'but wouldn't that result in a massive upheaval of come-up-unce?'
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Whatever that monkey, Bush, decides seems to be justified within 10 seconds after it's comitted. I do think America should resort to isolationism, think of the benefits. But I think we would give off the "we don't care" vibe to those countries who jump straight to conclusions, and that would just spark more mayhem among the offices and Bush would end up making another stupid decision. I hope to god his ass drops out of office and we get a new guy in there, a blind squid could run America better than him. There was some rumour that either Bush's or Kerry's wife would take over if the candidates became "illegible". Of course this will never become a reality, they'll never elect blacks, jews, women, etc. even though some of them would make great presidents (take Martin Luther King Jr. for example). Sad times are these.
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I saw Clinton on 60 minutes last night. He's cool...I just like the guy. Sure, he had his personal problems, but that didn't interfere with his job at the white house. I think Clinton would've handled 9/11 a lot better and wouldn't have pissed off so many other countries like Bush has.
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"Oh, well I don't like the way things go in Iraq so lets just bomb the enitre thing and start over..." Freakin low... realy... |
'Freakin low... realy...'
No, sensible. When i take over the world, the first thing i will do is make sure that the lowers cannot have children. I will, also, ban disabled people from having children and move all Religious people [of every kind that spreads some sort of intolerance] to a remote place in the corner of the world. Then i would wipe out certain civilisations. Getting rid of Iraqi people because of their utter pointlessness. Followed by Ethiopia, because we don't need a bunch of people walking around making Supermodels looking fat. Followed then by Zimbabwe, because of the turmoils there. And then followed by all the other countries that are either totally f*cked over, poor/deprived and "eww". Then, i would turn these vast landscapes of barroness into nice places. Like, building fountains or artificial hills or something. Have pretty grass landscapes and have people being happy. See, is this ideal so bad? No, no it's not. What would you rather have - a bunch of useless carpet/beard makers who [some, anyway] are so uncivilised that they have to repress women. Or, pretty landscapes with gorgeous scenery and nice swimming water. Whee!! |
Basically here's my "two cents" on PA's repeated "obsessional" behaviour about the totally unjustified war in Iraq...
*ahem* Hobo... I totally agree with you as in any war it is tit for tat... (I don't mean like the episode from Friends!) Its attack, counter attack retaliation... that is war! Two wrongs don't make a right and there have been losses on both sides. I think PA's very one sided, jingoistic, xenophobic, pro-USA, blind to reason, brain washed, below average intelligence (check his grammar, punctuation and spelling... sorry PA but thats my evidence for that statement!) view on the whole episode isn't his fault... nor is he alone in that view... in fact I'd go as far to say that it is probably your average Americans view point.. that alone is a worry! Yes... beheading a hostage kinda must go against the Geneava convention and the international combat law but terrorism in general does! If demands aren't met what are they gonna do? Give the guy a pat on the bum, a packed lunch and send him on his way... no! Look at the footage of the poor North Korean bloke... he's the first hostage I've seen who 's actually s**tting himself... why? Because he knows his country won't negotiate and he's already dead!!!!! Aaaaah! Its all f**ked up... but if Bush wasn't desperate on retaliation and pinning the blame for Sept 11th on some one any one to "restoriate the American people's pride and hopefuliation in me" then none of this would have happened... I actually don't think us Brits would have reacted like the Yanks... I think it wasn't so much the loss of life but the "Terrorism? Whats that? How dare they!... Mommy I'm scared" of it all... we've suffered as a nation from repeated IRA bombings and, if you remember, the Libian Lockerby disaster... I'm not saying we wouldn't react but I think we wouldn't have gone all out to retaliate with such verosity. Its an unjust war declared by an unstable man followed blindly by a man who owes America big time for the last real and just war... WW2! |
You can't use lousy spelling and grammar on the 'net to say someone is dumb. Seriously, its all about banging out your message quickly. I see the beheadings as a real turning point in AQ's and other terrorist network's strategy. Indiscriminate bombing tends to piss off the very people you want to get on your side and is lacking flavor. Seriously, car bombings don't mean crap any more. BUT kidnap someone and put a very personal, very real image of destruction and fear in someone's head and they take notice. That, my friends, is why a beheading is front page and a car bombing 18B.
Edit: American soldiers have committed numerous atrocities during this war, are you so surprised that terrorists are willing to commit them if it causes people to take heed? Mark my words: There will be more kidnappings and murdering unless we do two things. Negotiate with the terrorists and get the hell out of Iraq. |
This is on a different note, so I believe it bears a second post.
