I'm not going to sign a petition. Although I prefer the original name, I respect OWI's decision. I'm sure it's not something they just made overnight ... they would have researched, talked with EA, all kinds of possibilities.

Plus, true Oddworld fans are going to buy the game no matter what. If you're not going to buy the game based on a title change, are you really a true Oddworld fan? I think from a marketing standpoint, it would be more important to try and snag the generic gamer who is unfamilliar with the series.

Abe Babe...

If it was up to me I would of called it Oddworld: Strange Days with Stranger!

But thats just me and I respect the name Stranger's Wrath because one this game is a western and two Stranger is bad ass thus the name of the game suits him best. Unfortunately I am not really fond of the title eather but you can't tell a game by its title. Sorry folks this petition probaly won't work.

Paramiteabe... :fuzblink:

Wait minute, I take everything I said back, we are true Oddworld Fans! (Sorry OI)

No, it was EA who said that.

Again, you can thank the publisher, Universal, for forcing the developer, Traveller's Tales, to produce the same regular linear gameplay. Early videos of WoC clearly showing a free-roaming world.

You don't have to take back saying you don't like the new title - you're utterly entitled to your opinion, no matter what. The more I hear the title, the less repulsed I feel. It is only the title, after all - still holding on to the hope of the dragon logo appearing.

If the game is a good game it will be a good game, if it is a bad game it will be a bad game. The name is not going to change the quality of the game in any way, shape, or form. What is wrong with you people!! Why start a petetion? Its their game, not yours. They can name it whatever they want.

"What's in a name?"
-Romeo & Juliet

Wow! It seems like the title has brought out the wrath in some of you! I do want to point out that the actual game is the same regardless of what the name is, so I hope that those of you who don't like the title (and YOU ARE entitled to that opinion!) will be just as excited about the game regardless of what it's called. Some cliche about not judging a book by its cover comes to mind.....

Without wanting to weigh in on this discussion, I think that the major theme of what people are saying is not that Oddworld fans will be turned off the game but rather that gamers who have never heard of OW before may not purchase it because the word "Wrath" (in some people's opinions) has some negative connotations. Thus providing a deep-seated irony if that name was indeed chosen for marketing purposes.

I think I can speak for all here on the forums when I say that we want this game to sell as well as possible and increase Oddworld's fanbase exponentially.

[look out Halo... Here comes Stranger]

I agree with you Alf mann. It doesn't matter what the title is, its the stuff inside which counts.

I say anyone who judges a game by its title should be smacked in the head. Because it is so unfortunate who say they are true fans and then turn around and hate the game or movie or story etc all because of a title or a minor tweek here and there. I mean please are you truely an OW fan if you do that? That drives me crazy sometimes.

Paramiteabe... :fuzblink:

I agree, but that's not a reason... I mean you should please everybody, or at least most people as possible, and people may not want to try to know more about a game they don't like the name...

lets say, here is an awesome game, but the name is BoogyWoogy will the average shopper stop and look at it?

Like I said before, I'm starting to like the title, and it's like Alf said, if we liked it when it was Stranger, why won't we like it as Strangers Wrath?

hehe, as if people did judge the game by the title.... nice reminder though, just in case one was to do such a thing.

here is a better version of the logo:

In the new Gamestop preview, they said this:

Sounds like a good explanation to me... And I shouldn't have judged the game by it's name, it'll still be the same game, right? I'm sorry Alf! :crying: Someone close this Petition Thread, it's not important anymore.

GrigtheSlig

Looks like Alf showed 'em.

If nothing else is to be added, then we can close down this thread.

-oddguy

You seem to get the bigger images :p Like the way made they "W" for oddworld. But I think the best logo OWI did was the old MO logo, with the injections sticking out.

Well I still think the title it isn't best, I mean were talking about the name only, not the game.

Don't see why we should close the thread - probably be better to merge with the other one, as the topic is near-identical.

Thanks, Alf, for reminding everyone that while the title is important for marketing, it's the game that counts well and truely. I'm sure the greatness of Stranger's Wrath will sell the whale-loads of units through fantastic reviews and such.

Personally, I liked it better the way it was. I think the reason they did this was so that if they had sequels it could be Strangers ______. Like Oddysee changes to Exoddus with the sequel.

I would have to disagree because for one Stranger's Wrath makes a whole lot of sense because of the very nature of what he does for a liveing and two like I mentioned before he is a bad ass.

After viewing the Lorne Lanning video earlier today I am actually starting to like the title for personal reasons. There were some cool things I caught up on during my viewing of the Lorne Lanning video after viewing it like 4 times. The whole game itself has to attract non Oddworld fans aswell. I believe a title like Stranger's Wrath will be suitible to deliver that and make a bigger fan base. We will just have to see come late January.

Paramiteabe... :fuzblink:

Sounds good to me.

*merges*

-oddguy

Stranger's Wrath.....Fear the wrath of Stranger!!!!lol I'm just kidding. Although I like the first title better, I still respect OI decision to change it. Besides, I'm sure there's a good reason behind it.

