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ClaireBear 06-01-2004 12:17 AM

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She's starting to sound a bit like Death, in his worst times...

Serious, if you don't like our policy, shut your yap, or leave.
Or go find another forum to spam, and only post useful messages here.

It's gettin' really annoying, y'know...

Is it more annoying than people NOT being able to retaliate without bringing it all down to "You're starting to annoy me... blah-de-blah"

Well Pet, that kind of response annoys me more...

Please post only sensible, directly related responses to my more than valid points.... if you actually read the content of my posts... you would see that I agree with alot of what's been said in connection with spam... what I don't like is people not projecting valid reasons for their behaviour... I simply required clarification on Alcar's idea of spam and a little more than "Don't spam because the rules say so."

I don't agree with the blind following of rules because they are just there... rules are there to be challenged... If you have a problem with that then I sorry but there's nothing I can do about that other than offering you a chill pill!

Alcar 06-01-2004 02:56 AM

While the rules are up for debate, we don't encourage it. The rules are what have worked for quite a number of years, and I don't expect them to change anytime soon.

The fact we give the members a right to voice their opinions (on administrative matters, other than bans) is much more than some forums do.

Alcar...

ClaireBear 06-01-2004 03:08 AM

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While the rules are up for debate, we don't encourage it.

Really?... no! Would never have guessed! :rolleyes:

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The rules are what have worked for quite a number of years, and I don't expect them to change anytime soon.
I don't expect them to change... not again anyway! I already got an appropriate abreviation up and running to cut the rambling cwap that they were!

In theory your rules work fine... sadly this ain't a theoretical forum... real people with real ideas and beliefs!

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The fact we give the members a right to voice their opinions is much more than some forums do.
You think huh!? Goodness Peter... where alse have you posted in the past? "ConentrationCampCentral"? "Don'tEvenThinkAboutThinking.com?" "www.No breathing or farting annonymous!?"

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Alcar 06-01-2004 03:14 AM

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You think huh!? Goodness Peter... where alse have you posted in the past? "ConentrationCampCentral"? "Don'tEvenThinkAboutThinking.com?" "www.No breathing or farting annonymous!?"

I know of forums where what the Administrator says, goes. There is certiainly no dispute at those forums. Because if you don't agree, you leave, or are forced to leave.

Alcar...

ClaireBear 06-01-2004 03:18 AM

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I know of forums where what the Administrator says, goes. There is certiainly no dispute at those forums. Because if you don't agree, you leave, or are forced to leave.

Alcar...

I have never claimed not to agree with the rules... I just prefer greater reasons other than "because the rules say so" to live my life by!

Like, with the spamming... only Teal gave me a valid reason why it should be monitored... wading through it can be annoying! I agree! Everyone else just said... "because its in the rules" not valid in my book.. so I delved for depth!

Alcar 06-01-2004 03:58 AM

Because we've explained it so many times to so many people. It's simpler to say, "It's in the rules". Afterall, the rules were created for the reasons we would state anyway.

Your attitude towards rules is quite childish. Rules are everywhere, and you can challenge them if you want. But I doubt you'll get any government to change their rules because some citizen causes a stir. Sad, but true. Having the general populace against you can be a very depressing.

Alcar...

ClaireBear 06-01-2004 04:51 AM

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Because we've explained it so many times to so many people. It's simpler to say, "It's in the rules". Afterall, the rules were created for the reasons we would state anyway.

Your attitude towards rules is quite childish. Rules are everywhere, and you can challenge them if you want. But I doubt you'll get any government to change their rules because some citizen causes a stir. Sad, but true. Having the general populace against you can be a very depressing.

Alcar...

My attitude towards rules is actually the same one held by a very prominant educational philosopher from a very very very prominant British university... I'd hardly call it childish!

Testing boundaries and rules is how we develop our own morality, through prioratisation we rationalise our beliefs! Its a well known phenominon.... if we didn't test and rationalise we'd all treat a "no spamming" rule on a forum with the same degree of integrity as "thou shalt not kill!"

Maybe not a citizen.... but citizens making a stand will make cause for concern... pro-active demonstrations and rallies really can make a difference! Its how a democracy works Peter!

DeBulletDodger 06-01-2004 04:51 AM

Your best bet is to just close this thread she isnt going to listen is she.

ClaireBear 06-01-2004 04:53 AM

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Your best bet is to just close this thread she isnt going to listen is she.

Listen to what!?!

Alcar hasn't said anything yet!!!!!

We are however, having a very mature and enlightening exchange of views... if you feel threatened by that I apologise but really... its fine!

DeBulletDodger 06-01-2004 04:55 AM

Im all up for exchanging views it can enlighten people on subjects but i agree with alcar here.

ClaireBear 06-01-2004 04:59 AM

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Im all up for exchanging views it can enlighten people on subjects but i agree with alcar here.

Okay! Then enlighten me fellow NorthEasterner!

What are your views in connection with spam?

DeBulletDodger 06-01-2004 05:03 AM

I see that it is a problem and there is no point in taking this into a philosophical debate about spam for gods sake.

ClaireBear 06-01-2004 05:07 AM

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I see that it is a problem and there is no point in taking this into a philosophical debate about spam for gods sake.

Profound!

Deep!

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oddguy 06-01-2004 09:33 AM

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Like, with the spamming... only Teal gave me a valid reason why it should be monitored... wading through it can be annoying! I agree! Everyone else just said... "because its in the rules" not valid in my book.. so I delved for depth!

I explained what Spam was. Remember?
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Now...rules are good. If we didn't have rules, think of the chaos that would insue! Alcar isn't destroying natural conversation flow. Some topics flow a bit off-course, but if it's better exploring a subject, then cool. But if it turns into a dual topic, or an argument, a mod will step in and tell the kids to get back on topic. No big deal. I mean, if you want to continue a conversation that's off subject, PMing is a great tool. That's why it's there.

Okay, right there you get two clues.


Also, I told you before that spam was "poinless drivel," then I later showed you a quote to back my statement up.

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...1&postcount=31

Okay, so now we know spam is three things thus far.

1. dual topic

2. argument

3. pointless drivel or offensive crude material

Also, one on one conversation in a public thread is somewhat considered spam, because one on one conversations are meant for PM.

Now we have four things.

1. dual topic

2. argument

3. pointless drivel or offensive crude material

4. One on one conversation in public thread

From here I think you can get the idea of what spam is.

Better?

-oddguy

Facsimile 06-01-2004 08:11 PM

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Your worst frickin nightmare Sweets! Wha-ha-ha-ha-ha! :D

1. :rolleyes:
2. Please do not call me 'Sweets'. And while I'm at it: 'dear', 'pet' or any other crap like this I also do not wish you to call me.

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Fascimile

*Eyes flicker for a second*
3. *Very calmly* Spell my name right.

Alcar 06-01-2004 08:42 PM

This isn't going anywhere. The definition of spam has been explained to you on numerous occasions, convieniently in this thread. I've said and done what has needed to be said and done, therefore I'm closing this thread.

Alcar...