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Sekto Springs 01-18-2004 06:02 PM

I agree with Raisin, noway thats a searex, maybe a land dwelling creature of the same race, but not an actual searex, a landrex possibly? Anyway i noticed that it has large sharp teeth which brought me to the conclusion that it was carniverous, but it appears the paramites/scrabs had eaten it, this surprises. Surely a carniverous creature of that size could fight off a pack of paramites or scrabs. But we will have to wait of course hopefully they will be revealed.

oh, and please locate that video somebody, i'd do anything to see it.

Wil 01-19-2004 06:10 AM

I say we turn to the Alfster for more speculative evidence.

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Q: Hey Alf, I was just wondering in Munch's Oddysee there is a huge skeleton bone in the Paramite Run stage, I was just wondering if you could clear that one up... There is no creature in Oddworld that big that I have seen yet... Is that Searex I have heard a little about ..

Alf: You are correct. It is a creature that you have not seen yet.


Reading it, it looks like Alf is confirming only that it is a creature we have not seen; however, that's not to say it isn't a Sea Rex.

A good observation, Raisin. In a past thread, someone theorised that the Sea Rex could have been hauled there by the Glukkons to keep the Scrabs and Paramite sustained, but we have been told many times that Sea Rexes are left alone by all. However, there's nothing to say the lake's drying up wasn't accelerated by artificial means, a la the Reservoir Row level, leaving the young Sea Rex stranded. There's also nothing to indicate Sea Rexes can't survive a reasonable time on land without suffocating.

EDIT: You beat me to it, sligster. If the creature were like a Sea Rex but land dwelling, that would make a more significant difference than simply being different races - different species or genera, possibly. But I get what you mean. However, two interesting notes:

1) If the creature was subdued, maybe it couldn't fight back - ie it was aquatic and stranded.

2) The skeleton doesn't have any feet. I know for Oddworld that doesn't mean much, but one would suspect and land creature to have something solid to support its weight.

Sekto Springs 01-19-2004 06:35 AM

after reading your input Max i must agree with you. But i stil stand firm that it's not an actual searex, let's think about the word Sea-Rex.

Sea- a large body of water smaller than an ocean is what I'd wager, and salt water. But i guess that part may not matter on OW

Rex- latin name for king, and given name to a male

I personally didn't think that the paramite or scrab run areas were large enough or deep enough to house a searex, or to be a sea for that matter. And in the searex picture, it seems that they give off some sort of self-alumination leading me to think they live in very deep, dark waters and need light and those run areas are not deep enough without a doubt. But like I said, it could be a smaller Rex like maybe a lakerex, or like i said, a landrex. I mean, who said there's only one rex?

Wil 01-19-2004 06:44 AM

If I weren't you, I wouldn't break down the names of creatures. White rhinos aren't white, and jellyfish aren't fish. :p

But you're right, for a Sea Rex to get there, the lake would have to be a fair way above the surface of the highest of those teirs - which frankly does seem unlikely, as the entire plateau would then need to be flooded, which would cover a vast area of Mudos in water.

But then again, in MO we have native vending machines and floating metal islands.

Sekto Springs 01-19-2004 07:04 AM

yes, sorry about the breaking down the names thing, i was really just looking for an excuse to use my new dictionary, but still i learned something new :p

Anyway i had a thought, the resevoir row area seems very large, surely large enough to house atleast a few searexes, I mean before the resevoirs were placed in the place could have been plenty deep enough for a searex. Eventually, the glukkon bastiches moved in and drained the water, the searexes were forced to move or die in conditions that are unadaptable, a few survivors may have escaped through tunnels, and smaller bodies of water that lead away from the mouth of the resevoired area. a few stragglers most likely lost their way and ende up in the future run areas. The run areas were probly much more shallow and they died of unadaptable conditions before the water disappeared and the paramites/scrabs ate the remains. But that's just one of my small thoughts that i expanded to sound smart :p

Wil 01-19-2004 07:22 AM

Great theory, SS - finally something that links two levels in MO. :p Someone once did claim to have seen a Sea Rex under the water in the Reservoir Row level, but nobody's ever been able to confirm that.

Sekto Springs 01-19-2004 07:27 AM

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Great theory, SS - finally something that links two levels in MO. :p Someone once did claim to have seen a Sea Rex under the water in the Reservoir Row level, but nobody's ever been able to confirm that.

I doubt that. Remember that the water was way too shallow for a searex, even though the water got deeper as you progessed i doubt a searex conjured up out of nowhere when the water was deep enough. :p

Fez 01-19-2004 07:37 AM

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P.S. Sweet Liopleurodon pics, Ferill. Did you get them from the Science Channel?

nope, just typed Lipleurodon in a Google image search.

who says it has to be Searex blood? you know what Scrabs and Paramites are like, they probably killed eachother over it as it is probably a good mating place?

Sekto Springs 01-19-2004 01:50 PM

http://www.dynamicearth.co.uk/dinosa...card31_big.jpg

this isn't a Lipleurodon, it is a Ophthalmasaurus

edit: i added attachments of some more pictures you can compare with a searex, including an assortment of heads, i will draw a quick sketch of a searex based on the dinosaur pics and searex pic

Fez 01-22-2004 08:07 AM

no mate, it is a lipleurodon. Opthalmasaurus is the smaller dolphin like fish swimming away.

paramiteabe 01-26-2004 03:48 AM

I am turning away from the Sea Rex theory because it was made a year ago from today. So in light of that I am turning to the notion that the creature could very well be a Meetle or a Mug. Because one Meetles and Mugs are that size and two they are land based creatures. The dried up river bed could be ancient and could not even be a dried up river bed.

