all this talk about XBOX an PS2 what the hell happen to the PC FANS!! why not release on PC too

That's a good question, Raven. I'm guessing EA only pushed for a PS2 release. Maybe if some company comes along and offers to port to the PC, then EA/OWI would consider it.

I'll agree with some of that. I've lost alot of interest in stranger for a few reasons. One, I don't honestly care that much about games anymore and two the ingame shots I've seen look boring and not what I was expecting. Concerning the slapstick thing, I think a bit of comedy is fine. But let's not go MO on it if you guys know what I mean.

Slapstick is fine. But the reason I was interested in Stranger was because it looked like a darker game. Stranger looks like a badass. He shouldn't be running around with skunks and chipmunks for ammo and a giant vacuum for catching bounties. His character design doesn't match up with it.

As for the graphics, if they'd transferred the sunset/orangey overtone from the cinematics that we've seen into the ingame graphics, it woulda looked a helluva lot better than trying to make everything all colorful (and failing horribly, as the color looks too bland and the lack of dynamic lighting makes me wanna puke).

Like I said, if OWI is supposed to be known for it's great artistic achievements, this definitely isn't one of them.

I simply don't agree with you... but if you LOVE graphic soo much, go play DOOM 3 and his boring and repetitive gameplay...

plus I think the Stranger character design fits the game very good, and the live ammo is funny, not childish

That doesn't exactly solve anything now, does it?

The sunset/orangy lighting we've seen in art does of course look very good, and perhaps they will include this in game. I wouldn't put it past OWI to have a day/night cycle, where the orangy lighting would certainly occur often enough.

Ive never actually been interested in stranger for one second.I dont even think its oddworld..but that doesnt mean ''Hey oddguy youre a twat cos u said that and I hate this game cos of blablablabla'' .

gee HL2 must have be in the record books then..........."The Game that wasn't there" lol

Half Life has become the next Duke Nukem Forever. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not even released next year.

Boy you people are nearsighted. The graphics aren't my only problem with the game. No, I don't think they meet the standards set by other Oddworld games, but so what? It's the basic premise of the game that I don't like. I was hoping for Stranger to be the next Solid Snake, not Mr. Rogers running around saying "Guns are bad, mmkay" and carrying a vacuum to suck up bad guys. It seems more like Mario Sunshine than Oddworld.

Anyways, addressing the original question, it appears that the Xbox version is pretty much done and the extra time actually is for the PS2 port. So EA is likely the ones responsible for holding off the release, just as they're responsible for everything else you people seem to not like. I'd sooner blame OWI for being so desperate for a producer that they'd abandon whatever standards they've come to abide by.

There, I took the liberty of getting rid of all the astounding niceness Eriken and Cyber-Slig have been exchanging. If you two want to continue your little adventure, keep it to PMs.

How can you say that when you don't even have any clue of the storyline yet? True, Stranger could end up being its own Mario Sunshine but OWI have said they wanted to make this game much darker and add alot more plot twists. So far all you've seen is only two aspects of gameplay and your already judging it, there's still pleanty of time before it comes to release and things could change.

I agreee with your vacuum can points, Eriken. I was really surprised to hear it, and it instantly reminded me of that cartoony Xbox game where you get crystals in roder to control time. On it, you suck up enemies with a similar device (I think?).
The vacuum can is the only let-down for me so far, and I will easily overlook it.

I must be an oddworld fanboy as Eriken called me, because I really don't have a problem with the game in any way. From what I've seen, I'm more excited than ever to get my hands on Stranger.

-oddguy

You know, censorship was also used by Joseph Stalin during his communist rule of the Soviet Union. Welcome to totalitarianism, comrad.

Explain to me where I mentioned anything about the story. Please.
I could care less if the game had a better story than Metal Gearl Solid. I play games for gameplay. If I wanted story, I'd go watch a movie. And so far, the gameplay looks childish at best. I only hope they do the hand to hand combat right. It may be the saving grace of the game.
And no, there isn't "pleanty of time" before it's released. The Xbox version is supposedly virtually done, and all remaining time is supposed to be for the conversion to PS2. According to Lorne Lanning, at least.

And it's also used by this forum. Read the rules, pal.

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=10472

Be a good lad and you won't have to be censored. ;)

-oddguy

Read em, don't care. Any list of rules that includes "Do not post anything directed at single members" doesn't instill much confidence in the administration. If it were to be reworded as "Do not post anything offensive directed at single members", then it'd be a touch better. But as it stands, you've just broken rule #8.
Stop addressing my person as a single member or I'll have the big bad super-mods warn you.

The "Do not post anything directed at single members" has a double meaning. Not only is it to stop anything offensive / racist / etc from being targetted at a single member, but is also alludes to idle chit-chat between one or two members. We class that as spam, as the remainder of the community cannot share in the discussion.

Oddguy had every right to respond how he did. Although I'd prefer it to be via Private Messaging, or brought to my attention.

Could we please resume the topic, before it was rudely interupted. Going off-topic in such an "unnatural" way (whereby someone purposely changes / steers a topic into digression) is against the rules. It's called spamming. Further digressing will be punished.

