Haha, good words guy ! :D

Feh. There's a difference between sexual gratification and emotion. I think of sexual desire as more of a physical instinct, like hunger. Love is completely different.

Not that it's impossible to substitute one for the other. It's just my opinion that mutual love is, in the long run, much more satisfactory.

No no no, the self gratification is only for the physical part. Eric Clapton heals the emotional vacancy left by utter hatred of life and all things related. Simple concept, really.

Love is a product of human emotional evolution. It's something humans learnt to do when we first started building civilisations. And it grew so common it became passed down as a part of your emotions.

I don't know why I've suddenly become some sort of evolutionary scientist but I think I'll go with it for now.

Denile is a joke. It's actually spelled denial...

Oh sod it.

I didn't read the other part but that made me laugh :p

erm... yes... on topic....

I love you.

On a sort of related note, my wellness teacher told my class the following generalized statement, which seems more true than false for most guys: "For guys, love equals sex, and for girls sex equals love", meaning guys think if they're in love, they'll have to have sex. And girls think if they have sex, they have to be in love.

Then she said that sex doesn't have to equal love to guys, and then love doesn't always equal sex to girls. Heh, my teachers sometimes leans towards being a sexist, but it would seem like there's too many guys out there that do think like that. In fact, I've even came across females like those kind of guys as well. Sad, sad world...

Your teacher is a sexist. And that's way too common. My middle school health teacher was like MILITANTLY against men. On an interesting side note, she was recently divorced when I had her as a teacher. . .

"Denial (the Nile) isn't just a river in Egypt" is the saying. I personally prefer "The Euphrates isn't just a river in Mesopotamia."

Who the hell is Eric Clapton?

YOU SUCK! You think simple ejaculation can heal the wounds of a torn broken crushed heart! I'm with Jacob on this one! LOVE SUCKS! GODDAM ALL OF YOU PEOPLE WHO THINK LOVE IS SO SIMPLE! NOT EVERYONE IS A YOU! SOME PEOPLE ARE A THEM! I'm sorry... but it's true...

Love itself is simple. It's a person's choice to complicate the situation in most cases. Heh, I am "GODDAM"-ed.

I have this big idea that love is the greatest thing in the world, which is true... But I often fear that I'll be let down significantly, and I liken it to Princess Diana's vision of her perfect husband, perfect family, etc, etc. She grew up dreaming of a fairytale life, that wasn't to be. And I do fear my own ideas of love may never eventuate. Which would be devasting.

Lets hope I find someone just like me in my thinking.

Alcar...

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There is a girl I like, admitedly far more than any other girl I have ever met, but she is unaware of this.
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Couldn't have been said better. Sigh.

What!?
He is a blues style guitarist. He's very good at what he does but his recent efforts are all poppy shite.

Sounds crappy. I've heard enough blues style stuff to last a lifetime, living as I do with two former hippies. My parents grew up in the sixties and seventies, and it sure rubbed off on them. Not I, though! I detest most of what they listen to.

Hey, those are my parents! Give them back!

Yep, my parents sound just like that.

these are mine"GET the hell out of hear." and "SHUT THE HELL UP!"

All of the above. I get on great with girls but as soon as it turns into a 'relationship' i look at them in a different way, it's werd, but not :S

isn't it what every man thinks

??? Hell no. If one of my attractive friends who are girls suddenly showed interest in becoming more than friends, I would not let the chance pass me by. That is, if I weren't already pursuing a relationship with a specific person.

I had a friend who began fancying one of the friends in the group. She didn't want a relationship though, just a one night stand with him.

I told her directly that if she did pursue this, i would make it my aim to have her and the other friend exiled from the group.

Friends should NEVER do ANYTHING, other than kiss, with each other. Unless there are no feelings involved [which, my this instance, there was]. Have a f*ckbuddy by all means, but never have a f*ckbuddy who you fancy. Especially if it's a friend.

Things get complicated and bitter and eventually the whole group ends up being incinerated in a vat of supreme bitterness.

It would seem that I haven't yet answered the question.

No. I have not found love.

I'm alone. I saw the future and nothing. ( Because two times in every year I see the future... really) I have strange personality and a strange aura. They look at me and they thinks I'm an idiot. I'm different. I'm a stranger. I'm alone.

You have a strange "aura"? ..... Uh hmm.

Will, if there's someone you like that doesn't like you back, you can complain. If you don't particularly care, who gives a rat's ass what they think? There's a difference between potential for love and social status.

I hate it when people complain about being "single". I say it's better than some bullshit relationship just for the sake of not being lonely. Loneliness is the human condition. If there's someone you really care about, good for you, go for them. If not, learn how to cope on your own. And if you're just looking for a good time, don't set up any false pretenses.

Jacob, correct me if I'm wrong. You say one shouldn't have sex with someone one likes for more than their physical qualities? That seems to go against the fundamental ideas of civilized sexual activity. I think it's a shame to give up virginity for "a one-night stand". Sex should be with someone you know and love and trust. Bollocks to anyone who gets burned. That's life. To forego emotion for simple sexual satisfaction is just weak. You should read Brave New World.

'You say one shouldn't have sex with someone one likes for more than their physical qualities?'

When did i say that?

I was saying that if a friend fancies a friend, and they want to sleep with that friend, they shouldn't. Because things get complicated in such instances.