You cannot have a war on terrorism simply because it is an ABSTRACT VERB. Terrorism is here to stay because it is quick, easy, and more often than not gets you what you want. I see this war on terror as simply a pretense for Bush and his cronies to get even more unlimited powers and rights. Face it, the war on terrorism is nothing more than a power grab. Look what is has led to: Breaking of international laws, fighting wars without the approval of Congress, the detaining and torturing of people (whom 90 percent have been deemed innocent of wrongdoings by Human Rights Watch and the Red Cross) without regards to the Constitution and Geneva Conventions, the PATRIOT Act in all its vile forms... If you think it will stop there you are dead wrong. |
*points to my post at top of page 2*
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WTF is that if that for stupid reason to whipe out a cevelisatiom?!! Thats the most stupid thing I ever heard! Even PA doesnt make statements THAT stupid. Not everyone needs to meet your to high standarts you know... I would need a ultra supersoninc missile to get to those standarts of yours. Jeez! Well, as you probably are just another stupid little kid. Start your crazyness be going into town and shooting all the Hobo's (no offence Hobo :)). Then start to kill every useless persone in your town... Lets see how far you get. Oh, and ofcourse don't forget yourself as your the most useless, pointless persone there is. :lol: |
'whom 90 percent have been deemed innocent of wrongdoings by Human Rights Watch and the Red Cross'
Yeh, but to be fair the sodding Human Rights people have a tendancy to declare that a Paedophile is safe, even if he has murdered and raped five three year olds. Human Rights is one of the many things that has f*cked up this country, i believe. If it wasn't for them, people would actually still be worried about going to prison. And to emphasise again, Saddam was in breach of his deal with the UN. So, technically, the war was justified. 'Oh, and ofcourse don't forget yourself as your the most useless, pointless persone there is.' But a world ruler is not pointless or useless... 'WTF is that if that for stupid reason to whipe out a cevelisatiom?!! Thats the most stupid thing I ever heard!' No it's not. Those countries are FOUL countries. Having a pretty landscape there instead would be, not only nicer to the enviroment, but make for a nice touristy place. |
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This is the new millenium for god's sake, we're supposed to be advancing and gaining on new horizons, but these friggin war-torn countries are dragging us down with them, right back into the stone age. We should just say, "Hey look, if you guys want to spend the next few decades throwing rocks at each other, fine. If you change your mind and want to reach us, we'll be in space building advanced computers and crap that you wouldn't even know what to do with at this point."
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Ok lets have it your way if it will make you happy. After all I am a right wing conservative as you might have guessed by now. Oh guess what I wear John Kerry is a terrorist tee shirts all the time! Negotiate with the terrorist and tell me how it went after your people are dead. I am nether voteing for Bush or Kerry I am voteing for Ralph Nadar.
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I'm suprised no-one has mentioned that a Korean contractor taken hostage a week or two ago was just beheaded today.
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I guess if you've seen one beheading you've seen 'em all. Whatever. It sucks, but the people who do that crap aren't impressing anyone.
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I meant to bring up the South Korean... must have slipped my mind.
I haven't watched a single beheading video yet, and I'm not about to start. Did they even record the SK killing? I've heard different things... |
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"The prosectution rests your Honour!" I reiterate... what I'm suggesting is that PA may come from a certain sector of society that his inability to conjugate verbs betrays... which links with his ideas and perception of the war in Iraq. I like the guy (some of his political and social viewpoints are a little f**ked) but I think he's a sweetie. I was just making a point PA :kiss: you can beat me with sticks later! |
Where is your sense of cultural diversity?
Why ever should every country want large sky skraper, boring grass fields or space programs? Cultural diversity was one of the greatest features of this planet, unfortunately, it is slowly being erradicated. |
See, Shell Man just said what I was afraid of. He's desensitized to beheadings for Christ's Sake, just think of the deprave new lows terrorists wioll have to sink to to get their message noticed. Car bombings don't do it, brutal beheadings don't do it, so what the hell will?
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Personally i don't really like insulting peoples spellings, since they may be tapped in the head or something...
'Why ever should every country want large sky skraper, boring grass fields or space programs? Cultural diversity was one of the greatest features of this planet, unfortunately, it is slowly being erradicated.' It's all very well saying that, and i wouldn't mind that. But when they're showing you little-black Skeletons running around with flies up their nose...at tea time, it really does extract the urine. I really don't see the point in many countries though. They're only there to make America look good. |
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Everybody voting for Nader is pissing their vote away and essentially sabotaging Nader. I've said it once and I've said it again: Nader is a great activist and a ****-up politician. Why won't he listen to our petitions and pleas and leave us alone!?!?!?
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I rather think there here to piss on America rather then to make it look good. In ten years we will have a new WW. America VS rest of the world. :lol: That should be fun to watch :D. |