Eriken, if you have any problems with our system of rules, please, by all means feel free to Private Message me your opinions.

Alcar...

It's too bad you seem to have your mind all made-up months before the game is even released. Most people are at least willing to keep an open mind in regards to Stranger.

Nearsighted is right.

Anyways OT yes it's a shame that the Xbox release seems to be held up for the PS2 version..then again it's a darn shame it's even going to PS2 and who knows maybe all the the 'problems' people are having with the game are a result of it being on both platforms...we'll never really know.

Yes but all you've seen of it is Stranger running around a fort. Nowhere near enough reason to criticize and whine about it. Some of the ideas my look corny but wait untill you've seen alittle bit more gameplay before you make your assumptions. As for your complaints on the graphics, well you have no clue what stage of development that gameplay was in nor have you seen the game in motion (clearly anyways). Wait longer before you critique something.

exactly oddsville.At first Halo just looked like....omfg that is shit to me at first but I suddenly really wanted MO and played Halo cos I dint have it...and I thought it was amazing...how do you know stranger wont be the same?

Blinx: The Timesweeper

Just because the Xbox version is largely strung together, it doesn't mean changes can't be made. Large overhauls such as an altercation to gameplay, alright, are unlikely to make it into additional drafts from this point, but saying there is plenty of time until release is accurate. From what Lorne says, it doesn't sound like OWI are getting so largely involved in the conversion to PS2 in any case.

As for the PS2 conversion dragging the release date back, well... possibly. But if the game is so supposedly done and ready for imminent release, then that wouldn't leave any time for advertising. The last few months have slowly drip-fed fans, gamers and industry watchers tiny doses of Stranger - now EA have come and are ready to advertise the game properly. Advertising, I remember, was one of the issues many fans had over the game, worrying there wouldn't be enough of it. But since there's plenty of time to go, suitable levels of advertising can commence.

Microsoft is stupid. Because of their shortsightedness they lose control of an excellent franchise. Whats worse is that the fans are punished because of it. Splinter Cell did a delay and GTA did it. Why can't Stranger? I showed tremendous loyalty to OWI by buying an Xbox and what do I get rewarded with? Delays and multi-platform bullshit!

The Xbox is still the best platform to support Oddworld...
You are moaning because you have to wait a bit longer?
Well during this extra time OWI is going to make the game even better, adding extra details, eggs and perhaps other bonusses.
is Spring 2005 so far away?

Yes, considering that this was said by many to come out in December 04 it is a long bloody time! Any delay is inexscusable. I've already anticipated this with bated breath for YEARS and now I have to wait another half a year for some PS2 fanboy jerkoffs to get on the wagon? Every other coompany releases the game for the first platform, then the secondary one but it seems that Sony really has EA by the nuts because they're too chickenshit to do what every other damn gaming compnay does!

The reason Stranger isn't coming out this winter is because of the Halo2 hype. Just think...if Stranger was to come out in december, it'd be completely overlooked by Halo2 and others. OWI and EA want this game to become popular...releasing it in Spring 2005 is a smart move.

-oddguy

yes, said by everyone but OWI. All they sais was that they were hoping that the game would come out this year but they never made any promises or predictions.

oddguy's probably right about not wanting to be too close to Halo.

like I said...
not only Halo 2, look what's coming: *posts same old list*

GTA : San Andreas (Take Two), Gran Turismo 4 (Sony), Metal Gear Solid 3 (Konami), Doom 3 (Activision), Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games), Metroid Prime 2 (Nintendo), Fable (Microsoft)

At least the first three on that list are guaranteed for PS2 :), the reason we're moaning is becuase not all of us can go and buy an X-Box and naturally you'd think they'd release the game on all platforms at the same time.

At first I was sort of upset with the decision to release the games at the same time. If a game will get on the system, who cares if it has to wait another few months? Xbox has had to wait for a number of quality games to come over to its console, and each time its been worth it. If its just to keep Sony happy, I say they can piss off.

On the other hand, not wanting to coincide with other games to ensure popularity (while silly) I can empathise with. I'm not upset about them releasing on the PS2 as well, but if the game is done, why not just release it?

Well obviously, but why should the people who HAVE Xbox's be punished? Why should we have to wait? Oh and I had to run out and buy a PSOne to play the first Oddworld games.

Why exactly would we think they'd release the game on all platforms at the same time? I would think that if it's ready for one platform...it should be released on that platform first. As Volsung pointed out...we've had to wait for numerous titles to make it's way over to Xbox. Now, since the announcement of the PS2 version....Xbox owners have to wait for it??? WAY unfair.

Looks like we'll all be waiting either way cause in the end it is not our decision. Just think of the things OWI can be doing to make the Xbox version better while we wait.

Edit- I just closely examined the scene where Stranger..sifts (I guess thats the word?) the rim oh his hat. In the background you can see a character walking off into another room. Now to me I see a Vykker, not a Clakker but I could be wrong.

I assumed it was a clakker because something with feathers stamped Stranger's bounty poster...then it cuts to Stranger taking his money.

-oddguy

I'm pretty sure it's a clakker, you can just see the last feathers go around the corner when the view is clearest.