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Shell Man 06-16-2004 11:17 AM

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Here's something for Bible readers to answer: If God created a man first, then a woman afterwards, why do men have nipples?

Jacob 06-16-2004 11:43 AM

I'm actually s'pposed to be Agnostic. But through sheer habit i tend to talk to both "God" and "Lucifer" in my head. It's probably because i can't stand being alone...but still. I also make deals with them, yeh, 'cos i rock.

Anyway, my range of beliefs vary dramatically. Which means technically i can't be Agnostic...but i am...

nads 06-16-2004 12:05 PM

The voices in my head tell me that if god were real, I could give my brother a swift jab to the balls and get away with it.

Nate 06-16-2004 01:38 PM

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The main point is that the Religions of the book are bound and determined to kill or convert all opposed. And that ain't cool.

It seems that I wrote a long post and, as usual, noone has bothered to read it.

so a quick precis here:
Fundamentalists: BAD.
Religion in general: not necessarily bad.
Anyone who says you have to join their religion or you are evil: BAD
Anyone who says you have to join their atheism or you are evil:BAD

My point is that what people have been writing in this thread is just as bad as what Osama bin Laden is saying. Take the sentence "You must be a Muslim or else" and replace the word 'Muslim' with 'Atheist'


BTW Jacob, Lillith is a myth created in the last 1000 years. It has no historical religious basis. read this: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mlilith.html

Jacob 06-16-2004 02:45 PM

'Lillith is a myth'

Yes, that's why she goes hand in hand with Bibical stories...

nads 06-16-2004 02:58 PM

Oh snap!


I think... :fuzconf:

Facsimile 06-16-2004 08:36 PM

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i tend to talk to both "God" and "Lucifer" in my head. It's probably because i can't stand being alone...but still. I also make deals with them

What, like telling them both to meet you in the park at 4:00pm and then you hiding in the bushes when they meet each other and them realising they have to sort out their differences by talking it over, and them sorting it out and deciding to destroy the human race as all we are are pawns in their little game?
Is that how it is?

oddguy 06-16-2004 08:49 PM

I think I've outgrown these religion arguments. Usualy I see something that makes me soo mad that I'll make a lenghty post about how I think something is right.

I don't know what it is, but I don't really care anymore.

Lalala

-oddguy :cool:

EDIT:
Holy Crap, Dark Hood! I've been skimming this topic and I just read the thing about that religious guy telling your Mum that your Dad was going to hell. What an idiot. I hate people like that.

Facsimile 06-16-2004 09:11 PM

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I think I've outgrown these religion arguments. Usualy I see something that makes me soo mad that I'll make a lenghty post about how I think something is right.

I don't know what it is, but I don't really care anymore.

Lalala

Stop being such a baby. Why do you keep coming in here if you don't care?

oddguy 06-16-2004 09:15 PM

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Stop being such a baby. Why do you keep coming in here if you don't care?

I just don't care to participate in the arguing. It's fun to watch though! :D

*gets popcorn*

-oddguy :cool:

Nate 06-16-2004 09:29 PM

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'Lillith is a myth'

Yes, that's why she goes hand in hand with Bibical stories...

Ummm... But at least the Old Testament is a 3500 year old myth which gives it a bit more credibility (if we're comparing)

my point about Lillith is that she has no basis in religion, rather a ghost story made up by (later) humans.

Havoc 06-16-2004 10:07 PM

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Here's something for Bible readers to answer: If God created a man first, then a woman afterwards, why do men have nipples?

LOL... Now THAT is a good one!! :D

Shell Man 06-17-2004 01:15 AM

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It's just that in truth, we all start out female in the womb, then the Y chromosome takes over and makes a boy. So far the theory I've heard is that Adam just didn't have nipples. I figured he probably didn't have a bellybutton either, since he didn't have a mother, thus giving him a bare, Mudokon-like chest and belly.

But hey, it gets even trickier. Lilith was supposed to be Adam's first wife, and she was made from dust, rather than from Adam, so if Adam had nipples, their existance would've been even more useless.

On the subject of religion, I know everybody says it's fine to have faith and all. But might we be heading into a time when religion will be doing more harm than good? Already you can see Bush blatantly tapping his faith into his job, making America the #1 choice of god, god is on our side, god told us to go to war with Iraq, etc. And on the other side you've got people condemning us as infidels and white devils and if you suicide bomb us you get to have a bunch of virgins when you die, which is one of the most idiotic, shallow and materialistic religious beliefs I've ever heard, an affront to the very concept of spirituality. Could religion really be doing more harm than good? Like the man said in Dogma, it's better to have ideas, because it's harder to change beliefs, which rings true to me because change is one of the most important things in the universe.

Esus 06-17-2004 02:06 AM

Of course relgion does more harm than good. it always has done - because it's stopped people thinking and wondering. And it's caused no end of crusades.

Havoc 06-17-2004 03:00 AM

This topic is going to more harm then good... I think Il step out and join Oddguy on the Bench :D.

Jacob 06-17-2004 07:53 AM

Fax, you are a silly Rabbit.

When i make deals i state such things as "Please let me get [enter certain amount here] this month!! I promise, i'll never ask for anything more this month!! One of you has to, God? Lucifer? Come on. You know you want to." and when i get a certain amount [usually what i wanted] i thank both of them.

'Ummm... But at least the Old Testament is a 3500 year old myth which gives it a bit more credibility'

How do you know?

'rather a ghost story made up by (later) humans.'

Much like God. But this time by 'later' i mean the people after Neandethals...

It has to be said, however, Religion does help create amazing films/games/stories. Well, the Christian Religion does...others don't...because their Religions are hethen Religions...damn Paki's.

Whoo!! Racist words are fun!!

oddguy 06-17-2004 08:07 AM

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This topic is going to more harm then good... I think Il step out and join Oddguy on the Bench :D.

*sits with Havoc on the bench*
*both begin eating popcorn*

-oddguy :cool:

Hobo 06-17-2004 08:13 AM

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*sits with Havoc on the bench*
*both begin eating popcorn*

-oddguy :cool:

Shut yo' spam dude.

Um. *ontopic*

I don't belive that any religion is true. Religion is make believe, Death is the end. Get over it.

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