Oh I still believe the previous title was better. But, it appears Oddworld Inhabitants and EA did have valid reasons.

Though some of you should really, really take a look at yourselves. You're becoming to Oddworld what a Fundamentalist is to religion. No one is infalible (except maybe the Pope :p). I'm not going to jump and and down with joy when I see something I don't agree with.

Again, I'll say that as a whole, I like Stranger['s Wrath].

Alcar...

I see what you're saying, Alcar. At the same time though, people don't need to get so worked up over the title...to a game they haven't even played I might add. I mean, that petition thing was just silly.

-oddguy

*not accusing you of going insane over the title, Alcar. Just throwing my comment at the people who did. They know who they are. ;)

As a designer's stand point of view this whole new look to the Stranger's Wrath logo is actually appropriate. The Dragon design is cool but its not appropriate for a western style game. Infact the type styles in the name looks to me like a Victorian style type. Victorian style type used very bold, sarif, old western style designs in their text, which is a sarif font, which is great for creating those old western wanted posters.

All and all the design decision on the logo was a appropriate design choice to make. Besides its the designers who are making the big bucks not us. They are the professionals and they know whats right.

I've learned sometimes, a lot of times as a designer you can't stick with the original idea or design. There will always be a change wether you like it or not its perfectly normal. But as for the word Wrath, there can be better word choices out there. But they had their reasons and we need to respect that.

Paramiteabe... :fuzblink:

But Stranger isn't exactly a Western-style game, it just uses that kind of theme during the opening few levels, and uses that setting to create familiar-sounding situations (e.g. the Clakkerz, the Industrialists and the Natives playing the parts of the New World townsfolk, outlaws and Native Americans). Beyond that there's a whole world of non-Western environments, themes, concepts and sub-texts.

Plus I'm still not sure I agree with “wrath“ describing Stranger. “Wrath“ implies being generally mindlessly vengeful and violent, and then where would be the character depth and personality we know Oddworld to have be? The only other two productions I know of that use the word are The Wrath of Khan and The Wrath of Cortex, and in both instances that's exactly what they're doing - being mind-blowingly vengeful and obsessed with destroying their enemy. I should hope Stranger himself has valid reasons for tackling the Industrialists which explore his persona and true nature. I trust OWI entirely to have created just such a character, which is why the name doesn't appeal to me.

The dragon was a reference to his boat. The bow looks like a dragon head. (if someone could post a picture of it, that would be good)

im making an 3d model of the spear like it is in the movie's...
we will see if it looks like a dragon:)

I didn't double post? Aha it was the fusion of the Threads, so seemed that I double posted, but I didn't.

Why dose the boat have a Dragon head? I don't think oddwrold are bieng very original. It's like it came from the Vykkings.

Actually, I quite like the boat design.

Oh and GYHOOYA Oddish. Its virtually impossible to create something 'original' (as you put it). Also referencing a real-world style can add to the style and plot of a game. In any case, I didn't hear you complaining when Feeco was based on Victorian architecture.

does somebody know if there will be the option to choose movie's to play which you already had played in-game??
Like MO????

I'm hoping it will be a cheat, like Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exoddus. Although the freely available option to view movies in Munch's Oddysee wasn't that bad. I guess we'll have to wait and see, as no one (public) knows.

Alcar...

hmm the "earn" videos was fine, but you couldn't see the ones you didn't earned (bad/good) as you could in the cheat...
so I hope there will be a cheat :p

I think the Feeco design was great, it wasn't very noticble to be earthly, well not for me. The boat look's kinda too obvouse to tell if it's a vykking boat. Oddworld always seemed to hide or cover it up whats from Earth, like the factories and the board room, and trains.

FeeCo is tipically Art Nouveau... I'm not sure that style is well known in America

Oddworld = Odd World = Odd Earth
our Earth, just a bit odder...

I always thought Feeco was Victorian style but then I'm not an architecture student. I'll have to go check my Art of etc book

Basically what matters here is your own experience within planet earth. Feeco looked very familiar to me but not to you. I'm sure there is someone out there who has never heard of the vikings who thinks Stranger's boat is magnificent.

I love Feeco. Recognised it but loved it.

i'm sorry, but i don't understand very well the english. can you said me if stranger will be also for playstation2? thank you very mutch

It wont come out on PS2
it's Xbox only

Wrath doesn't seem like an entirely appropriate word, but if OI are the ones making the changes perhaps we don't know how feral Stranger really is. If they needed another phrase to make it seem like the first in the series perhaps they could've been a little more descriptive. Something like: Oddworld: Stranger's justifiable confusion and intense misplaced aggression in lieu of diplomatic solutions. But perhaps that's just TOO catchy.

I liked the original title better, but it did feel like something was missing. The question is--was that missing thing the wrath?

For crying out loud, they could release it at the same time if they wanted to. I know they could.
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