If you can't handle pop :p stay out of the pop factory.

or just eat a shotgun sandwich.



one of the two.

I didn't find it very intresting.

I like pop though. And Starbucks Mocha Frappuccinos, twelve for five bucks at your local Costco wholesale outlet! *hits the bottle*

But back on the subject of marijuana, can anyone offer an explanation of factors affecting the smell of burning pot?

What happened to this topic :/ :p

Okay this topic was *interesting*TBB. Anyways, while I think marijuana does spark the philosophical thinking in a huge way, most of the time they are completely retarded. My friend who smokes tells me about his epiphanies, and sometimes he'll think he found the answer to everything and he'll tell me that everything and everyone is a circle, revolves in a circle, and is made up of circles. I was like WTF! The scary thing is some people believe the *philosphy* they have while they are high even after the effects wear off. Some good things do come out of it though I guess, like we have more freedoms because of what the hippies did in the 60's. I guess this topic could be taken as a flame toward you Sulleytheraptor, but its really not and I think that what you said was intresting and wasn't retarded at all.

i wouldn't give marijuana that much credit.


and the revelations people have while they are high are ludicrous.




i would give more credit to the free-thinkers during the tenure of Timothy Leary who used LSD.

people who get high and try to wax philosophical are not much fun. for a few reasons. most of the time, they don't know what they're saying.



now, if you had two people who actually study philosophy and they both read Thus Spake Zarathustra and then went on about it, that could be interesting.



i had a discussion where someone tried to use the Nietzschian 'God is dead' metaphor in a physical sense. that's what i mean.



peoples' behaviors while they are high don't change just because their high. the quality of any given conversation is directly proportional to their intelligence.


marijuana doesn't turn morons into savants.

Yeah, we're actually made of spheres. :p

no, good sir!

That's not too nice.

Anyway, as for pot, I think it's fun, but not worth doing frequently. Maybe once a month or whatever is fine. Actually, I have a cool story about these stoned epiphanies.

I have a friend who has a friend who is a 50 year old hippie. He has long hair, he smokes pot every day, and he's actually pretty smart, although spacey. So during the summer, he thought that the world was going to revert back to 1973 and he'd be the only one to know. I thought it was cool that he could be that crazy. He's a nice guy, just a total stoner. And that's my story.

An interesting story at that, good sir. Old hippies are cool.

As for frequent 'pot' smoking, I find that rather childish. Well, if you can afford it, and don't mind losing a few sperm, go well ahead. Otherwise, I'd say keep it occasional. That's what I do, anyways.