Ah it applies only to friends. Okay. I was not clear on that.

I suppose I see where you're coming from.

I will most likely be alone. It is what I want to do.

Couldn't have said it better myself, mainly because I'm all drugged up from having my wisdom teeth removed today. I think having sex for physical purposes only is only half as satisfying as it could be, if not even less. There's just so much more to it than physical pleasure when there's a deep emotional bond. Finding that is definitely worth the wait. :happy:

I believe in sex before marriage, but I thouroughly agree with what you said. If you're gonna have sex, let it be with someone special...

Edit: Yayness... 600 posts. Lol, it's strange that Rich the Intern is a Vykker scientist. Since when was species changing legal?

Since evolution.

I'm like the granddaddy of the Natives but I'm a Vykker scientist. Go fig.

I hold the same stance, Rich. I think using marriage as a marking point in one's life for when one can have sex is just bullshit. It's a completely arbitrary event in life that a lot of people probably don't even experience. I say people should decide for themselves when the time is right. And hopefully they won't make a stupid decision.

Aye. I didn't say I didn't believe in sex before marriage; I said waiting for the right person is right, which happens at a different time in every individual's life. Waiting for the the right person at the right time certainly doesn't mean waiting until marriage.

But shh, no one tell my mom that I believe that.

*Sighs*
There is someone that I absolutely adore... But I've thought about it a lot, and I can't do anything about it. Because I know if anything ever happened between us, it wouldn't be the same afterwards, and we're good friends now, and I never want to lose that. What kind of shit position is this to be in?

The position I've been in about, three times. And they are still my friends, but there is always one major flaw, that would definitely not see us moving on from friends to partners. And no, it is nothing to do with beauty.

I'll loose my virginity when I with someone I truly love. I'm not shy about that, either.

Alcar...

Sorry for generalising you, I thought you'd share the Christian veiwpoint of Sex being a Holy gift from God that should be restricted to marriage, which is of course bullshit. I'm glad you aren't foolish. :)

Sex is a natural function for people to have children. It feels good so that you'll be encouraged to have more children and carry on the human race. The "Holy" thing is only used as people fear that if people have sex before marriage it will be immoral. Which of course needn't be true.

Apology accepted, but I am Christian, and I do believe it's a gift from God, meaning I think it shouldn't be given away to just anyone (but if a person wants to, they have every right to do so without question). I don't think it needs to be restricted until marriage at all; however, I think there are some people out there whose "right time" may be only after marriage (I'm not one of those people, just in case you're getting the idea that I am) just like some people's time is much earlier. Everyone is different, so no, my friend, it is not bullshit for every person out there. Thinking absolutely NO one's time is after marriage, is. :p

Once again, I think sex is "Holy", but I definitely don't have a fear of having sex before marriage. Even if I did believe it was immoral, I would never try to impose my beliefs on someone else. I hold my personal beliefs for myself and myself only. I think everyone has the right to choose when, who, how many, whatever for themselves.

Personally, I wouldn't have sex with someone I didn't intend to marry someday, though. Personally. That's just the way I like it. ;)

Lol, if you had sex with 100 people you'd have to marry all of them!

Personally I think that restricting sex to marriage isn't that bad. People should be able to choose when they loose their virginity.
However, I don't believe they should restrict themselves to after marriage because "The Bible says so". They should choose and think for themselves. As you and I have done. ;)

dude in Father of the Pride. There are some Zebras (3) a guy and 2 girls both pregnate and the mans like "And I knocked them BOTH up!"

You scummy little dweeb.

I guess this is why I have a problem with polygamy: I think sex should be with someone you really really love. I am also of the belief that there is one person for everyone and that there's a level of love that simply cannot be shared between more than two people. And polygamy goes against that.

I think so too, Raisin, except I think some people are meant to be alone... like some people are destined to have a certain career, some people are meant to have a best friend, some people are meant to be with a certain person, etc. Just another common part of the partial fate I believe in and mentioned in some other thread.

Polygamy does go against my belief that the highest level of love cannot be felt by more than two people, but wouldn't you agree that people should have the right to choose if they want to reach that level for themselves?

Yes, they should. I will still be mentally opposed to it, though. And I think it's a shame that love isn't a prerequisite for marriage. In terms of marriage, I place polygamists on the same level as people who marry then divorce for money, Vegas drive-in wedding couples, and the like.

So I guess I don't have a problem with people having multiple partners. It's just when people have multiple partners and claim to be really in love with them, or try to marry, that I have to put my foot down.

By way of explanation, Oddly, I think that remark, in addition to being utter spam, was really tacky and making light of something I'm trying to discuss in earnest. And, for the love of god, where is the humor in that? It's all the poor taste of basic cable comedy without the comedy.

A lot of people have sex with anyone. This explores the term 'Spasticated pretzel knobhead.'

For y'all who're in love, just be upfront about it, do something. What if you don't? The boy/girl you love might go off with someone else? Stick your shyness up CJ's ass and do it, do it. Do it or die.

And Zachy Wilson, just because you look like something that Alcar did with a grapefruit doesn't mean you can't say that I suck for saying masturbation is wrong, think of it as practice. I admit it, I suck. But Hiliary Clinton sucks more, she swallows.