We don't know. But the creature has legs much like a Meetle's legs. Almost insect like.

Fez 01-26-2004 08:42 AM

insects have an exo-sekeleton, meaning they dont have any bones inside them. So there is no way that could be a Meetle/Mug, even on Oddworld.

Wil 01-27-2004 06:26 AM

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insects have an exo-sekeleton, meaning they dont have any bones inside them. So there is no way that could be a Meetle/Mug, even on Oddworld.

Pay attention to the opening sequence of MO - the Meetle-like creature clearly has a skeleton. Words like insect don't in fact mean much, taxonomically speaking, on Oddworld.

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But the creature has legs much like a Meetle's legs. Almost insect like.

That immediately got my attention. Here, are you refering to the skeletons in MO? If so, you're wrong. If not, the structure of the skeletons still means they cannot be Meetles or Mugs. Meetles have eight squat legs that come from the base of their bodies. The skeleton only has two limbs, and they join only the body further up the side. What's more, they have a very obvious joint that is not at all like a Meetle's leg.

To further suport the Sea Rex (or similar) theory, there is a neck and head extending from the skeleton which perfectly matches the head and neck of a Sea Rex.

Fez 01-28-2004 08:41 AM

i've been told...

paramiteabe 01-29-2004 06:02 AM

Yeah but the creature in Munch does have legs. Next time you play Munch go up to the creature and look real closely at it. You will see legs. Its not a Sea Rex because a Sea Rex is a long creature. This creature is obviously not long like a snake. Its big yes but its not long. And the Sea Rex is long as I was told by Alf a year ago. The Sea Rex can also coil up and that is the reason nobody knows the true size of the creature. So with that in mine the Creature in Munch does not match the description I recieved from Alf himself on the Sea Rex thus makeing it not a Sea Rex. Now I will post the answer Alf gave me if you like but its been over a year now so I doubt I will be able to find it. That creature is not a Sea Rex its something else and it is something we never heard of I bet.

Wil 01-29-2004 09:43 AM

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Yeah but the creature in Munch does have legs. Next time you play Munch go up to the creature and look real closely at it.

I did, and I explained exactly what was there in my last post. No legs, my friend, besides those to near the front of the creature.

Regarding what Alf told you, well, I can't argue with that at all, but I know for a fact that publicly Alf hasn't said anything about Sea Rexes coiling up. He did say nobody can judge their size, but put that down to them always undulating through the waters, which in itself says nothing about the length of the creatures.

ANN NEELY 01-29-2004 03:13 PM

I thought the skull on the creature in Brewery To Be and Paramite Run looked like a Scrab's skull. Somehow, It made me think that it was a giant Scrab....Not saying' this is true, just sayin' what I thought... ^_-

-Lm Fan

Fez 01-30-2004 07:15 AM

another type of Guardian creature?

Esus 01-30-2004 10:02 AM

It's possible for it to be something completely different. its even possible thats its just a random skeleton of nothing in particular, but I'm siding towards the Sea Rex theory.

Joe the Glukkon 02-11-2004 10:17 AM

I've come across this before and have been wondering from that day I saw it.I predict it's a Gaurdian Mammoth,but the skull on the dead thing didn't look similair to the Gaurdian Mammoth's.I'm sure we'll soon know what it is later on in Oddworld.

Xavier 02-12-2004 08:36 AM

the picutre you posted isn't a Gaurdian Mammoth, it's simply called a Guardian, I wonder why Hayley called it Gaurdian Mammoth on her site

anyway, it isn't because it's big that it's that... we have ne proofs

Joe the Glukkon 02-12-2004 09:29 AM

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the picutre you posted isn't a Gaurdian Mammoth, it's simply called a Guardian, I wonder why Hayley called it Gaurdian Mammoth on her site

Well she made a mistake.I wonder how she came up with that name,but Gaurdian Mammoth is a batter name than Gaurdian.Gaurdian Mammoth macthes what it looks like.

Xavier 02-12-2004 09:33 AM

but Guardian is from official source... which is far better...

Joe the Glukkon 02-12-2004 09:37 AM

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but Guardian is from official source... which is far better...

I agree.But I'm just saying that Gaurdian Mammoth matches what it looks like.;)

Fez 02-12-2004 11:21 PM

can the gurdian move? or is it like some sort of plant?

Xavier 02-13-2004 09:00 AM

he's death now... so he isn't moving much anymore.
but I guess he was moving when he was alive, but it's more a creature with mytic powers

Fez 02-13-2004 09:18 AM

cheers Xav,

i think we should just leave it as an "unidentified land predator"

end of story.

Xavier 02-13-2004 09:22 AM

hmmm, he's not realy the predator type...
more like a big vegetarian pacifist that protect the natives against evil forces

Joe the Glukkon 02-13-2004 09:43 AM

Yeah, like a herbivore.

Fez 02-13-2004 10:08 AM

but the big teeth! the big sharp teeth!